Better Call Saul S5 Episode 4 | Full Length Reaction!
Added 2024-09-03 23:35:56 +0000 UTCHI EVERYONE after a very long wait, here’s the next episode of Better Call Saul! I sincerely apologize for how long it took, there were issues with this specific upload for some reason... but here we are!! Thank you so much for being patient!
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I honestly think that Howard, after having his therapy, feels he wants to right some wrongs, and gives out an olive branch to Jimmy. However I can see where Jimmy is coming from. Howard through Chuck was always in his way at HHM, and going back there is a regressive step and would open a can of worms he has no intention of looking at. Howard, Chuck, Schweikart and Davis & Main, represent big law - the establishment - and he feels a lot of them kick down the little guy (and we get a glimpse of that through Kim's case with Mesa Verde here), like him, and he feels very vindictive about it - which is part of why he uses the law like some sort of plaything. So he'll cause as much chaos as possible, like in the court scene to get his client off, even if its a shitty way to go about it, because he doesn't treat the law with any respect - like Chuck warned. So he lashes out towards them, and Howard.
Saltire
2024-12-27 04:03:02 +0000 UTCThe old man in question took out 3 of the 5 guys without a weapon, I'd feel like I'd need a knife too if I was them lmao
Ace
2024-12-07 20:36:37 +0000 UTCI feel like there wasn't anything wrong with the fryer to begin with, but he was just taking out his frustrations on Lyle to feel like he could be in control. It really bothered me when Gus didn't specify what was wrong, and just used Lyle's loyalty...
Juuli Eskelinen
2024-09-05 20:50:31 +0000 UTCYeesssss
Juuli Eskelinen
2024-09-05 20:41:56 +0000 UTCI hope E5 drops like... tomorrow
Juuli Eskelinen
2024-09-05 20:37:25 +0000 UTCThat first scene with Jimmy and Kim and the broken glass tells us so much about these two characters. Kim sometimes messes up and makes bad decisions but afterwards she feels guilty and cleans it up. But for Jimmy, all his mess-ups are usually someone else's responsibility, "that's what you pay rent for". Insofar that Jimmy is willing to take responsibility, it's always just to rectify a relationship that he's broken or to benefit him in some other way.
Christophe
2024-09-04 18:27:21 +0000 UTCHHM was circling the drain because Howard was so racked with guilt that he couldn't focus on the business. Jimmy set a fire under him and he's turned over a new leaf, cleansing himself of the guilt Jimmy tried to dump on him for Chuck's death and regrowing the company. I don't think the messaging of this episode is in any way suggesting that Howard's morals are changed and he's on board with Jimmy's Saulness. I think it's saying that Howard has dealt with his demons whereas Jimmy hasn't, and he hates him for it.
Max Hassam
2024-09-04 11:23:27 +0000 UTCBrotha i have waited so long for a crumb of saul
Rey
2024-09-04 06:46:53 +0000 UTCI think Jimmy's attitude toward Howard can kind of be summed up by what he said to the young woman who was turned down for the scholarship — he resents how he's been treated by successful & powerful people, like Chuck & Howard, and he wants to prove them wrong by beating them on his own terms. I think in some ways he considers himself better than people like Howard, he sees himself as smarter, and he doesn't want people looking down on him. The offer from Howard was good natured, but I think on some level Jimmy saw it as insulting.
Daniel Cowan
2024-09-04 05:32:01 +0000 UTCI was just thinking about that bait and switch scene in the courtroom with the defendant the other day and was wondering "what episode was that in again?" and there it was in this one! That's one of those scenes that I always wished we got to see more of out of the "Saul" persona.
WarriorPoet1980
2024-09-04 05:23:51 +0000 UTCForgot to mention another bit from the Howard & Jimmy scene... The part where Jimmy says "Saul Goodman is my professional name, but my friends still call me Jimmy. You can too" can be taken 2 ways... Either you're my friend so you can call me Jimmy OR you're not my friend but i'll still let you call me Jimmy... Judging by the bowling balls to his car, I reckon it may have actually been the latter. Not quite the aww moment it got 😂
Max Hassam
2024-09-04 02:25:06 +0000 UTCI think Howard admires Jimmy's work ethic. Howard was someone whose father was a top lawyer and so his path was made very comfy. He knows that Jimmy could've used Chuck the same way Howard did with Chuck and his father, but he did it entirely himself, in secret. The nickname "Charlie Hustle" that he has for Jimmy is an interesting one. The nickname comes from a nickname for a former Baseball player who got it by putting in extra effort in a game. But the man was also banned for gambling and later charged with tax evasion, so I think Howard was acknowledging his tenacious but rule-bending ways with that nickname.
Max Hassam
2024-09-04 02:23:26 +0000 UTC100% disagree. Last time Jimmy talked to Howard, HHM was circling the drain. They were downsizing and Howard was in a moral crisis. Jimmy told him to the take the initiative and figure out a way to win. The implication is clearly that Howard has changed his moral framework and with this meeting, and inviting him to join HHM clearly demonstrates that his new framework aligns with Sauls a lot more than HHM's ever has
Dale Diaz
2024-09-04 02:21:48 +0000 UTCI agree. I don't think he realises at all what sort of anger and regret Jimmy's dealing with. Howard of course doesn't know about the insurance thing Jimmy did. He doesn't know Chuck's final words to him. So to Jimmy, even Howard's face triggers that past and those memories.
Max Hassam
2024-09-04 02:09:08 +0000 UTCYeah some have suggested that he was trying to establish an alibi for the evening, but I don't think he's worried about that at this stage. My personal take is that deep down he's a bad, cruel guy and when he's under stress and things are going against him, that true side to him shines through. When we meet him in Breaking Bad we think it's the nice professional man that's the true Gus, but really that's all performative for his cover. Not sure if you've ever had a deep delve into the possible lore of Gus but the timelines work out such that he would've fled Chile for Mexico around the time of the end of General Pinochet's rule, and Hector refers to him as "Grande Generalissimo" in BB 3x7, suggesting Gus may have been a military general in Pinochet's fascist regime. He's a bad bad guy.
Max Hassam
2024-09-04 02:05:55 +0000 UTCI don’t see Howard as having become morally compromised here. I think Howard has rose colored glasses on about Jimmy. It’s basically, “I can fix him.” He knows he did Jimmy wrong and does want to amend that, but he should also know who Jimmy is and that this offer is doomed. Jimmy would never be a team player. Howard would have to fire him just like Cliff did. Howard is blinded, not by greed, but by wanting to correct something with Jimmy that he simply can’t correct. So even when Howard is trying to make amends, Jimmy can tell he’s still not *really* being seen. At it’s least charitable, it would make Jimmy feel like a puppet in Howard’s wellness therapy plan rather than a person in his own right. They say when you make amends, you shouldn’t reach out to people if you’ll cause them pain just by trying to make contact. I don’t think Howard appreciates how much his general presence causes Jimmy a lot of pain and anxiety.
Eric Wall
2024-09-04 02:03:36 +0000 UTCThat's an interesting perspective on how Jimmy views Howard. I think you're perhaps villainising Howard a tad too much, but that certainly could be how Jimmy sees the situation, even if it isn't in actuality
Max Hassam
2024-09-04 01:59:28 +0000 UTCYeah, Howard has been taking the brunt of Jimmy’s anger since before season 1. Back then Jimmy thought it was justified, but there’s a certain amount of resentment that continues even after finding out Chuck was behind it all. There’s also a certain amount resentment that comes with seeing Howard work through his grief while Jimmy never really did. Howard absorbs a lot of Jimmy’s displaced anger simply because Chuck himself is no longer around for Jimmy to be mad at. That being said, I always thought Howard was a little delusional to be offering Jimmy this job now. Jimmy’s right, he should listen to Cliff’s stories. To Jimmy, this Saul angle is *his* way of moving on, and Howard unwittingly pulls him back into those past feelings of inadequacy he’s trying to get away from. Jimmy’s been feeling like a success, but now he’s reminded again of his failure. It doesn’t make how he reacts right, but it explains why that anger is there in the first place and why it’s directed at Howard.
Eric Wall
2024-09-04 01:46:10 +0000 UTCA couple years of you sniffling and I don't even notice now unless you're clearly sick. Always excused V. You got something spot on; stay tuned.
MertzRocks
2024-09-04 01:36:38 +0000 UTC...and Gus overheard Kyle say, "Good work on the fry-pit," to his co-worker. Maybe Gus was looking for an excuse to do *something* control-freaky to waste time until his call came thru. idk...
MertzRocks
2024-09-04 01:34:03 +0000 UTCMuch love Vicky, but yeah you totally missed the point with the Howard and Jimmy stuff. Jimmy resents Howard for having no backbone for years, for happily allowing his brother to get more and more sick because he felt more comfortable pretending like nothing was changing. He sees in Howard the same resentment he had towards his father - a sucker who preferred to see the world how he'd like it to be rather than how it was, at the expense of himself and his loved ones. The thing that set Jimmy over the edge was Howards attitude shift - Howard wants Jimmy now because he's started to see the world for what it is, and he's made the transition to "making things happen" instead of "waiting for things to happen" aka being more like Jimmy. This isn't Howard trying to make amends or trying to do something he should have done before - Jimmy knows that Howard has relinquished his morals enough to the point where he can use Jimmy's tactics and benefit from them. And that's the thing that pisses Jimmy off the most - Jimmy's already done the hard work to become Saul Goodman, he doesn't stand to benefit from working under HHM anymore, especially considering it would mean re-entering his brother's shadow while also being on Howard's leash
Dale Diaz
2024-09-04 01:28:53 +0000 UTCIn a way, Howard's offer was kinda insulting towards Jimmy. Jimmy's now his own boss and on his own path and here comes Howard, after all the damage has already been done, offering Jimmy something he once wanted but no longer needs too late for it to actually mean anything to him. Offering him a position as a cog in his machine. Of course thats how Jimmy see's it. Howard is a corporate lawyer, and in his mind his offer to work as a corporate lawyer at a prestigious law firm is really meaningful and kind, but to Jimmy its an insult to everything he thinks he's grown past. Still, Howard is trying his best, and Jimmy is an absolute petulant child about it. Also theres the fact that Howard worked through his baggage around Chuck in a healthy manner and put in the effort and became a better person while Jimmy had to invent the persona of Saul Goodman as a coping mechanism so that he would literally never have to think about or feel anything about Chuck ever again. Jimmy deep down is still in turmoil over his and Chuck's relationship, he's just buried it so deep that he can't even process his own thoughts about it, so it angers Jimmy to see Howard so openly confront it and actually get over Chuck when he himself can't.
Sam Finbury
2024-09-04 01:24:54 +0000 UTCJimmy's going through some stuff. He's repressing the guilt he has over Chuck and trying to pass it off onto Howard. But now Howard has turned over a new leaf and is feeling positive, and I think Jimmy is jealous of that. Were he still Jimmy I think he'd accept that HHM offer, but not now that he's Saul. And I think he's angry that he's only being given the offer when the ship has sailed for him. His response is certainly immature and cowardly. He's projecting bad-guyness onto Howard. I love how they intersperse the intensity of a police car chase and a guy deep cleaning a fryer 😂 Gus is a control freak, see how he made minute adjustments of the fryer baskets at the end. He detests anything to do with his business happening out of his control. His "it is... acceptable" to Lyle I feel was more a comment on how he generally feels about the situation with losing the money.
Max Hassam
2024-09-04 00:36:15 +0000 UTC
