Jane Marie, Carmen Christopher (Office Hours+ Episode 306)

Impeccable energy from that London caller at 1:22

Nathan Lane

'i thought you were the little monkey in NOPE' was soooo funny

Hanz

ahh. I guess I just heard how she stated it and I was like... um... Vitamin C is considered essential by pretty much every legitimate medical practice I've ever heard of.

nawtrobar

I think she was talking specifically about how some products are marketed as being able to fend off oncoming colds or cure them, like Emergen-C.

FerntFernt

We need a disclaimer that not only is it not true that vitamin C "doesn't do anything," it is a very necessary vitamin and scurvy is very real, very painful and very deadly.

nawtrobar

thanks for the Discord shout out! We're a mess but the love is genuine ✨ Carmen and Jane had such a fun rapport with everyone. Pretty awesome when two guests who don't know each other vibe well.

lilula9

What was Doug’s rec?

JK47

sending well wishes to vic! if his reverse aging continues to accelerate at this rate he'll be a baby next week.

Tim Lyons

I’m not sure what “dank asl” means or what is “random” about the articles as they are all related to the deceptive tactics used by TM or the various lawsuits. Literally the first link is titled “Ivanka Trump’s Gurus Say Their Techniques Can End War and Make You Fly” which should be a red flag for anyone. Click on that and you can read all about the magical beliefs of TM. And to be clear there is a lot wider of a spectrum between the Branch Davidians and a legitimate organization, in fact many cult survivors have used that exact language to justify to friends and family why they are not in a cult only to later realize it was. Not every organization with cultic dynamics wears robes and lives in a commune, although TM leaders do wear white robes and a Burger King Crown 👑 as seen here: https://youtu.be/G8ArHOdDhR4?si=vJ5tSXPYl2oy07Qc I’m not sure where I came across “Aggro” and everyone has a right to their opinion but when you disagree with the majority opinion of highly trained experts in the field of cultic studies who have spent their lives studying cults and TM specifically with no research or experience of your own, you are headed into Joe Rogan territory. Call it whatever you want but it is a fraudulent organization that purposely deceives individuals and organizations for money and power. This has been very well documented over the past 50 years.

Robert Van Vranken

Please bring Carman back solo! I'm a new fan 😍

Whitney McCaskill

That first website link is dank asl, it is just a swathe of random articles about TM (most not having anything to do with it being a cult?). . . I think people can form cult-like attachment to something like TM, but the organization doesn’t have the structure or ideology of a Cult. They let you ‘leave,’ though you can pay to learn, and it’s not really ‘joining’ anything. There is plenty to criticize it for (new age spiritualism, in general), but it is not a full fledged cult. It is important to keep things in relative perspective. Acting like TM is equivalent to the Branch Dividians is absurd. You admit that most people have a surface level experience that is fine and not harmful in anyway. . .people can get too far into anything, no? I think the disagreement here boils down to the fact that you have a lower bar for something to qualify as a cult than Matt (seemingly) or myself. You got really aggro because someone expressed a different opinion than yours. I’m sure people have had negative experiences with TM people, but that doesn’t make it a cult. Organizations with hierarchical structures tend to lead towards abuse possibilities.

Des L

Jane Marie was a great guest. She seemed to have really "got it".

KD

yes Adam

Tom

This one rocked, bring CarMan back on the show for the full 2 hours. His energy is perfect for you guys. Also beginning fake Vic part was killing me

Sam Stringer

Oh my gosh I just saw Godzilla minus one and it was so good! That deer movie was alright. Love Doug's games!!! Carmen was hilarious!! Now I have to rethink taking vitamins. I want to snuggle with Doug!!

Kara

First of all my assertion that TM has for decades been known to be a cult by experts is not in any way a criticism of Tim. I’ve worked with hundreds of cult survivors and I would never criticize them or think less of them and neither should you. By design most people who casually engage with TM on a surface level won’t have negative experiences and the organization will come across as benign. That doesn’t change the fact that the roots of the foundation, its history and philosophy are completely fraudulent. Unfortunately the organization has put millions of dollars into media campaigns, sought celebrity endorsements, and produced misleading science so people who engage with it on a surface level will see it as innocuous. If you actually care to look beyond the surface before making a judgement you will find the various lawsuits, abuse allegations, fraudulent claims and more that have been known for 50+ years. For god sakes just google “TM Yogic Flying” and you’ll see what an obvious and hilarious grift it is. Again there’s decades worth of research and really great resources if you care to look. If you want to put it all in context read “McMindfullness” by Ronald Purser. I love Tim and am not judging him in any way but the facts are the facts.

Robert Van Vranken

So I should forget to unmute and then ask how it's going? Got it.

Devon Summers

This was a great episode. On God.

Daniel Miller

Tim and his family were obviously not associated with a cult, come on. Don’t you know him better than that? There are nuances to everything that can superficially look like something they’re not. Just don’t be so quick to label

Daniel Miller

Franklin mint chocolate chip 🤌

jeff s

An all timer!!

Joe Clark

Can someone tell new Vic I think they’re cute

roxxyxxyxxy

This episode had the #positivepush

Marla Byrne

These guests ruled! Also new Vic was funny. Doug's games are always fucking badass. Awesome episode! Thanks guys!

Johnnee

It’s a joke about the prevalence of harassment and inappropriate behavior in the entertainment industry.

Ragle Gumm

he was talking into his iPhone lol. no plugins or outboard gear dude

Sam B

he just said Vic was slapping asses, didn't specify male or female. and it's humorous because it's incongruous with Vic's established temperament. hope this helps

Sam B

Adam from London was great! Also a reminder of how cool and spontaneous the World Wide Web can be!

Joss Humberstone

Well,Cult experts who have devoted their careers to studying it would disagree: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8ArHOdDhR4

Robert Van Vranken

hmmm. I'd say on the scale of I'm REALLY Into Star Trek to The Manson Family, TM shades dramatically toward the Former... thanks t

Tim Heidecker

Hey, Guys Thanks for showing my Dopp of the Mornin! I've now got a bone to pick though because TM is absolutely a cult by any definition. I happen to work with leading cult experts from the International Cultic Studies Association and have interviewed many experts and former members. Here's some info: https://culteducation.com/group/1195-transcendental-meditation-movement.html

Robert Van Vranken

Man, Carmen was great. It’s always awesome when there’s proper comics on the show.

Ragle Gumm

I don’t think you do get it tbh

Ragle Gumm

I love hearing Tim sing! I'd like to hear him try something by Wayne Newton or Faith no more 😃😁😃

Athena

The MLM talk reminded me of when my older brother got half pulled in to CutCo selling knifes. He was like only 15 maybe 16 at the time, which I guess was okay, and he was an angsty little goth kid so everyone was worried about him caring around a case full of knives everywhere and demonstrating how sharp they were at family gatherings, when he finally sold the sets he was given they tried to pay him in more knives instead of money luckily he didn’t go for it but he never got paid, these MLM scams are all F’d up though.

My Boot

I...don't think it was a gay joke...

Painthuffer2

Tim's dream sounds like TLJ's dream at the end of No Country

Jon Smith

I wasn't familiar with Carmen before this episode (not a car guy) but he was hilarious

Dan

It is an ironic bit. I'm not sure how Tim heads keep having this sort of thing fly over their heads.

Painthuffer2

Tim's Trump trying to levitate bit is great stuff

Jimjim

westend_td

Forgot to eat your açaí bowl this morning again? -Matt

Tim Heidecker

Conquer your fear! But have a topic. -Matt

Tim Heidecker

The sweatier Tim’s pits the better the show

Jack

You seem like you might be 78 years old

Painthuffer2

Great episode. Carmen was on FIRE. Jane was a lovely guest for putting up with the crew's shenanigans and slaying at Doug's game. Will be checking out her stuff. This show brings light to a lot of people's lives.

Ian

Connor / lex parody has to happen, would be insane

A

Adam was a legendary zoomer, more of him please

A

John C.

I want to call in and ask a question but I'm terrified of Tim.

Devon Summers

No I think he means the YouTube live chat during episodes

Christian

Holy shit is Carmen Christopher funny

Christian

"you're a little cutie, Doug" can. we get that. drop?

Caleb Sawyer

great guests! jane brings a good energy and she's super down-to-earth, car-man is funny as fuck, vic was a bit quiet. i can't believe how drops never stop being funny. the s.o.a.d. 'computers' tickled me today

marshy

"Big Toilet is owned by Starbucks" - Doug "DJ Douggpound" Lussenhop

Grant Peterson

I think Conner and Tim would vibe so well together, hope it can happen. He's done other podcasts, but they are younger and more obscure, maybe he thinks OHL is too normie.

FerntFernt

Did you guys watch the Rogan’s load house talking to Sandler… there is a lot to dissect there. I wish I could know more about Farley. Instead it’s some east coast thing and they didn’t bring up the boss. It’s all hair metal. Well the boss won.

Cody Hamm

gratata

sk

Great episode I'm surprised you guys didn't realize the resemblance between Carmen and PBD

Jimjim

I love when Tim hates om Kiss, I love Kiss too. Black Diamond, so good!

Journe

De-essers can add a lisp sound to certain plosives if you have the attack/release set wierd. He did seem hyper tho

Josiah

Thanks Tim! I plucked my eyebrows to hell bc it was cool as a teenager in the 2000s and for the longest time I thought they never grew back but naur! Just very, very blonde

Hanz

Dearest Tim - I think perhaps you've just got to stoop down to Conner's level and reach out yourself. Stretch your legs and get real nasty. All respect to Producer Matt but I'm not sure that he's enough of a sex person to catch that fish. With love, A Discorder

rainbowdark

Da bearz

Matthew Sigur

Is this where all the hub bub is ?

Commander Mark

I think so but I'm not sure

Thomas Dunleavy

I live for this show

Thomas Dunleavy

is this the chat?

Wayne Walker

Yesssss

Paul Sisco

Hey man what's that sound? everybody look what's going down?

Paul Sisco

Love watching on youtube...until the private hour 🫣

Thomas Dunleavy

Tim 🍎

Tyler Burnett