We're Here Now
Added 2024-07-22 04:01:53 +0000 UTCHey, hope you had a good weekend! I thought I'd just update you guys on where I'm at. Feel free to join in on the conversation below. Obviously, today the news I was hoping for happened. Biden finally came to his senses and announced he was no longer running for president. I think he'd probably have preferred to make a public appearance and a surprise letter on social media was most likely not ideal. But none of this is.
There really was no choice for him anymore. The dominos were tumbling in real time. Just imagine the ads the GOP would run of sitting Senators calling for him to step down. The money was drying up and the lights were dimming on the whole thing. You could argue how much of it was self inflicted or media driven but it doesn't really matter any more. That's for the historians to debate. It's over for Joe.
I've been a strong proponent for an Open Convention, but it seems like things are moving quickly to get behind Harris. I understand this reasoning and how the top contenders in an Open Convention may simply not want enter the race this late in the game, and sail against the wind of a Party that's quickly making up it's own mind. Shifting to Harris is easier, logical and perhaps unavoidable. We'll see how the next week or so plays out, but the swiftness of endorsements from people as disparate as Hilary to AOC makes me think the dye is cast.
She's not my first pick, but I can't argue she's not qualified. I'm certain she's to the left of Biden on Gaza, and probably a lot of other things too.
I would be very excited to see her debate Trump. We'll see how the next few days and weeks play out, but if it's her, she'll have my support and my vote.
But take a moment to consider the momentous US History being written in real time. In the past 2 months:
Trump charged with 34 Felonies.
Biden's disastrous Debate
Attempted Assassination of Trump
Biden drops out of race.
Any one of those events would be a thick chapter in your US History textbook. Just wild times, and I hope you all are managing the stress of it all.
See you Tuesday, peace and love T
Comments
Thank you, Mary. I mean that sincerely. It definitely helps me get over one of the major misgivings I’ve had about her. In retrospect, looking back at my state of mind a couple of weeks ago, I’m happy to say that I’ve changed a LOT of my view of Harris. It’s no longer going to be a reluctant vote.
Kevin Spilker
2024-08-03 15:50:57 +0000 UTCHey! Pretty crazy. I’m a big Tim-head. I don’t agree with Harris on a lot of issues. But I’ll obviously vote for her to protect my rights and the rights of my community (LGBTQ). I hope other people on the left wing will put aside their reservation and support/vote for her in order to help people in vulnerable communities. The main reason Trump won in 16 was a result of Green Party voters. A Trump dictatorship will ruin millions of lives. Only extremely privileged people (I.e. people not in a historically oppressed communities) can afford to not vote for Harris.
Ben Terwilliger
2024-07-29 00:37:08 +0000 UTCHere's an article that describes her trajectory on pot. Keep in mind that when you're prosecutor you are supposed to prosecute according to the current law not create policy. It seems as though once she was in a position to create policy, she did move to diminish penalties for pot. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/07/22/kamala-harris-marijuana-stance-policy/74495543007/
Mary Newman
2024-07-25 17:41:05 +0000 UTCJourne - You’re a joke to think that I’d be afraid of your racist ass. Move to Iran and become their propaganda czar. You’re really good at it
Daniel Miller
2024-07-25 05:24:45 +0000 UTCIf you continue your antisemitic and rape apologizing shit, then the heat will never stop coming for you either. Free Gaza from Hamas
Daniel Miller
2024-07-25 05:18:46 +0000 UTCone of the best troll comments of all time no cap
Alexander Connolly
2024-07-24 02:51:53 +0000 UTCIt’s really hard to get behind someone who ruined lives with mandatory minimum sentences for weed. I get that the alternative is worse. But in the words of the great, and obnoxiously unbearable, MJK, “I’m more than just a little curious how you’re planning to go about making your amends to the dead”.
Kevin Spilker
2024-07-23 17:42:15 +0000 UTCProving once again why he's the cap'n!
James Patterson
2024-07-23 16:10:14 +0000 UTCEvery zionist spewing garbage needs a little heat thrown at them. I do not apologize
Journe
2024-07-23 16:09:32 +0000 UTCLikely enjoys meeting people who make her laugh, as well.
James Patterson
2024-07-23 16:04:22 +0000 UTCAnd this is why we'll sink further and further into fascism, because Americans don't want to think about what their government is committing against people at home and abroad.
Carly Melancon
2024-07-23 12:56:08 +0000 UTCTo be fair Radical political change definitely doesn’t happen in the Office Hours Patreon comments. Name calling and personal attacks are not necessary and don’t help you make your point. Everybody needs to cool out here. -Matt
Tim Heidecker
2024-07-23 06:17:04 +0000 UTCMight be worth reading the whole thing, it won't hurt you.
Aleck Watson
2024-07-23 02:37:51 +0000 UTCThank you, Cap 🫡
Max
2024-07-23 00:19:00 +0000 UTCI appreciate you Matt, Trinity and this community!
Justin Griffith
2024-07-23 00:08:48 +0000 UTCI appreciate you Matt, Trinity, and this community!
Justin Griffith
2024-07-23 00:07:36 +0000 UTCDaniel you don’t have to be aggressive toward other members of the community to make your point. Let’s try to take it down a notch. Maybe take a little comment section break? Join us on game night for some fun n laffs. Cool out as the great mick jagger once said. ☮️❤️ -Matt
Tim Heidecker
2024-07-23 00:06:08 +0000 UTCOne reason I selfishly look forward to Harris being nominated: it's going to trigger the fuck out of Trump to debate a Black woman prosecutor.
Angelo Mike
2024-07-22 23:04:25 +0000 UTCthank for the recc!
Tim Heidecker
2024-07-22 22:20:16 +0000 UTCVinny is an angry patriot https://youtu.be/DIaNbo24lCA?si=bCDfz1wK2k_c9Lph He's beet red. He's a grotesque. I'm voting for the democrat 100per
Gavin Borden
2024-07-22 19:34:00 +0000 UTCThey were really going to try to sneak a dying old man through until his pathetic performance on the debate stage. Then media reports “Biden has a cold”. Wow. He drops in polls and goes on an I’m Not That Old Press Tour where he continues to prove that he’s old. He then refuses to back out despite tanking in polls. The only reason he backed out is because everyone stopped donating money. Now we have no option, we didn’t have any say in this nominee. Hell, we didn’t choose Joe in 2020. Obama did.
Logan Dotson
2024-07-22 17:51:12 +0000 UTCI have a brother?!? 😭
Logan Dotson
2024-07-22 17:43:33 +0000 UTC"fix/dismantle the system" this kind of black-and-white thinking with a complex issue like criminal justice is just silly and it's damaging to a healthy, democratic society. we do need laws to prevent chaos. and laws are useless without prosecutors. trump would love nothing more than a dismantled justice system so he can be king of the world.
creg
2024-07-22 17:35:12 +0000 UTCTim is my Dad.
Kyle Moore
2024-07-22 17:27:54 +0000 UTCSlightly unrelated but T (and Doug and Vic too) I'm wondering what your comfort movies/TV shows are. Mine are mostly old comedies and musicals. Also early Real Housewives of NJ. It's like real life Sopranos but trashier.
Melissa
2024-07-22 17:07:02 +0000 UTCIs there any indication that Kamala would do anything differently than Biden? Do people think she was just sitting there silently disapproving while the administration she is VP of did all these shitty things? Her record is terrible and she's not popular at all. Her campaign in 2020 was a joke, now we're supposed to act like she's a completely different person? We're coming up on almost 10 years of trying to "stop Trump." The Democrats are a dead end.
WL
2024-07-22 16:13:39 +0000 UTCRespectability politics can go straight to hell. Genuine radical political change does not happen via politeness. The Holocaust wasn't ended by "norms of discourse". What a disgusting thing to say.
Painthuffer2
2024-07-22 15:35:42 +0000 UTCRec for the day: the album Big Ideas by Remi Wolf
Matt Andrews
2024-07-22 15:27:53 +0000 UTCStopped reading after you said you refuse to vote. Completely invalidates anything you have to say tbh.
Russ Hull
2024-07-22 15:27:08 +0000 UTCFeels good to have some hope of winning again. I always viewed Joe as a transition candidate and for him to step down was a really selfless thing. It’s a good sign that the Trump world is starting to meltdown over this news. There’s a huge cult in this country but I have a good feeling that the unindoctrinated are going to show up big time for Kamala (and I hope it is Kamala. Seems like it will be)
Matt Andrews
2024-07-22 15:25:04 +0000 UTCTim… Wondering if you’ve read ‘Black Pill’ by Elle Reeve. If not, I highly recommend. It’s a thorough and fascinating look into the online subcultures that helped spawn the MAGA movement… From 4 Chan and ‘incel culture’ to the alt-right to QAnon and J6. Elle was present during the unite right rally and J6 and interviewed many of the players. She draws a direct line from that world to current members of Congress. It’s disturbing but necessary reading to understand how we got here. She’d make a great guest…
Jeremy Borgeson
2024-07-22 15:12:51 +0000 UTCI think one of the areas Harris has been criticized for is being especially tough on crime. I have bought into that criticism but as time goes on I see that a lot of the focus on lessening prison terms, making certain felonies into misdemeanors (prop 47 here in CA, not a Harris policy but just an example of something that’s pretty much backfiring on the public in numerous thefts that are casually happening here) is misguided in that it puts the cart before the horse. Before we change the level of accountability, we need to have programs in place that help develop/prevent criminal behavior to begin with. This runs the gamut from basic support to incentives for kids/adults to improve their lives among many other types of community supporting programs. Without this basic societal shift, it makes no sense to allow people to commit crimes with less consequences. I have some neighbors who have panic attacks because people are hopping their back fences nearly every night. They see it on the video surveillance, and nothing can really be done about it. Of course some of this is due to some people’s temperaments in how they react to this kind of stressor. It’s pretty much nonviolent minor theft in the neighborhood but it’s disturbing for a lot of people. And it’s a shift since prop47. I voted for 47 it’s something I’d love to believe in, but I’m not liking the results I’m seeing. I think as a prosecutor you see the worst of human behavior, behavior that most of us don’t see. Either way as a democrat I can’t see another path other than getting behind her. Right now I feel happy to do so. Usually I'll get burned but that seems to be humanity.
Mary Newman
2024-07-22 15:07:26 +0000 UTCtl;dr direct action, making personal ‘lifestyle’ changes, ‘living in place’, working locally to change the livability of communities, is how we create real, lasting change. Been there. Did my best to do that. But there are 330 million people in this country. I don’t know if you’ve been to the suburbs of a major metropolitan city lately, but the idea that 99% of the people in this country will commit themselves to making the kinds of changes that are necessary to transform society are….well, nil. that’s not to say it’s not happening because it certainly is, especially in cities. This Noam Chomsky interview is worth reading for any leftist who thinks voting for the lesser of two evils doesn’t accomplish anything : “Take Biden’s campaign positions. Farther to the left than any Democratic candidate in memory on things like climate. It’s far better than anything that preceded it. Not because Biden had a personal conversion or the DNC had some great insight, but because they’re being hammered on by activists coming out of the Sanders movement and others. The climate program, a $2 trillion commitment to dealing with the extreme threat of environmental catastrophe, was largely written by the Sunrise Movement and strongly endorsed by the leading activists on climate change, the ones who managed to get the Green New Deal on the legislative agenda. That’s real politics.” He continues: “This is not support for Biden. It is support for the activists who have been at work constantly, creating the background within the party in which the shifts took place, and who have followed Sanders in actually entering the campaign and influencing it. Support for them. Support for real politics. The left position is you rarely support anyone. You vote against the worst. You keep the pressure and activism going.”
Jeremy Borgeson
2024-07-22 15:05:48 +0000 UTCCan't say I didn't anticipate this response. The idea that a democratic society should abandon norms of discourse when its passions are inflamed is bad. Have a good one!
Strerve McAlvoy
2024-07-22 14:49:31 +0000 UTCOh no I'm sorry you had to finger wag and tone police some folks because of their rage over a genocide :( We will try to do better :(
Painthuffer2
2024-07-22 14:40:56 +0000 UTCzionists are literally committing genocide, but go ahead be mad about language and tone lol
Jenny Schmidt
2024-07-22 14:37:41 +0000 UTCI'm disappointed at this thread. Daniel-- It is possible, even within your viewpoint, to have a charitable interpretation of what Tim meant. While Hamas is a fundamentalist religious organization and itself does not fit neatly into left/right, Israel's occupation/control/power over the Palestinians, not to mention its existence as a state for a particular people rather than "humanity", is clearly mappable to the left/right axis. There are nuances here but let's not act like what Tim said doesn't make sense. Hamas being horrible does not excuse many elements of Israeli politics that are roughly mappable to left vs. right. To Journe those 8 OHL fans who, incensed by Daniel, upvoted "Vive Hamas", you disappoint me as well. I'm also, to be frank, not so hot on "eat my shit you zionist fuck", the use of zionist as slur and its 8 upvotes, the apparently condoning of people just cursing each other in the Patreon. I'm disappointed, in advance, of those who will say that, because of the suffering of the Palestinians, that my comments about this discourse are unimportant. Insofar as OHL has a responsibility to moderate this forum, I'm disappointed as well. Argue your positions but be respectful.
Strerve McAlvoy
2024-07-22 14:21:58 +0000 UTCseems to like to have fun
Clay N. Ferno
2024-07-22 14:04:06 +0000 UTCcame here to say this... maybe...this one time?
Clay N. Ferno
2024-07-22 14:03:50 +0000 UTCI was backing whoever they put on the ticket, but was temporally behind on asking him to back out. regardless... I like where we are now
Clay N. Ferno
2024-07-22 14:02:51 +0000 UTC🍉🍉🍉
T$
2024-07-22 13:46:42 +0000 UTCthe iof are the ones doing the raping
Jenny Schmidt
2024-07-22 13:14:47 +0000 UTC🍉🍉🍉
Mary-Anne McTrowe
2024-07-22 13:11:10 +0000 UTCAfter the lid on Pandora's box flew open under the Trump administration, I'll take a shred of hope. I appreciate you processing with us. I wasn't on here for the last election cycle but I feel comforted this space is safe enough for you to chat with us. Your takes give me a filter to the news, a framework to think about as I attempt to unplug in the garden. Hope you're destressing as well, and we'll C U tomorrow! 🌈
lilula9
2024-07-22 13:10:34 +0000 UTC💪🏻❤️
Mary-Anne McTrowe
2024-07-22 13:08:37 +0000 UTChave we ever heard donald laugh?
Mig
2024-07-22 12:49:02 +0000 UTCAt least she likes to laugh! Although it’s very disconcerting for most of us
T$
2024-07-22 12:28:19 +0000 UTCVic needs to release a video showing how crazy the rnc actually was -- without insulting people. And remind people how worn out we felt re: trump last time. Half the value of Biden winning was that government wasn't a daily thing and we could just live life.
Jeff Franchetti
2024-07-22 12:25:43 +0000 UTCBen, this is your cousin Tristan. Funny running into you here! Impossible for me to get on the side of someone who has built her career imprisoning people instead of trying to fix/dismantle the system, but maybe the general public will be more forgiving.
T$
2024-07-22 12:22:15 +0000 UTCOk painthuffer, Im supposed to take you seriously? Lol. Biden is an expert politician. Youre a fool if you bought into the narrative of him being senile. Im not here to have an argument with you, this isnt twitter.
Zach M
2024-07-22 12:13:32 +0000 UTCGetting to the polls with Biden on the ticket would have been a real plug your 👃. Harris is an easy pick. A convention will only make her less of a hero. If Love Island and Joe Rogan are filling our brains, these folk can at least convince the American people Trump is bad bad and Harris is good good.
Brian Rooney
2024-07-22 11:18:10 +0000 UTCBeshear is an awesome pick! I also like Shaprio (cuz PA) and Buttigieg would wipe the floor with Vance's beard.
Brian Rooney
2024-07-22 11:12:17 +0000 UTCjokerman font, Little Man
Matt James
2024-07-22 11:11:55 +0000 UTCBruh. You can't be this knowledgeable and not vote! C'mon :-)
Brian Rooney
2024-07-22 11:09:58 +0000 UTCkeep watching
Matt James
2024-07-22 11:07:52 +0000 UTCHaha, but it sure is fun
Matt James
2024-07-22 11:07:32 +0000 UTCHey Daniel, (and everyone else for that matter) I want to share this article written by a volunteer surgeon who risked their life to help the innocent people of Gaza, and what they witnessed and felt, first hand. But please be warned, it is graphic. https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/07/19/gaza-hospitals-surgeons-00167697 warning: Graphic Photos The deaths of innocent people simply trying to live is always wrong. This shouldn't need to be said. Those harmed the most by war are always innocent people. In this case, there's one side that has killed astronomically more innocent people, with the aid of the USA (not new). It is backwards that such religious people seem to condone the most heinous of acts against humanity - ie: the withholding of aid to help starving people. Here's a video I think everyone needs to see. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I--AUvKnP6k Description: war through the eyes of gazan children. (not graphic)
Matt James
2024-07-22 11:04:24 +0000 UTCHey gang, no doubt Harris will be a more successful candidate than Biden, who knows if the bloated establishment corpse of the Dems can beat the flashy Trump cult but I wish y'all luck because there are differences between policy in both (which has not always been the case in previous elections). As a physically and mentally disabled rural poor person who has been a lifelong anarchist (And I dont want to be called for jury duty lol) I do not see it worth the effort to vote but I do not fault anyone for doing so. While we are talkin politics I wanted to throw some ideas out incase they are new to people. Not trying to hijack the discussion, I think Biden stepping down was the only strategic way to go and I do not want to see a Trump presidency but I also think it is important to remember that voting certainly is not the only way to engage with making this country a better place to live. Clearly nothing has ever really 'worked' to bring us a peaceful fruitful society but there is a rich history of physical activity in the real world throughout american and world history that goes beyond simply checking a box every 2-4 years that we can learn lessons from. Despite the egg-headed wrapping Guy Debord's Society of The Spectacle is bound with I think the central thesis is essential. The rich have figured out how to control the poor by removing as much physical activity from the world as possibly and replaced it with symbolic activity that is easily absorbed back into the status quo. Anyway, I wanted to go beyond the knee-jerk 'they're the same' rhetoric about republican and democrat candidates and present a few suggestions of activity to make the world a better place which I encourage anyone to get involved in whether they vote or not. 1. Mutual Aid Programs - While these will not change foreign policy or halt climate change with a little know how and effort you can easily save lives one person at a time. Food, clothes, & shelter should all be free and it is all around us but still inaccessible to some. This can look like so many things, giving free meals with a group like food not bombs, opening up a free store (basically a thrift store that is completely free of charge), free library, teaching free skills in a public park or library, anything people need that you know how to do, particularly if it is more labor than resources or something where there is an abundance of resources can be helpful to people. You can take this even further if you do not mind breaking the law. Break open vacant homes to create squats and so on. Not only do you make sure someone eats or gets medical care but you also might just make some new friends in your community. When I set up many programs like this in the past we had regulars who I swear I might be the only person they talked to that week. It wont change the world but you can change individual peoples worlds entirely with a relatively low amount of effort. I have even seen socialists and marxists do free mechanic work on vehicles and that sorta thing the options are endless. I used to shoplift and dumpster dive then hand out what I found just as an example. 2. Workplace Organizing - Yes it is good to form a union with teamsters or whoever but in my experience with the exception of the UAW most of them barely do shit. But there is such a thing as grassroots unions like the IWW, and if you find yourself in the right situation you do not need a union to make your workplace a better place to be you just need to support of your coworkers if you can get on the same page and act together you can control a lot more than you might imagine in your workplace. 3. Prisoner Support. - I am not going to lay out the entire case here on why I hate US prisons but they majorly suck. Most people there are either innocent, a political prisoner, or did something nonviolent that should not get them locked in a literal cage like a domesticated abused animal. The US is unique in 'the west' for having extremely high incarceration rates and lengths of sentences. Truly threatening political activity and even just day to day run of the mill activity whatever it is can easily lead to prison time in a fascist society like the one we find ourselves in. I know people who have spent decades in prison for things they did not do, for self defense, for things like breaking windows and other meaningless nonsense. We are talking about a country that gives people life sentences for weed. Who is going to do anything to make this world a better place with a risk that large? We can alleviate some of that by supporting folks who are in trial or are already convicted. In my state they force prisoners to pay taxes on commissary items, they pay more on the inside than I do on the outside for basic necessities all while making a dollar an hour and prison is all about isolation even a letter or a phone call can be the highlight of a persons week. Prisons thrive on the isolation their subjects experience and much like fascist politicans regularly float completely bullshit policies just to see if anyone notices or pushes back, if not then they get away with it. Bail people out, show up to their trial, courts do sometimes respond to public pressure. 4. Disrupt everything! - During Occupy Wall Street in my medium sized largely inactive city we disrupted every political event both republican and democrat over a year or so to the point they quit announcing them publicly. We stole their headlines in the local media and made it about our own messages and we made them have smaller turn outs. We did this with like 5 people and never got arrested once. Granted things are a little different now with the alt-right being armed to the teeth but it is still an option. 5. Temporary Autonomous Zones - This sort of relates to the mutual aid thing if you are holding physical space. When we can, where we can, it is important to carve out space for people to come together and behave differently than we do in capitalism, not buying or selling anything, and no cops! These things are temporary in nature and can range from a warehouse rave to defending a forest from destruction. 6. Plant Trees - I know like all our options on the table this one sounds like a drop in the ocean but we can effect the physical landscape around us. Climate collapse already started a decade ago and will not be neutralized but we can decide how bad that experience is going to be and planting trees is a real physical way to make that an easier transition. I highly recommend the podcast Propaganda of the Seed for real practical gardening information from people who are taking climate change into consideration as well as the book Desert - by anonymous and written in 2011 7. Learn skills - Whatever we face the next several decades in this country is not going to be pretty. There are lots of basic (and more advanced) medical techniques we can learn to help people with no access to healthcare or in an emergency. Firearms training is absolutely essential even for pacifists. Is pacifism even a choice if you do not know how to fire a weapon? Self defense is essential it could save your life or your loved ones. 8. We gotta talk about non violence - In the US since the 1960s somehow nonviolence has been warped to mean 'do whatever the cops or politicians say'. People get called violent for refusing to disband a protest which we have every legal right to participate in when the cops tell everyone to go home. People get called violent for smashing windows or lighting dumpsters on fire to keep the cops at a safe distance. And all the time people get called violent for acts of self defense. Property destruction is not violence. Nonviolence has never been the major sails of any meaningful societal change. Gandhi was a piece of shit and only got a seat at the table because of folks like Bhagat Singh. MLK who I have love for like many of the 'nonviolent' folks in the civil rights movement was armed and how far do you think he would have gotten without the threat of Malcolm X? Nat Turner, John Brown, the only time things have changed for the better is when the gears of this society are stopped from grinding ahead. There would be no Civil War without the abolitionists risking everything to ignore the law completely. I highly recommend the book 'How Nonviolence Protects The State' by Peter Gelderloos. What made the 1960s so threatening IMO is that on one side they had the threat of violence from folks like the BLA, Black Panthers, Weather Underground, Yippies etc and on the only side of the same struggle they had the students (whose role in society is to become the managerial oppressors for the rich) completely drop out of society choosing instead to get high and have orgies & dodging the draft leaving less human infrastructure to keep the system going. There are not very many rich people, and there are not as many police as you think, if we do not do their dirty work for them then that dirty work does not get done. Anyway I am sure I missed a lot this is off the top of my ol dusty broken brain but just something I hope people consider. Some other books that might be of interest include: A People's History of The United States - Howard Zinn How Nonviolence Protects The State - Peter Gelderloos Desert – Anonymous Society of The Spectacle - Guy Debord Conquest of Bread - Peter Kropotkin The Unique and Its Property - Max Stirner One Dimensional Man - Herbert Marcuse Days of War Nights of Love - Crimethinc Armed Joy - Alfredo Bonanno The Anarchist Tension - Alfredo Bonanno Manufacturing Consent - Noam Chomsky Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee - Dee Brown This Nonviolent Stuff'll Get You Killed - Charles E. Cobb JR. Red State Rebels - Tales of Grassroots Resistance in the Heartland And anything from/about someone who had direct experience particularly from the 1960s/70s. The Black panthers, The EZLN (Zapatistas), MLK & Malcolm X, Red Army Faction, Seattle 99, Ferguson, Occupy Wall Street, Standing Rock, the Earth Liberation Front, Animal Liberation Front, Makhnovischina & Nestor Makhno, Bash Back, and on and on. Peace & Love.
TrashVHS
2024-07-22 10:57:34 +0000 UTCQuite literally when I saw the news, the FIRST thing I said out loud is "Tim is going to be SO happy", I was right!
Blizzard Wuffy
2024-07-22 10:42:23 +0000 UTCViss president
jen.
2024-07-22 09:50:40 +0000 UTCFrom the river to the sea, Palestine will be free. Now, fuck off, Daniel! Antifada🇵🇸
Eric
2024-07-22 09:18:20 +0000 UTCPersonally I despise all politicians but there is no denying that Hillary uniquely had to be one of the worst choices in history to go up against trump. Unpopular with dems, the gop, and the usually disinterested. Somehow dems are good at finding the only candidates who could possibly be less popular than the loser republicans. While I do not have any specific feelings on Kamala at least this choice is better than usual and easily better than Biden or Hillary.
TrashVHS
2024-07-22 08:43:50 +0000 UTCAmen brother
Thomas Dunleavy
2024-07-22 08:41:02 +0000 UTCI’m coming to you fresh from watching Awesome Show and didn’t know too much about you outside of that. Glad to see you’re generally smart and reasonable. No fall from grace… YET
Michael Garner
2024-07-22 07:37:37 +0000 UTCWe're living in wild times. I hope we can get back to a point where politics is mostly boring again. The UAW president, Shawn Fein. He has great politics and is boredom incarnate. Make that nerd president in 2028 or whenever. Til then though, let's be unburdened with coconuts Kamala
Richard
2024-07-22 06:00:10 +0000 UTCThis guy is doing his Zionism thing again! See what I mean, gang?
Painthuffer2
2024-07-22 05:58:43 +0000 UTCLet's not buy into the dark Brandon 4D chess shit. Life is rarely that interesting.
Painthuffer2
2024-07-22 05:58:01 +0000 UTC*Sunday night poker game wraps up* What will we do without chips?
Matt B.
2024-07-22 05:25:15 +0000 UTCSorry I probably misheard I’ll admit that. I tried to find the interview I saw but I couldn’t find it however I did find the opposite, a video of Joe Biden saying she is qualified. So either he did misspeak or I heard him wrong. And I’m not a troll just trying to understand better thank you very much
Justin Griffith
2024-07-22 05:20:33 +0000 UTCThe Biden withdrawal was planned. He waited until after hannibal was done with the RNC, which was actually a brilliant political move. Think about all the advertising and all the troll farm bots that are going to need reprogramming. How about all the magats that just bought giant lets go brandon flags for the back of the pickup.. plus he has taken all the early campaign heat which was mostly about his age. Well, Trump is the old man now, isnt he? Last but not least, close to 60 mil in donations to Kamala today!?
Zach M
2024-07-22 05:15:11 +0000 UTCHe actually never said that, but nice try troll
Daniel Miller
2024-07-22 05:14:47 +0000 UTCKamala could knock this out of the park. I have seen some people worrying and drawing similarities to Hillary in 2016 (just because they’re both women) but the country is in a different place now, and Hillary was uniquely bad in that campaign, and with everything that’s happened with reproductive rights alone having a woman as the candidate feels powerful. Plus I don’t really see what Trump will be able to attack her on. So I’m at least slightly more hopeful now. And my prediction for her VP pick if we are placing bets is Andy Beshear, the democratic governor of Kentucky, he’s a boring white dude, but with the southern connection and he’s pretty popular in Kentucky, at least as popular as any democrat there can be.
My Boot
2024-07-22 05:13:47 +0000 UTCEat my shit you zionist fuck
Journe
2024-07-22 05:13:39 +0000 UTCEven the Gazans are sick of Hamas now and blame them for the destruction they’ve wrought. The only people who still support them are privileged racist Westerners
Daniel Miller
2024-07-22 05:13:04 +0000 UTCYou are a joke!
Journe
2024-07-22 05:11:02 +0000 UTCGenital mutilation and gender apartheid for the win!
Daniel Miller
2024-07-22 05:09:49 +0000 UTCI love how the far left has moved so extreme they’re actually praising hard right rapist terrorists now
Daniel Miller
2024-07-22 05:09:23 +0000 UTCGotta kiss the peach . You know how it goes…
Eric Anderson
2024-07-22 05:05:27 +0000 UTC🍑 💋
Daniel Miller
2024-07-22 05:02:25 +0000 UTCWhat would she have done differently? And is Hamas to the left or right of Israel? Why are we looking at that conflict through a bilateral lens?
Daniel Miller
2024-07-22 05:00:36 +0000 UTCWhat does to the left of Biden in Gaza even mean?
Daniel Miller
2024-07-22 04:59:12 +0000 UTCWatching Easy Rider to relax. Hopper had some serious directing hops
CB
2024-07-22 04:58:04 +0000 UTCFor months I also have been calling for Biden to withdraw from the race. I didn’t vote for him in the Kansas Democratic Primary in March. Obviously I think Harris is a much stronger candidate, but I don’t think she can win. She’ll be able to win a few more states than Biden could have won. Trump will win. And 2024 could be our last free election. I think Harris should pick a woman for Vice President. Gretchen Whitmer. I think we should double down on the woman-card. It would be radical and hopefully inspire women to vote Democratic in record numbers. The Democratic Party only campaigns on identity politics (vote for me because I’m gay, or Black, or a woman, etc.). I actually hate identity politics, it’s regressive, it enables the status quo of the billionaire elites controlling everything. I think the Democratic Party should campaign on class warfare, I.e., the working class of all backgrounds unite to overthrow the ruling class. The only issue Democrats are leading on is abortion. Americans trust Republicans more on every other issue (because Americans are dumb). Therefore, Democrats should make the campaign a referendum on abortion. Run two women, who will protect abortion rights. I don’t think it will work, but it’s our only hope. We have maybe a 1% chance of beating Trump.
Ben Terwilliger
2024-07-22 04:56:16 +0000 UTCI’d have to look for it but I think that’s what he said. I’m sure his view has changed since then given the situation. It’s just the politicing I’m getting frustrated with. I’m new to paying attention to it
Justin Griffith
2024-07-22 04:46:09 +0000 UTCMaybe I’m cynical but Kamala’s harsher tone on Israel as VP felt more like just a way to avoid being branded as pro-war. I have little faith she could do much different than Biden’s position, which was basically wagging his finger at Netanyahu and hoping for the best. I’m still excited for it. Really, really, really do not want Trump to be President again. I think people are exaggerating the end of democracy bit, but he would certainly cause a lot of damage to rights for a lot of people. Glad to see the Democratic Party actually try to WIN for once.
Brandon Holmes
2024-07-22 04:40:10 +0000 UTCI do feel much more hopeful now. I agree that a debate between Harris and Trump will be worth watching. Say what you will about Joe. The whole thing is kind of sad. I'm really grateful for his lifelong dedication to public service. The guy saved us from another Trump term. It must have been really tough for him to hand over the keys. It's up to Harris now. All we can do is vote.
Marc Smith
2024-07-22 04:37:41 +0000 UTChe didn't say that. if he did he misspoke?
Tim Heidecker
2024-07-22 04:36:46 +0000 UTCWhen Biden was asked not too long ago about Harris taking the reigns he said she isn’t qualified but now all of a sudden she is? Was that just him desperately hanging on or does he actually think she’s qualified now? Is she just the next best person or could there possibly be someone better? I wouldn’t vote for Trump but I’m still unenthusiastic about voting for Harris
Justin Griffith
2024-07-22 04:32:05 +0000 UTCYou should try and run for president Tim. You’ve already ran for district attorney. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 vote for Tim if you like having fun and like to laugh!
🖤Cassie🖤
2024-07-22 04:30:47 +0000 UTCDidn't know this.
Brendan
2024-07-22 04:24:37 +0000 UTCBiden dropping out gave me a bit of hope and energy. I no longer want to read the news, but it is muscle memory to open up the headline aggregate. USA, come to your senses.
Brendan
2024-07-22 04:23:38 +0000 UTCGrey Niner for transportation 🚚🇺🇸
Max
2024-07-22 04:23:10 +0000 UTCI think he could be easily shamed into debating. He’s also delusional.
Kenneth Messer
2024-07-22 04:22:04 +0000 UTCI'm fired up!
Joe Legzz
2024-07-22 04:21:38 +0000 UTCWrong, we are going to flush the orange turd down the toilet once and for all in November MARK MY WORDS
Joe Legzz
2024-07-22 04:21:13 +0000 UTCLove to see it T. Was an Elizabeth Warren person, still think of what the country would be if she had been Prez. Water would have tasted like cola and trees would have dropped affordable homes. Last week I literally said I would turn my back on the Democratic Party if they fucked up this election, still might happen. Back in the day it would mean I would vote for a Nader or Jello Biafra , … jello Biafra on the show ? Sure why not? Fact is Kamala is giving me excitement and hope and I just want the dems to give us and a feeling close to what we all felt in 2008. Show us a different person who represents a voice that has been pushed away for so long and wants a tangible and fair future for all Americans. That’s why I am nominating Jello Biafra for VP. Good night , and good luck.
Ryen
2024-07-22 04:20:07 +0000 UTCTim Heidecker for Prez Kyle Gass for VP
George Quick
2024-07-22 04:19:42 +0000 UTCObviously he does and a lot of us do as well... If you "don't care" why bother even commenting?
Joe Legzz
2024-07-22 04:19:32 +0000 UTCHeidecker for president
Grey N9ne
2024-07-22 04:18:58 +0000 UTCThank you Tim. You’ve given an alternate future to this timeline since the debate , as usual you are a soothsayer . Definitely appreciate this bonus post since it’s been such a heavy topic for the show this month
Eric Anderson
2024-07-22 04:16:02 +0000 UTCI don’t know if anyone can beat Trump after the failed assassination attempt. If Biden’s funding wouldn’t have dried up, the Dems would have 100% let him get wiped in the election. Curious to see who she picks for a VP, and I’ll be voting for her, but I won’t like it. She seems like she’s been wine drunk for the last 4 years. What VP would make people excited? Watch them fuck this up worse lol
Logan Dotson
2024-07-22 04:14:59 +0000 UTCMajor relief. Feeling hopeful. P&L and P&L
PatC
2024-07-22 04:14:11 +0000 UTCIt's Joever!
James Canales
2024-07-22 04:13:59 +0000 UTCThank you Tim for making this happen!
Reilly Tegan
2024-07-22 04:13:55 +0000 UTCHer record as a prosecutor could be a serious point of attack for republicans, in between the inevitable racism and lying. But it also means she can probably handle herself pretty well in a debate. I hope she makes a good VP choice.
Tom
2024-07-22 04:13:25 +0000 UTCI'm slightly optimistic for the first time in a long time. Let's go Mamala! Coconut Gang 🥥🥥🥥
Joe Legzz
2024-07-22 04:11:43 +0000 UTCwho cares man
Chris Mathews Jr.
2024-07-22 04:11:15 +0000 UTCSeems like “beating Trump” ought to be the only focus, even if the best opponent for him isn’t necessarily an ideal presidential candidate. It at least buys time. Maybe Harris can win. I don’t know. But I would love watching Trump have to go up against Swalwell, temu Alan Ritchson. Trump’s pathological insecurities would explode facing a young, fit, relatively handsome candidate.
Kevin Spilker
2024-07-22 04:10:43 +0000 UTCTrump already setting up to try and avoid the debate seems like a good sign as well.
Jimmy
2024-07-22 04:10:14 +0000 UTCThis makes me excited to see the potential debate too. The ultimate bully vs the ultimate goofy goober.
Abby Love
2024-07-22 04:10:12 +0000 UTCI know you watch the majority report (me as well, 5 year subscriber), check out Allen Litchmans podcast as well!
Stanley Chase
2024-07-22 04:09:47 +0000 UTCIt feels like a monumental shift that happened in minutes. I'm excited and while no candidate is perfect, I'm confident in Harris's capability. There is hope, and that feels good.
MIREST
2024-07-22 04:09:39 +0000 UTCI'm sick.
Troy Landin
2024-07-22 04:09:05 +0000 UTCI’m absolutely stoked! There’s a long road ahead, so let’s get to work!
johnbron
2024-07-22 04:08:34 +0000 UTCMomala has no hope against Trump
jacobk
2024-07-22 04:08:34 +0000 UTC
