Taylor's Stages of Grief Playlists
Added 2024-04-06 23:02:09 +0000 UTCGabbie joins me to break down each other Taylor's new playlists!
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I also really don’t like We Were Happy it’s such a skip I can’t
Sam Hubenet
2024-04-17 15:51:00 +0000 UTCthe week hasn’t started yet
Jessica
2024-04-14 16:30:12 +0000 UTCWhat’s going on Cam?! Thought we were getting more content this week. Is everything ok?
EntGirl
2024-04-14 16:29:49 +0000 UTC“I can go anywhere I want, anywhere I want just not home”—-bc Joe thru Allison a party at her home?!
Lia
2024-04-13 13:19:06 +0000 UTCmy least favorite taylor song is definitely ME! but I also hate willow
rebecca irene
2024-04-10 02:29:55 +0000 UTCI don't think that just because the songs are on this playlist mean they have to be about Joe.
Sarah
2024-04-09 22:33:23 +0000 UTCI think ending the first playlist with Bejeweled could be Taylor Easter egging that “her last word” is missing from the other four playlists. I think she’ll add 1 song from TTPD to conclude each playlist and show her journey of healing through the album
Maddy
2024-04-09 15:54:52 +0000 UTCIf it makes Gabby feel better my husband and I had a choreographed dance to Lover for our first dance 💀🤣
Nicole
2024-04-09 12:41:41 +0000 UTCWHY did she say “your finger on my HAIR PIN trigger” in TGW??? Why say hair pin???? If all of her deep seemingly gaylor songs end up just being about joe i will be so disappointed ….
Chloe
2024-04-09 01:41:13 +0000 UTCLove the episode! Maybe invisible string being on the “I can do it with a broken heart” playlist is how she was performing this song on the tour even though they had already broken up?
Daydreamer
2024-04-08 16:18:36 +0000 UTCThis was such a great episode. Thank you! 100% agreed re Invisible String. Also loved the idea of the first and last songs being most relevant to each playlist and the last songs being transitional. 100% agree w you re bejeweled. Love having both your and Gabbie’s takes! I mainly agreed with you both, and when you disagreed I felt like you or Gabbie said what I was thinking. So satisfying. Cam your point about “begin again” should not end the Acceptance playlist - perfection. I agree it makes acceptance smaller if it’s only moving on bc of having someone new. *****I have a couple contributions: 1. One brilliant aspect of the playlists thing, to me, that I’ve not seen anyone say is this: imagine you wrote your most definitive love songs for a person, openly calling them the person you want to marry. You break up, but then have to keep singing those songs under that veil, or banner. How uncomfortable to sing public declarations for someone after you’ve moved on, unless you could reframe them as with these playlists ... from a symbol of the love and loss of Joe, into a symbol of Taylors own growth. I think it’s brilliant. It changes how we see her perform them, and makes room for the “real” love to be as yet unsung about - those songs still yet available to her to be written. That said it should not take away from anyone’s love of Lover or its meaning as a wedding first dance song. The song is truly a love song - the love felt real to her when she wrote it. But in hindsight she knows that in real life, she was missing/ignoring some red flags about Joe. True of any song we might attach to a person we later realize wasn’t right for us. She’s allowing her own music to have different interpretations by showing us they can mean something different even to her, at different points in life. I think it’s brilliant. ALSO Creatively: it’s allowing her to subtly unpack the coded messages in folklore evermore and midnights. I bet that’s creatively satisfying too. AND a great setup for TTPD - what if the new album treads in these waters but perhaps most of all picks up where acceptance leaves off? If, as so many say, we already got the coded relationship struggle/breakup albums in folklore, evermore and midnights- to Cam's point, maybe these playlists are to help set us up for TTPD .. while I'm sure TTPD has a few songs in the thick of the relationship and stages of grief, maybe that album is ultimately actually going to be more about reclaiming yourself and that exciting sense of self-discovery once you’ve moved THROUGH those stages of grief and are on the other side. Maybe TTPD picks up where Breathe leaves off...."I have to breathe without you...I'm sorry" ******2.. renegade : what better place to tell the truth about Joe than on someone else’s album, during a time when she couldn’t, herself? He WAS shattered I bet after Billy Lynn’s long halftime walk flopped. It was his big break - directed by Ang Lee and the studio pushed Joe as the next big thing (I know, I worked on it and personally wrote one of the docs recommending it) - he had a profile in rolling stone etc. he WAS being strategically positioned to have a “big reputation” - Then - SPLAT. He and taylor worked well at first prob bc both were at career low points. Plus whatever other baggage he felt. Then his career had failure to launch. So she spoke well of him every chance she got, “used her best colors for his portrait” while he spiraled as you said into the depression he referenced in the CWF interview. I have been in a relationship with someone who envied my success and weaponized my love and admiration for him via benign neglect and lack of affection and the occasional missile too to make himself feel more equal by making me feel small. And demolished. So that’s my two cents there!! “Fictional” albums aside, Our girl had to let it out somewhere. Renegade was that outlet I think. ******* 3, ALSO right along with you on the Toldja So sentiment! ESP re Lavender Haze. That was Taylor talking herself into accepting not being married after having been so blatant about wanting to marry him earlier on. I may have more but those three points were top of mind after listening. GREAT analysis, thank you!! So excited to be on the TTPD journey with you.
EntGirl
2024-04-08 12:34:52 +0000 UTCWe always talk about how Gaylors have been so right and actually reading the lyrics and trying to understand what she's writing about and I think these playlists are Taylor saying to everyone else "listen to and read the words I've been saying all along" - she's laying it out for them because they buy so much into her mistruths that she needs to show them behind the curtain
Molly Bunn
2024-04-08 09:36:43 +0000 UTC
