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The Last Weekend

Good morning! What a fun show we had didn't we? I so enjoyed our chat with Weird Al Pacino (really me and Matt's LONG time friend, Chris Bagnall) and Jay was funny as always... Great having Drew sit in... I missed him and was glad to catch up with him after the show.

By the way, the Al Pacino memoir, Sonny Boy is, in fact INCREDIBLE. I did the audio book while I was traveling, which was one of the best audio books I can recall. It's so natural and funny and touching... His delivery is, as to be expected, from outer space.... and I laughed out loud several times, but was also moved by his personal story and his struggles as well as his commitment to his art.

My final pitch on voting before Tuesday I think is best said by Bernie Sanders in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf5MThSniiY

I encourage you to watch and give serious thought, especially if you are living in one of the so called Swing States and are wrestling with the morality of voting to continue to Biden policies in Gaza. Yes, we're back in a better of two evils scenario, but I'm hoping that Harris' alignment with Biden is merely a cosmetic framing to avoid fracturing the coalitions and she has the potential to shape her own foreign policy should she win.

Anyway, whatever happens the fight will continue - whether it be women's right to choose, LGBTQ rights and protections, moving towards cleaner and greener energy... It's not going to all collapse or magically heal after Tuesday, so whatever happens this community will do what we can to make things around here a better place whenever and wherever possible. right?

Curious is that line of thinking has any impact on any of you?

I look forward to seeing you all on Tuesday night! We'll laugh and cry and bite our nails and much too loudly into the mic.

Peace and Love, T

 

Comments

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creg

Peace and love both of ya. Just think ya’ll are wrong lol

Des L

Hank, The whole ‘history is a repetitive cycle’ bit, is, in my view, outdated. There is strong reasons to believe modern global empire will not self-destruct in the way that capitalist systems of the past have. Weapons of mass destruction, long-range ballistics, global hegemonic order, global trade and commerce, among other things, makes violent revolution virtually impossible. To use your language choices, our consent is being manufactured anyway, but the choices lie in affecting the system as much as possible, or changing it. And I believe that abstaining does not change it, strategic political participation does.

Des L

Journe, Never made an allowance judgement. Do what you want, but pushing the current political center left is the only viable way to even start structural change. My main point is that not voting and/or voting third party does not do anything to disrupt the 2 party system. Never said not liking Trump was my reason for voting Harris. My position is based on a left populism position. The current political systems are too strong and far-reaching to overthrow in a traditional sense, so pushing the political systems in place, left, are the only viable option. I’m for strategic participation. Fantasizing about disruption does not suit my view.

Des L

This is a good piece and helped me decide to vote for Harris rather than 3rd party. I'm absolutely terrified of what trump will do to unions and worker's rights. https://www.joewrote.com/p/im-unconvinced-by-the-leftist-arguments

Melissa

These aren’t my thoughts but they align with my own. Jeff Tweedy’s submission to a McSweeneys series on why to vote for Harris. Tim, you should submit a piece! https://jefftweedy.substack.com/p/for-the-next-little-richard-missy

hagclaims8

Begone, you ROACH

Mattsketball

Who else likes OHL and Trump 🙋🏼‍♂️

SpongeBob Marley

As a person, for sure. As a president, he's pretty incompetent

Journe

Hello, one of the OHL Discord server admins here again (as well as your personal Discord server, Tim). When you ask whether "this community will do what we can to make things around here a better place whenever and wherever possible" has influenced me? This has *greatly* influenced me in how I approach moderating and administrating your Discord servers. That's exactly the kind of energy I'm trying to carry forward within those communities. I've been happy to do that and will continue to be moving forward.

Josh Parsons

I’ll never get to thump Ted Cruz in the nuts, but I early voted against him as soon as I could. Bydaway, have a laugh today at my (aspiring) Berger-style edit on IG https://www.instagram.com/reel/DB6cXt-JSsJ/?igsh=bTd3bHlkaGlsdGo3

Rob Smith

I’m just ready for the mail to stop, and hope a better future is ahead. Had to deal with family for Halloween dressing as Trump, Elon Musk and just wearing MAGA merchandise;(not as a joke but for support) it’s such a bummer. I lightly do impressions to illustrate how insane the things he says are but their eyes light up and exclaim, “It makes me want to vote for him more…” Praying the true lesser evil wins and won’t have to deal with a “I told you so” Trump-a-poll-lose-a.

Steven Meltzer

Casting my vote here in Bethlehem, Northampton County, Lehigh Valley, Pennsylvania, USA, Earth... like the last presidential election it will really matter what happens in places in Pennsylvania outside of Philadelphia and Pittsburgh (especially Lehigh Valley, Scranton/Wilkes-Barre, Bucks County, Reading, York, Altoona, Harrisburg, Lancaster etc.). And as you said, things continue whatever happens afterwards. No matter who wins, the work continues.

Herb Shellenberger

Voting strategically is good and more involvement with local matters is sooooo important. Moralizing about peoples choice of voting and trying to argue against one’s conscience is a waste of time and energy. Let’s be real about the last 40+ years. It’s all been different versions of Reagan. no matter who wins this election, neither of them are going face the existential problems which this country is experiencing. To steal a quote, “extend and pretend”. The only thing guaranteed is further antagonisms towards China and potentially towards encouraging a hot war with them. A few more people will continue to get rich the path of self-destruction internally, and slowly abroad, will continue. This is grim but it’s the hard truth.

KD

there is a way in hell he is worse

skeletonmeat

"guess who" gets me everytime 🤣

Pee Pat

Just watched Sam Seder on “pim” Pools podcast and oof did Tim embarrass himself! I’ve never watched an episode of his podcast but only watched to see how it would go. Hoping you guys will talk about it on Tuesday. The halloween episode was great! I voted today and hope everyone else will 🗳️

🖤Cassie🖤

Yeah I’m just not buying the propaganda. I can’t vote for a party that has systemically destabilized and colonized nations around the world and continue to do so. If voting changed anything they wouldn’t allow us to do it. Modern society has a monopoly of violence that American politics reinforce. The violence of being completely disenfranchised by the political oligarchy of this country is the violence that tells you to vote for one of the two parties that maintain the status quo. This is an immense level of violence that we experience. Also the violence of being faced with working a job you hate until you die or dying an untimely death due to exposure or physical assault while living outside is an immense violence that both the democrats and republicans reinforce. History is a repetitive cycle of ownership of the modern means of production. The United States has delayed the natural cycle of greed and revolution for longer than any of our lives. The other shoe must drop and I anticipate and support that happening in my lifetime. I also want to address your comment, Des, on my “signing off view”. This is a conversation of consent. Political consent, but consent nonetheless. Consent is not symbolic and is something you have to live with for every moment after you consent. It matters a great deal, and if it doesn’t to you, the distractions of a consumer society are doing what they are made to do: Manufacture your consent to continue society on an unjust and destructive path.

Hank Will

I'm not looking forward to Tuesday but at least I will have the OHL community to hangout with.

Kara

I have been dreading filling out my ballot but your perspective on the election has been very helpful Tim. Thank you.

Kevin S.

Patrick Set Lavid

Painthuffer2

What time you guys gonna start broadcasting Tuesday?

Dan

Pumpkin spice lattes?

Dan

Des, I'm not allowed to vote for who I want to? That doesn't sound democratic. Voting against trump sounds symbolic. You're throwing your vote away out of protest (on Harris) because you don't like trump. Stop projecting. When are we allowed to disrupt the 2 party system? what structural change happened under Biden? Democrats are "generally better" on israel?!? You mean better at public relations and lying.

Journe

I appreciate you using your platform. You definitely cause a ripple effect. Just yesterday, I was able to get a stress-relieving chuckle out of my close group of female-presenting friends when I told them the Tale of Tim Apple (and did the drop). That stuff seems small in the moment, but life’s made up of little moments, and I’m really happy to have you all as part of my life’s moments 😌 On a more serious note…you might have seen this during my brief tussle on Discord, but some personal info I’m about to share is why your vocalness hits me deeply on different levels: My parents, as pre-teens, were ripped from wartorn Vietnam after the Fall of Saigon. The country, wracked with bloody division, serves as a firm reminder to me of what I do NOT want repeated for this country. Everyone is drawing their personal lines, and I appreciate you being open about yours. When I was at David Cross’s show, he expressed frustration with the disinterested male voter, and even divulged an absurd set up to snap them out of their apathy. So for artists like you and him that, when you “see something, say something,” I just wanna say thanks. We’ll get through this together. -Hanh

lilula9

There's no way in hell trump is worse than Holocaust Harris. They're both equal evil. The dems ignored the movement to abolish ICE. They gave them more funding than trump. Kamala wasn't even a primary choice. Democracy is dead. Oil companies are doing better under biden than under trump. All the things the dems are warning trump of doing, they are doing themselves. Peace and love but vote 3rd party and listen to the new Cure album.

Journe

It was a fun show Thursday 🎃 Will be tuning in from Scotland for the election night! Might have to pull an all nighter. Really hoping for the best outcome for you all stateside ✌🏻

Joss Humberstone

Ah, nuance!

Kyle

Whiplash from this comment you say voting doesn’t matter much and that it does matter back-and-forth. Voting is consequential, if you purposefully throw it away through a third party vote it just ignores the reality of the situation and a voter’s ability to affect change. Your ‘signing off view’ of voting is purely symbolic and does less to affect change than participating in the voting system as it currently is. Democrats are generally better on the Israel-Palestine situation, and they are the best viable party in the political system. Though many leftists want to act like the Palestinian genocide is the first genocide that the US has signed off on, it isn’t, the US was built on it. And continue to maintain it against Native Americans. Leonard Peltier is still locked up, and the lands continue to be encroached on. Structural change needs to happen to stop this sort of thing, you can’t change the structure if you choose symbolic gesture over participation. The US loves offshore genocide as it helps perpetuate non action in the electorate. Even in a blue state your vote matters, as the closer the popular vote, the more Trump will insist it is stolen.

Des L

I also liked Bernies recent interview w Lex Fridman (not particularly a fan of.) I registered independent a couple years ago and was planning to sit this one out – ngl Bernie convinced me to vote.

S. Walker

Respect to an office hours king 🫶

Hank Will

Well said Tim Highdeckher. I work at a low barrier homeless shelter and Wednesday morning will be the same as any other day for us. But it could become worse for people without documentation or people who rely on social services to survive (which is everyone at the shelter). But they will survive. They aren’t undergoing genocide. And I’ve decided not to vote on their behalf but on the behalf of people who are undergoing active starvation and bombing. Voting is one of the least consequential acts you can do politically, I don’t agree with the democrats policies towards economics, ecology, human rights, and Zionism so I won’t vote for them but that won’t change Oregon from voting blue. Voting third party, to me, says you are drawing a hard boundary about what you will sign your name off on. Which is the same philosophy I followed when I left a better paying job to do what I do now: I wasn’t going to be happy looking back at my life knowing I could have done something I considered to be more important. Quitting your job and doing something you love is 1000x more political than voting. But vote regardless, because ballot measures actually do matter

Hank Will

Happily voted PSL in my hard red state. Loved the ep this week!

Painthuffer2

I don't think Harris is perfect. I put a Harris/Walz sign in my yard with a United Nations flag attached. It's the only thing I could think of to show my support for LGBTQ, education, reducing climate change, etc, while showing support for the rule of international law and humanitarian aid. If you have a little time to watch this interview from 2019 it's well worth it. I found it to show Harris' humanity. Her passion for education and reversing systemic oppression in the States. Her sense of mental illness especially in relation to intergenerational trauma impressed me a lot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afIy2rDVecI&t=173s

Mary Newman

Considering this is a binary choice, you could’ve just written “Trump is worse.”

Tim Heidecker

also im sick and high as shit man. god bless and salutations etc from 22yr old trans guy loser in australia. good luck with the election over there.

catsey

hey, from australia. maybe sounds strange, but your work (as a body) has helped me keep energy for activism i do in my local area and helped prevent apathy setting in. feels easy to slip into but well, making things a better place to be is worth being active in. appreciate the people i have met in this community very deeply.

catsey

Aside from the Dems' actions in Gaza I find it so hard to imagine the mindset of people who hold any kind of optimism for a Harris presidency. She's more closely aligned herself with the right than any Democrat candidate in recent memory. If a left wing candidate is someone who proudly announces their plans to continue military spending and touts the same interest in "innovation" that has rotted the party and turned them away from the working class and towards the technocrats since the Clinton era, then the country no longer has any claim to a left wing option even existing. Sure, Trump is worse, but neither of these parties has any interest in resolving the monstrous economic inequality that has rendered the country an inhospitable workhouse.

Niall Johnson-Byrne

I'm so glad you guys are going to stream Tuesday night. The last election stream really got me through it.

MIREST

Agreed! My husband is American; the first day I ever came to the US was election day 2016. I took a train to the airport in the early morning, went through all the steps there and as I sat down at the gate I opened up my phone to the news.. it was a bizarre experience! But I have a lot of hope in this country, mainly because of the people I've come to know that are all such loving and caring people. Will stay up on Tues to join you, love you!

Hanz

thank you Lukas and it's one point i forgot to make, but being overseas for 2 weeks, everyone I talked to had our election on their minds and were deathly afraid of Trump winning. I know it's a small sample size, but it was pretty evident that Europeans feel and direct connection to what happens here and Trump winning could be very scary for them.

Tim Heidecker

all the best for your election on tuesday from austria! hoping the best for you and sadly the whole world kind of (again)

Lukas Gander


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