CM Punk "may have almost decided to not come to Dynamite" last night, more on Hangman promo
Added 2022-08-18 18:56:07 +0000 UTCCM Punk challenged Hangman Page to a rematch on the August 17 episode of AEW Dynamite, but according to Wrestling Observer, it wasn't planned. We were able to confirm this.
Punk defeated Hangman Page at AEW Double or Nothing earlier this year before being forced away from the ring for several months. Before that, however, there was word that Punk and Hangman Page didn't see eye to eye on some promo material that emerged on an episode of Dynamite that built their match. Fightful has been told that it was to the point that CM Punk met with AEW higher ups about the context of Hangman Page's promo. Voices of Wrestling had noted that they'd heard that Punk had told others after the meeting in May, that he wouldn't lose to Hangman Page.
Fightful was told by several within AEW that they felt the situation that unfolded on the August 17 episode of Dynamite was "unfair" to Hangman Page if he wasn't aware of it. One said "even if he was aware of it, what would he have done? Charged to the ring past Tony (Khan)? Interrupted a promo he knew he wasn't supposed to be a part of? There was no way Hangman could have 'won' in that situation." We're told Hangman Page was in the building, but haven't heard that he responded in any particular way. Those that we spoke to said that Hangman isn't a confrontational person and is generally well-liked among the roster.
The belief among several on the roster we spoke to was that Punk believed Hangman went into business for himself leading into their Double or Nothing match, and that Punk may have seen the August 17 promo as a "receipt." It's important to note that was locker room speculation as opposed to Punk telling anyone that directly. From Punk's end of things, there was a Hangman promo had alluded to Punk's issues with Colt Cabana happened and didn't set well with Punk. There was also another promo happened during a week where Punk wasn't at the show that accelerated it. They said that Punk's shot at Hangman happened with Hangman present, and that's how that person close to Punk justified it.
Sources familiar with the situation claim that CM Punk has often verbally expressed his displeasure about things, including recently so blatantly that they thought he might end up quitting the company. Those close to him said that he might have almost decided to stay home instead of coming to the August 17 Dynamite, but don't think he would have quit. We haven't been given any indication that he plans on leaving AEW, but one veteran said they have heard of "threats being levied."
Fightful was also told that the Moxley vs. Punk match for the August 24 episode of AEW Dynamite was a late decision. We haven't been told how late, and when we asked AEW higher ups for context, we didn't gain any. We haven't learned the crux of what led to Punk's current frustrations that would have led to him hypothetically not showing up at Dynamite, whether it be the change in the match, Hangman's jab back in may or otherwise.
EDIT/UPDATE: Any aggregations stating that Punk "threatened to quit" do not reflect our report. Any saying that Punk threatened to not show up because of the months-old issues do not reflect our report -- we don't have that information or know definitively what led to that.
As far as who didn't know the Hangman aspect of the promo was coming, no staff were aware it was happening. We're also told Hangman was supposedly unaware as well.
Edited to include clarity on the promos that were said to have caused the issues.
Comments
Let me frame this issue between Punk and Hangman another way. If Hangman really does have an issue with Punk’s behavior and influence, specifically toward Colt, did Hangman - the real person, Stephen Woltz actually make strides to do or say something about Phil Brooks? Or did Mr Woltz simply wait to turn into Hangman and bring up this real life issue, offscript, cloaked in performance, during a tv broadcast, as a clinky means to drum up heat? Just a perspective fans might want to think about before rushing to judgement. The truth is, we as fans will never see the true, full picture. So why feel the need to rush to judgment?
Chris Kessler
2022-08-21 10:07:04 +0000 UTCWhat would you say the chances are sean that the AEW title unification match is happening next week so punk can drop the title to mox and then leave?It's very out of left field that tony would blow one of his biggest PPV level matches to date on a normal dynamite and not save it for ALL OUT.
Mustang
2022-08-19 10:47:58 +0000 UTC