Hey Little Song Bird thru Why We Build The Wall [UNEDITED]
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I found myself wondering too, after he asked - actual style words aside (but thank you for those even so, it's cool to know!), I wonder if the word teasing his brain was "amphora," the type of vase that we so often find this art painted on. That's the word my brain kept trying to find when he mentioned it XD
Bean of Glory
2024-11-26 21:48:53 +0000 UTCNice catch of the dinner bell! I always heard it as a creepy sound but never made that connection to *why* it was creepy - until you said that! ❤️
Bean of Glory
2024-11-26 21:35:45 +0000 UTCI love your empathy for "villainous" (or antagonistic, or just plain desperate) situations, e.g. saying that you understand choices that Eurydice makes for hunger similarly to Scylla's choices. I think that folks forget: everyone is a person with motivations (instead of a trope with a built-in good/neutral/evil alignment). Even in fiction. Especially in well written fiction. We make the best choices that we think we can make in a given situation. Those choices might look bad to us later. They might look bad to others now. But we think it's the best we can do, so we do it.
Bean of Glory
2024-11-26 21:34:32 +0000 UTCAt my most recent watch of Hadestown a little over a week ago I made the decision that I would set that as my 1 year mark to get a Hades tattoo. The way I get around tattoo regret is I tell myself whenever I have a plan, from the time I make the plan, give it a year, then get it. I can't get the full sleeve because I work for an airline and they have a policy on tattoos but I can do whatever I want to my bicep area so I'm gonna get the design as far down as I can
Zane C
2024-11-24 01:10:12 +0000 UTCAlso a fun fact, "Why We Build the Wall" (and the musical in general) was conceived before the whole border walls situation. But the show is explicitly referencing anti-immigration policies with the concept of the River Styx keeping out "poverty" and those who haven't earned the "right" to be there (represented by Orpheus.) Hadestown is one of my favorite pieces of antifascist and anticapitalist media of all time.
Catherine Jones
2024-11-19 03:36:35 +0000 UTCIt's actually the opposite, the fates are telling the audience that they can blame Eurydice all they want, but they're not hungry, and they can keep their principles so long as their stomachs are full. They're telling us we'd have done the same as her if we were starving, because hunger makes people do things they wouldn't do any other time. And they're right. A lot of people would have blamed Eurydice for not choosing Orpheus, but starvation makes you crazy. It's the same principle from Mutiny. People can blame Eurylochus all they want for the cows, but they hadn't eaten in days at least, maybe a week, and that type of hungry makes you irrational and crazy.
Catherine Jones
2024-11-19 03:25:55 +0000 UTCSeeing the musical live is a complete and whole experience. The band is sitting in the bar (stage) with the chorus and the trombone player (Brian Drye) even comes to dance with the cast in the song Livin’ it Up on Top. I saw the original cast twice before Amber Grey (Persephone) left which was much earlier than the rest of the cast. Though André DeShields was absent the second time I saw it. 🥲 I have heard that Jordan Fisher has been great replacement for Reeve Carney though I am not a big fan of Jordan for reasons that aren’t important right now, (though they are relevant) I have heard a few of his songs from the show and he is pretty good just very different sounding from the album. Jordan’s range is no where in the ball park of Reeve’s but he did still sound good. If you have an opportunity to see the show please do. It is an incredible experience! Until next time songbirds. 🌺
Alexander Foster
2024-11-16 06:55:53 +0000 UTCHe also played the Green Goblin in the original cast of the spider man musical (I don’t remember the name of it) and Reeve Carney was spiderman who plays Orpheus.
Alexander Foster
2024-11-16 06:39:04 +0000 UTCAlso! voice of hades is the voice of frollo from hunchback of notre dame! Hellfireeeee!!!
Ratatosk Clarke
2024-11-07 06:11:20 +0000 UTCSo the art style is either called greek red-figure or black-figure painting. Black-figure painting was first, and it was basically they would paint in black onto red clay, so figures would be black and the background would be the red of the clay. But then as artistry evolved red-figure painting became more popular, where the background is painted black and the figures are left in the red color of the clay. Its typical for those kinds of paintings to be on pottery used for many different things such as Storage: pithoi, pelikes, hydriae, and stamnos. Mixing: Kraters, dinos, and kyathos Drinking: Kylixes, kantharoi, and phiale Cosmetics/luxuries: Lekythos, aryballos, alabastron, and askos. Sorry this was long and unnecessary I’m just a classics archaeology nerd and have been doing a bunch of essays on greek pottery for class.
Ratatosk Clarke
2024-11-07 05:43:09 +0000 UTCLoved the whiskers percussion explanation. Made me think of a cat and the motion made me think of a the cat circling his prey... In this case, a little bird
Nahi
2024-10-28 04:41:40 +0000 UTCHadestown isn't trying to be a faithful, literal adaptation of the Orpheus and Eurydice myth. It's a retelling for a modern audience with layers of additional themes (e.g.: capitalism) that weren't in the original story. If you're looking at it as a direct *interpretation* of the myths, I think you're going to get stuck on the details/semantics or likely to lose the spirit of the musical, which is a complete story in and of itself using the *symbolism* of Hades/Persephone, Orpheus/Eurydice, to weave a cohesive story that goes beyond the Greek myth (and yet maintains the spirit of oral storytelling in such a beautiful way).
liminalpsych
2024-10-26 02:28:52 +0000 UTCI haven't watched your reaction past "Gone, I'm gone" but what's so wonderful about Little Songbird is how it can be interpeted several ways simultaneously! Some I've thought of: 1. Eurydice succumbs to starvation and the cold winter winds. Supposedly right before death from hypothermia, there is a sense of euphoria and then it's like falling asleep/fading (the temptation to give up and fall asleep being the call of death/Hades) 2. Eurydice is killed by a "viper" as in the original tale, represented by Hades 3. Eurydice, who is starving and has always had to fight for resources, is offered a life where she is no longer constantly hungry and can finally stop struggling ("lay down forever") in exchange for giving up Orpheus and forever remaining within the "protective" walls of Hadestown. 4. Arguably, there is also this sexual undertone of Eurydice being seduced/taken advantage of by a much older man who has no true romantic interest in her but wants to make his wife jealous, because she has been seemingly abandoned by her husband and Hades is offering her comfort in exchange (in this interpretation) for sex. 5. Capitalism. I won't explain further because spoilers at this point in watching. With these interpretations, I don't necessarily think that the musical is blaming Eurydice, but asking us to empathize with her and understand. If she dies, she's blameless - it's understandable why she would fade away from cold/starvation/snakebite (the flesh has its way by being unable to withstand those). If she chooses to go to Hadestown, it's because she could not longer bring herself to have faith in Orpheus when she's on the verge of starving (fair), and someone offers her a way for her to get what she wants (to be sheltered, to be harbored, to lay down) but because of what Hades is/represents, that wish is twisted in the worst monkey's paw way. Hades is taking advantage of her youth and desperation. (The flesh has its way, rather than her heart) When the Fates say "Wouldn't you have done the same in her shoes...You can have your principles when you've got a belly full!" they are challenging the audience, implying that judging Eurydice is hypocritical if you haven't been in the same place. (I also firmly believe that most of the time the Fates represent characters' deepest insecurities and sometimes the harsh forces they face (like the wind), but when they face the audience like in this song they are acting like their "true" selves, but that's a discussion for another time.)
Coleybug
2024-10-25 00:02:32 +0000 UTCWe had a special treat on Saturday..was at musical con and the special guest star was Andre de shields, the Hermes that you are hearing. He originated Hermes. The most special thing he sung for us.
Liz Lilliman
2024-10-23 23:36:51 +0000 UTCI wouldn't say that she chose to "die" in this version, I would say that she chose to go to Hades for the promised comfort of food and a job, rather than suffering with Orpheus and waiting for an unknown future. The metaphors can get a bit muddy in this version. Cause like, we all know as the audience that Hades/the underworld are for dead people only... And going there means your dead. But they kinda skirt that line in this. Eurydice takes the coin to pain for her train fare down to Hadestown... Is that her dying??? Maybe? Kinda? Yes? But I don't feel like it was meant to be a suicide... More like moving to another city that just happens to be in the underworld. Anyway lol... This is just my interpretation, obviously.
Lauren Groen
2024-10-23 04:46:09 +0000 UTC"girl same" 😂😂 it's the deep voice lol
Lauren Groen
2024-10-23 03:58:23 +0000 UTCIs not as literal or similar to the myth, the rattle Snake is a reference and metaphorical to Hades. But is not like death, she choose to go to work with Hades, is not literal death, is metaphorical. The gold is for the train fee. She doesn't die or choose death.
José Antonio Gómez Rodríguez
2024-10-23 02:05:20 +0000 UTCChat i think hes mad at me /j
VannahBloom
2024-10-22 21:18:34 +0000 UTCAhhh!! So stoked for this!! For me, this musical is a big metaphor about capitalism and the lengths ppl have to go to meet basic needs. It’s all good and fine to want art and music but food and shelter have to come first. And the tragedy is because of powers out of her control Eurydice stayed for love and art (despite herself) and her human needs weren’t met. So to me the choice to “go to hell” is similar to the choice to like, get a shitty factory job. Something that offers to fix all your problems but just sucks you dry. Beautiful haunting metaphor about capitalism and class struggles.
Broody Gaming
2024-10-22 19:09:42 +0000 UTCThe singers of the Fates are the magnificent Yvette Gonzalez-Nacer (soprano 1), Kay Trinidad (soprano 2), and Jewelle Blackman (alto). YUP the walls opening up is one of those "Holy shit" moments. I love this animatic, and I'm so happy it's getting attention thanks to you and Mortius. You're right that WWBTW has a lot in common with certain folk styles, but the one I thought of is this American folk song called "Hole in the Bucket." Like this song, it loops around at the end, essentially saying they can't fix the hole in the bucket because of the hole in the bucket. This is, like, the evil version of that.
Amy Golightly
2024-10-22 17:37:46 +0000 UTCThat wait for me animatic is by far the most accurate to the actual costume/concept design from the musical, I didn’t know it existed until I saw Mortius reaction and I was stunned !!!
Kitty A. León
2024-10-22 17:25:28 +0000 UTCAs far as I know, those greek pots are called vases (Greek vase painting), in general, I know that each has a name of its own depending on the shape and or its function, but short answer, VASES. I loved your r/a btw!!!!! ✨✨✨
Kitty A. León
2024-10-22 17:01:07 +0000 UTCThat was the correct reaction to Orpheus opening the wall, my friend! Immediate chills, every time.
Deb
2024-10-22 16:46:00 +0000 UTCYou’re right in that in the show cannon, Eurydice chooses to go to Hades’ domain to escape the fate she’s trapped in —slowly starving to death. I really like that change, I think it gives her character agency and I think the choice she made is totally understandable given the circumstances she’s in. But I totally understand your opinion as well. I’m curious if you’ll still feel that way as you finish act one and start going through act two, I hope you address your thoughts about that change again :)
octo
2024-10-22 16:30:47 +0000 UTCThat eury to eury one 🤣🤣
Phoenix Mackenzie
2024-10-22 16:00:06 +0000 UTCI love your reaction to Hades. I remember when i first listened to the cast recording Hades voice unnerved me. I still get chills from his low notes. Dont let Mortius know if you defend Eurydice, he might use it against you to defend Eurylochus. 😂 I hope you have a safe trip to Chicago!
logicaldreamer
2024-10-22 15:38:33 +0000 UTCHave fun! Wish I lived closer to Chicago to support you, mortius and Teagan!
KarmaStratus18
2024-10-22 14:33:32 +0000 UTCI've been looking forward to this, I hope you enjoy yourself!
Kory Misun
2024-10-22 14:25:20 +0000 UTC
