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3 Women (1977) First Time Watching! Full Movie Reaction!!

3 Women (1977) First Time Watching! Full Movie Reaction!!

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Their Elephant Man and Sling Blade reactions are two of my favorites from TBR. Agreed that I think they do quite well with more cerebral, understated films that you wouldn't initially think would lend themselves well to the reaction genre.

Joel P

And I want to re-emphasize that my earlier comments have nothing to do with deficiency on the part of Sam and Dan. They were fine. What I’m talking about is the nature of certain films and how good a fit they are, generally, for a Reaction type setting. And I’m not necessarily right about it, so comments are welcome. When you get down to it, certain reactions (even if they’re widely perceived as “better” titles for reaction) aren’t going to draw equally. But my perceptions of this one in particular are likely to tailor my own future suggestions. I’m more likely to consider how it might play in the “format” of reaction, as opposed to my singular passion for any given title. But I remain very pleased with this new direction of bringing in more adventurous selections. Some of the success will depend upon us, not just Sam and Dan.

David Wilkins

Well, Paul, you have good taste because both are fantastic. I heard a story once a few years ago about Bud Cort, bless him, that he carries with him at all times business cards that say "Bud Cort --- Movie Star". Whether he was being ironic or not, that's gotta make you smile.

VivendoBem

Honestly, I already thought TBR had a better and more diverse spread of movies covered on the channel than many others even before they introduced the wheel. The wheel is just further reinforcing that by showing they've attracted a cinephile-rich audience.

Tyler Foster

My friend's dad wrote The Player!

Tyler Foster

Very good film and a very good reaction. I hadn't seen this one before but had seen several other Altman films. Definitely one of his more abstract and surreal films- but using Altman's "realism" approach (the background conversations, the almost mundane scenes at times), you don't realize it at first. Yes , there is something odd putting about the characters at first and then the weirdness really ratchets up - but it still has a realism about it that makes it possible. As far as what it means and especially the ending, I don't take a literal interpretation , like the characters are undergoing a psychosis- but more what we are presented is an artistic abstraction, like a surrealistic painting , or a Beckett play. There's not meant to be a conventional explanation on what we're being shown. It's a dream, not a dream by one of the characters necessarily, but like a dream it has a logic and seems probable enough while you're having it, and maybe you can draw conclusions from it, but when you wake up you realize its a dream as a whole and those conclusions make no sense. The genius of Altman's "realism" approach is gain it presents a dream you don't realize is a dream while you're having it. My opinion anyway. BTW, reading Roger Ebert's review , he says that on the DVD commentary Altman says "If you were to ask me where I think Edgar is at the end of the film, I think he's buried under those tires." Definitely commend Dan and Sam for taking on this challenging film - definitely some good insights into it. This is definitely not a film where there is a "right/wrong answer". Please take on more challenging films and more Robert Altman. Not all of his films are this enigmatic- he is a director that likes to work in many different genres. But they do share an Altman "style" - that naturalism , background and overlapping dialog, slow pans and zooms focusing attention the viewers attention on something, focusing on the everyday scenes of life to give it that "Verisimilitude", sometimes films with a light plot (but sometimes not!) In addition to what's been recommended in other comments, I recommend "Cookie's Fortune", "The Gingerbread Man" and "Prêt-à-Porter"

Samolina Pilchard

Speaking of Bud, Harold and Maude was my Schmitthead pick for March. (I went back to my usual Liberty Valance for April, but I really hope they do H&M someday.)

Paul Cox

I agree, I don't think calling "Missing" a forgotten masterpiece is at all inaccurate, but it's certainly a shame it's so little remembered. As far as Brewster goes, I wouldn't go so far as to say I love it, but you only have to watch it once because it's pretty much unforgettable. To think Bud Cort was, for a brief time, a legit Hollywood leading man is like something out of Bizzaro World.

VivendoBem

FYI, the story about how The Shining broke Shelley Duvall is untrue. She herself debunked it in The Hollywood Reporter in 2021 and there are a few people who are in contact with her on Twitter who have continued to remind people of her feelings about it whenever the notion that she was irreparably damaged makes the rounds again. It was an unquestionably tough shoot, and Kubrick was a notoriously demanding director, sometimes doing hundreds of takes of a single scene, which repeatedly forced Duvall to get to and remain at an emotional peak for hours at a time, but she has said that while that was exhausting and not something she would want to go through again, she liked Kubrick, and was happy to have made the movie. (One obvious hint that the story is untrue: she continued to work routinely in movies until 2002, 22 years after The Shining, including being the driving force behind several television programs that are arguably the third most important part of her legacy, behind The Shining and her collaborations with Altman.)

Tyler Foster

I love Brewster McCloud. Missing is a stone-cold masterpiece and most people haven't even heard of it.

Tyler Foster

Agreed. There are plenty of quieter, more contemplative films I love deeply that I think would be pointless to see a reaction to. When I'm weighing what to suggest along those lines, I consider twists or hidden details that may elicit genuine surprise or other emotions. I had worried ahead of time that The Elephant Man or Sling Blade might not really meet those requirements, but I think the Schmitts actually handled those reactions very well and it widened the spectrum of films I'd be willing to recommend.

Paul Cox

This particular film has been an interesting experiment. I’ve been a huge fan of this film specifically, and a decades long follower of Altman’s career. But it occurs to me that some truly great films aren’t necessarily going to be a good match for the Reactor format in general. And it’s food for thought, concerning some of the titles I’ve wanted to put forward in the monthly drawing. In the scheme of things, there’s more to consider than individually felt emotions. Don’t get me wrong, I love the effort, and having this opportunity. All of them aren’t going to translate as imagined in a “less personal” presentation. But I’ll gladly take more obscure titles over endless iterations of “Die Hard”.

David Wilkins

I'm definitely pro-Altman and even I couldn't finish Brewster McCloud lol. Some of his notoriously lousy 80s movies are more engaging than that one. Happy to echo the support for McCabe and Mrs. Miller, though! Everyone should see it at least once.

Paul Cox

Altman’s certainly an acquired taste and “3 Women” was not be the easiest introduction to his style—only "Brewster McCloud" might have been more challenging. Undeniably a giant and one of the father’s of what we think of as “Independent Cinema” as well as being the innovator of overlapping dialogue, but Altman was always a bit hit or miss for me as I found him often more interested in experimenting with the art form than the story he’s telling or its characters. Also, some of his more major films haven’t aged particularly well (cough, M*A*S*H, cough) but when he was able to put everything together he came up with some truly memorable movies. “Nashville”, “The Player”, “Short Cuts” and even “Gosford Park” are wonderful works. But, for me, his “McCabe and Mrs Miller”(1973) is a pantheon achievement and one of my favorite ever westerns, though Warren Beatty (a highly accomplished actor/director in his own right) claims Altman was so high for the production that Beatty himself basically had to direct most of it. Normally, I wouldn’t necessarily lend much credence to claim like that from an actor, but McCabe feels much more like a Beatty film than anything Altman put together before or since. One other note, it’s a real joy to see you guys discovering Sissy Spacek. It’s sort of amazing to me that she’s become somewhat forgotten because of how great she is and how big she was in the 70s-90s. Nominated for six Oscars (winning one for 1980’s “Coal Miner’s Daughter“) she was basically running neck and neck with Meryl Streep for most respected screen actresses for about fifteen years—and, of the two, I’ve always found Sissy to be the more fearless performer. I think she lacked Streep’s commercial sense and so without nearly as many big hits in her filmography, she’s no longer anywhere near as known as Meryl. She elevates everything she’s in but I would hesitate to recommend any other titles for the channel because they’d get so few views, though “Missing” (1982) as well as the already mentioned “Coal Miner’s Daughter” are well worth anybody’s time.

VivendoBem

This is a very interesting first film to see from Altman, since most of his other movies have a more coherent narrative and aren't quite so abstract. The Player, Short Cuts, The Long Goodbye, McCabe and Mrs. Miller and California Split are just a few recommendations I can think of. He had a pretty long career and probably made 30+ films. He was kind of a pioneer when it came to overlapping dialogue in his movies, which is common now but unheard of at the time. The way you can hear Tom and other people making snide remarks under their breath about Millie is a good example of that in this movie. In other movies you'll hear entire conversations overlapping each other as the camera moves through a room full of people. Edit: Oh and he also directed MASH which became the basis for the series. Can't believe I forgot about that one.

Brandon

I'm heartened by the comments on the YouTube post about the 3 Women reaction. While I'm sure it won't do huge numbers, it would be neat if TBRS eventually became known as the "cinephile-curious" reaction channel.

Paul Cox

Altman said that the idea for this movie came when he had a dream that he was making a movie in the desert starring Duvall and Spacek about women switching identities. He developed the plot from there while leaving the finished film up to the viewer's interpretation. Duvall constantly getting her dress caught in her car door was initially a mistake but Altman loved it so much that he had Duvall intentionally do it for the rest of the shooting.

Brad P

I've never Seen this film before, so i'll give it a try.. I recommend "The Long Goodbye" and "Short Cuts" for more Robert Altman !!! Love to watch Films from the 70's, There are still so many Classics from Eastwood, Newman, Dustin Hoffman, Redford, Bronson, Al Pacino, Nicholson ... Maybe you could do some Day a 70' s Poll, because these great Films relatively rarely win Polls

Florian Meier

Watch MASH, The Long Goodbye, and California Split to further your Altman journey while simultaneously furthering your Elliott Gould one. He was old by the time of the Oceans movies, but young Elliott Gould is acting 🔥.

Paul Cox

Sounds like we have a lot of Altman to check out! -Sam

TBR Schmitt

Glad to hear you guys are open to checking out more Robert Altman. There's plenty out there that would be less taxing on your psyche, like MASH or The Long Goodbye or Nashville or Short Cuts. The Player is probably the most commercial film in his repertoire, fwiw.

Paul Cox


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