Sacred Symbols, Episode 345 | You Keep It Copacetic
Added 2025-02-07 17:00:16 +0000 UTC
When truly great games are delivered, players tend to respond. The industry's newest sales success is the long-awaited Kingdom Come: Deliverance sequel, which immediately sold a million copies upon release. But it's hardly alone. And the rest of this long year is already shaping up to be something special, with Metal Gear Solid Delta's release date leaking, Death Stranding 2's newest trailer drawing nearer, and EA's Battlefield finally toying with a real comeback. Other news this week includes the potential of a discless PlayStation 6, the arrival of more Xbox games on PS5 in the form of Age of Empires and Age of Mythology, Capcom's announcement of a port of PS2's Onimusha 2 for PlayStation 4, and more. Let's then round things out with listener inquiries, as is our tradition. What are our thoughts on the return of games media brand Rooster Teeth? Is Sony putting its own games on sale too quickly and too steeply, to its own detriment? Did EA executives really claim Dragon Age: The Veilguard failed because it wasn't live service? Will Colin ever recover from tendinitis, or are his weightlifting days over?
Timestamps:
0:00:00 - Intro
0:23:28 - Side Quest is back!
0:29:11 - Colin's tendinitis
0:32:14 - George's bush
0:48:41 - Career switching advice
0:57:39 - Why is Abby tiny?
1:06:19 - Shaun Layden thinks PlayStation will keep physical for PS6
1:12:25 - Metal Gear Solid Delta release date leaked
1:17:31 - Death Stranding 2 is rated in South Korea
1:21:42 - KCD2 sells one million in one day
1:27:25 - New Battlefield game by early 2026
1:34:43 - MultiVersus is going offline
1:42:13 - Devil May Cry remake coming?
1:49:04 - Prince of Persia The Lost Crown sold 1.3 million copies
1:50:02 - Konami churned $500 million in profit over 9 months
1:51:06 - Sony integrates SN Systems
1:52:11 - What Are We Playing?
2:31:06 - Age of Mythology is coming to PS5
2:38:03 - Onimusha 2 is being remasted
2:46:00 - Rooster Teeth's return
2:57:37 - Should PlayStation stop putting their games on sale?
3:06:17 - Will Sony stop releasing on PC?
3:13:42 - Sony's live service push concerning for the industry?
3:16:28 - Is EA crazy?
3:23:38 - Is new IP overvalued?
Dustin, about the Age Of games on console: they have mouse and keyboard support on Xbox, and presumably will on PS5 as well
Gabriel Baker
2025-02-13 07:10:11 +0000 UTC
Holy fuck druckman is a fucking DOOOOUUUUCHE
Hunter Flaherty
2025-02-11 21:21:58 +0000 UTC
Dustin wanting DSi XL instead of a 3DS XL for playing DS games is so wild to me
Macro
2025-02-10 08:15:13 +0000 UTC
Yeah I’m pretty strong and even at my strongest I wouldn’t go more than 30 for curls. Up the reps not the weight on that one if you want more. And curls are easy to lose form if you use too much weight.
Zack E
2025-02-09 23:02:25 +0000 UTC
No we aren't, we don't care about about using other launchers or logins, just the ones that have a clear history of going down for an extended period of time. I bought helldivers 2 on steam so why should I be locked out of the game if Sony's entire network goes down like it did Friday to Saturday and it will again.
Arkvoodle's sacred crotch
2025-02-09 22:55:32 +0000 UTC
@Dustin how does one soft mod an SD card for a DSI? Asking for a friend….
Cormac
2025-02-09 22:46:06 +0000 UTC
Trying to manifest a Dante’s Inferno remaster/remake.
This Guy
2025-02-09 19:51:45 +0000 UTC
nah pc players are jsut cry babies. I bought Ghost on pc and the psn login was so fucking easy it literally took less then two mins.
it's not an issue with xbox or anyone else just Sony for these people
KItty Crew
2025-02-09 19:30:17 +0000 UTC
One of the worst castings I’ve ever seen for a show with source material to reference. It’s made even worse than Katelyn Dever looks far more like Ellie than Bella does and you almost laugh. You have Ellie playing Abby in TLOU. Make it make sense
The Rose Experience
2025-02-09 19:25:11 +0000 UTC
Ya, this. For someone Colin’s size and length of time working out, 40lbs on curls just isn’t appropriate and it’s likely happening either way bad form. Lower the weight, perfect the technique and get better results.
The Rose Experience
2025-02-09 19:23:43 +0000 UTC
Also, I’m astounded at the defense of Neil with his description of the Abby casting. Bella Ramey is a disaster as Ellie and when your actor for Abby looks more like Ellie than your Ellie one does you have a problem.
I mean, Abby’s size is as integral to who she is in the game than anything. It embodies everything about her, without her muscles mass what’s the point? The character is as much her impressive size as it is her motivation and Neil hand waving that with the flimsy excuse he used was laughable.
The further I get from the show the less I like it, it isn’t very good. Everytime it mimics the game scene for scene the game is just so much better and more importantly, acted better. The casting just doesn’t work and when you already have a template for how your characters look, intentionally deviating from that just takes away from the watch ability for fans familiar with the source material.
The Rose Experience
2025-02-09 19:21:06 +0000 UTC
Ya, the hate against DmC was embarrassing and it’s a legitimately great game. It’s my 3rd fave in the franchise behind 3 and 5 and it took the story in an interesting direction. Some of the stage design were immensely impressive and it deserved a sequel with how they were building to Vergil in the game and DLC. Ninja Theory did a great job.
The Rose Experience
2025-02-09 19:17:28 +0000 UTC
The inability for the crew to admit that games absolutely fail due to “woke” aspects is kind of impressive. Dragon Age almost explicitly failed as a game due to this, that’s a fact. The main drivers of the game were YouTubers who almost entirely were against the game contrary to what Chris is wrongfully implying. That’s who EA was counting on to push the game and it didn’t work. Even the staunchest Dragon Age fans, and despite Colin’s assertion the franchise did HAVE many, spoke out against Veilguard and its abomination of writing and characters.
I’m not sure why the crew can’t just let themselves embrace the fact that gamers are rejecting this outright and while it might not be as widespread of the bad faith messengers try and push, it’s definitely a big factor that is hurting sales. I remember Chris insinuating that Concord’s failure wasn’t due to “wokeness” or whatever you want to call it and it unequivocally did! Also, the assertion that no one can even describe it is laughable, everyone knows what it is, what it looks and sounds like and it’s lazy to just muuhhh cause gays are in it! No, that’s not the reason, it’s the agenda above everything which Concord and DA Veilguard are.
The Rose Experience
2025-02-09 19:14:42 +0000 UTC
Came for the PlayStation talk, Stayed for the perspectives on the religious experience
Ben Haner
2025-02-09 16:09:35 +0000 UTC
Bro her arms were the size of MEN who lift regularly. Tell me you’ve never worked out without telling me.
WashedAF
2025-02-09 12:24:52 +0000 UTC
My take on pc ports:
- Pc ports are not good for playstation exclusives because when ps5 was first detailed. Mark Cerny gave a lot of emphasis in the ssd. The ssd and the io performance is top notch and used to make unique experiences as he mentioned.
Now, while developing the games you can’t do quick loading game mechanics if you want to support a broad range of pc’s. Even if the games are requiring speedy ssds it ultimately doesn’t matter because the game will still work on slower than required storage solutions.
With all that inconsideration pc release stagnates new and unique technologies on the consoles.
Drew
2025-02-09 12:23:18 +0000 UTC
The write-in that called Colin out on his GamePass derangement syndrome was 100% correct
WashedAF
2025-02-09 12:23:06 +0000 UTC
Chris has said he hates her too before, thought he'd bring that up when Colin said she was great.
Joseph Gedgaudas
2025-02-09 10:54:48 +0000 UTC
I just paused the podcast and had to look up the FedEx logo. Holy shit, how did I never notice the arrow?!
Criterion
2025-02-09 05:45:18 +0000 UTC
That's why it's good that Sacred has three hosts with three very different styles of playing games. I think it's interesting to look at games from other perspectives rather than just my own. Even though I play games more similarly to Chris most of the time, I still care to hear Colin and Dustin's opinions.
Zac
2025-02-09 05:25:22 +0000 UTC
Interesting! I’m curious how it’ll go for me, because I do intend to keep pushing towards that goal. I’m grateful that I’ll always have a fall-back plan.
CrazedRaccoon
2025-02-09 03:05:51 +0000 UTC
Correct as well. I meant to mention that as well that increasing the weights by 2.5 at a time will prevent this as well
The Devmeister
2025-02-09 02:19:38 +0000 UTC
40 is crazy work. Work up to it, your body just isn’t used to it. Muscle comes back in form quick
Markeus
2025-02-09 00:17:51 +0000 UTC
I meant a vinyl, but fair enough.
Diddy’s Dong Quest
2025-02-08 23:37:14 +0000 UTC
What’s so unrealistic about that body type? There are toned, muscular woman all around. So doesn’t seem that unlikely that over several years a character could bulk up.
Daniel E
2025-02-08 23:28:42 +0000 UTC
The DMC reboot is my absolute fave of the franchise, one of my favourite games, love the style, love THAT Dante. So disappointed they just went back to the other one
Simon
2025-02-08 22:43:48 +0000 UTC
For the Aerospace Engineer write in- I am also an Aerospace Engineer, and I actually did switch to game dev for a year at That’s No Moon. I found out that game dev really isn’t for me, and I came back to Aerospace. I now have my work, and enjoy playing games after work.
MollyMog
2025-02-08 21:45:36 +0000 UTC
I bought a used CD of Dark Side of the Moon for $5.
Haru Discourse
2025-02-08 21:26:41 +0000 UTC
DMC5 is sublime. Shout to to Dustin for putting respect on it.
Cameron
2025-02-08 20:30:35 +0000 UTC
Definitely. I was playing it on ps5 pro as well.
Shane Sperry
2025-02-08 18:47:18 +0000 UTC
That makes sense, thanks for that context. I was like I said still looking forward to playing through it but gave up. Just kept falling through the geography.
Shane Sperry
2025-02-08 18:46:49 +0000 UTC
There’s something wrong with Mafia 2. I’m on a PS5 Pro and the game crashed several times within the first hour. I had to put it down.
Jimmy G
2025-02-08 18:28:49 +0000 UTC
Here’s why people don’t like the Abby casting.
For the game - people criticized the unrealistic body type of Abby. ND acted like people were bigots and sexist for pointing that out.
When it came to finding a real life person to fill that role - they couldn’t find it. The body type is completely unrealistic.
They then come up with an excuse for why they couldn’t cast the actual body type.
Uvula Smack
2025-02-08 18:18:47 +0000 UTC
A Polestar is basically just a Volvo. I have one as a company car and it’s lovely!
Russell Garrett
2025-02-08 18:10:27 +0000 UTC
Mafia 1 Definitive Edition is a PS4 game. It's a complete ground up remake of a PS2 game, but it is a PS4 games for all intents and purposes. Mafia 2 Definitive Edition is a remaster (not a remake) of a PS3 game, so it still looks and plays like a PS3 game. This is why you noticed a downgrade going from Mafia 1 DE to Mafia 2.
Mike Held
2025-02-08 17:54:37 +0000 UTC
I’ll admit I find negative Naughty Dog and Neil discourse annoying and weird - but honestly that was a weird explanation that kinda just made this whole thing worse.
Just leave it as we think this actress is best to portray this character, even if she isn’t exactly the same. No reason to over explain the video game side of it.
Zack E
2025-02-08 17:53:45 +0000 UTC
I played all of Mafia I DE and loved it based off what Colin and Chris was playing. Went straight to Mafia II and the game was such a huge step down in every way. It was weird that it was the sequel and played so much worse than the first. But I was excited to play for the story and ran into too many bugs, one that seemed like I couldn’t get past so I gave up.
Shane Sperry
2025-02-08 17:29:39 +0000 UTC
Also, adding an extra 10 pounds to an exercise is not smart. He increased the weight by 33% going from 30lbs to 40lbs (I think, I'm not good at math). Add 2lbs-5lbs when increasing weight on an exercise. Slowly build up your strength before increasing the weight again.
Mike Held
2025-02-08 17:24:46 +0000 UTC
Thanks, Zack! I am hoping that it will make me a better engineer while also pursuing a dream. Chris is right in that game dev will likely be a side-venture. Keeping myself open, though.
CrazedRaccoon
2025-02-08 17:10:24 +0000 UTC
It’s not that Nintendo games have more cashe , it’s just that if you buy a Nintendo system your only buying it to play thier games because of the lack of high level 3rd party support. Where as with PlayStation their games have to compete with games like gta and red dead. Just more options due to the hardware horse power.
Big titty drinker
2025-02-08 15:29:11 +0000 UTC
I think there’s a solid argument to be made that Steam has eviscerated the perception of value with game prices. If a 10/10 high budget game is 10 years old, why is it that the expectation is it should be $5?If I go into a record shop today and buy a copy of Dark Side of the Moon (new OR used) it’ll be expensive. But it’s freaking Dark Side! It’s of high quality and should be priced that way perpetually.
Diddy’s Dong Quest
2025-02-08 15:01:32 +0000 UTC
Yeah, it sounds like he got fed up with rate of progress and jumped the gun. No way he’s curling 40’s for more than 2-3 reps. That’s not a workout.
Jimmer
2025-02-08 14:22:37 +0000 UTC
Some people get so perplexed that others only care about the game part of games.
Jimmer
2025-02-08 14:20:41 +0000 UTC
Yeah, it's absurd. Why would people assume the studio that prominently featured transgender children in their last game is making decisions based on DEI?
Jimmer
2025-02-08 14:17:28 +0000 UTC
Doctor of Physical Therapy here, this is the correct advice. You shouldn't be strengthening the same body part more than 3x a week at the absolute maximum, and you need a day of rest in-between as well. Also stretch after your workouts.
Shadi Haddad
2025-02-08 07:29:32 +0000 UTC
I'm a personal trainer also and he speaks facts. For bench press your 40lb dumbbells are probably a good weight but for curls this is too heavy.
Murderer Kevin
2025-02-08 07:04:32 +0000 UTC
Touching on the PSN sign in requirement, PC gamers don't want to sign into another service that has to have a constant connection to work, especially Sony who has a history of service outages like today 2-8-24.
Arkvoodle's sacred crotch
2025-02-08 06:42:17 +0000 UTC
One of my favorite things now is the George Lucas impersonation. Chris cracks me up every time!
Joey B
2025-02-08 04:31:58 +0000 UTC
Been a long time but I used to have nightmares where I was in finals week at college and realized I never went to a class I signed up for and I suddenly went to take the exam to avoid failing
Joey B
2025-02-08 04:13:52 +0000 UTC
These boys talk so highly of their overpriced Herman whatever chairs just for them to squeal like a stuck pig coming through the mics any time they turn 😅 I reckon I’ll stick with my Secretlab
Adam Barnes
2025-02-08 04:06:45 +0000 UTC
Funny you guys discussed Devil May Cry, just beat DMC1 and am playing through DMC 3 right now! Very excited to blast through the rest of the series this year. DMC V was so awesome, can’t wait to finally get back to it.
Ryan Harvey
2025-02-08 02:52:07 +0000 UTC
I’ve no issues with people 0laying games like that play games however you like to play them. But I wouldn’t really care about there opinion on the game if they are talking about them on a podcast as every aspect of a game is important to me and if they haven’t experienced that for me there opinion doesn’t really matter.
Garry
2025-02-08 02:13:05 +0000 UTC
"Grab me with some authority" is an all time Colin quote.
Heretic The Intergalactic Prophet
2025-02-08 01:31:06 +0000 UTC
The distaste for Intergalactic is just the whiners who say it’s DEI or whatever cause she’s…. A girl I guess? Who knows.
Robert Graham
2025-02-08 01:19:12 +0000 UTC
I laughed when Dustin said ‘George bush’ when they were discussing George Washington’s pubes. Chris and Colin didn’t hear him.
Zackizard
2025-02-08 00:55:02 +0000 UTC
Gotta say, not enough Hokage or Kazekages being thrown out in this podcast.
Mateusz Kuklinski
2025-02-08 00:37:53 +0000 UTC
Christ is his last name. First thing you learn in CCD.
Mateusz Kuklinski
2025-02-08 00:37:13 +0000 UTC
Colin keeps referring to the historical Jesus as Jesus Christ, as if Christ is a last name rather than a designation.
Cameron
2025-02-07 23:42:36 +0000 UTC
Starting to feel like AOC could develop a game about transitioning pre-schoolers and LSM would say it failed because of level design.
Jimmer
2025-02-07 23:35:56 +0000 UTC
I took it as Abby was buff because after her dad was murdered, she had 1 goal on her mind at all times, revenge. So she bulked up to literally become a weapon and hunt Joel down. Not sure how that’d translate to the show but it is disappointing to hear Neil’s rationale. Meanwhile, I liked Bella as Ellie for S1 but she already doesn’t look the part for S2.
PS5 Pro not having a disc-drive suggests to me that the PS6 will launch the same way.
Shout out to Burnie and the Rooster Teeth OGs.
Is EA crazy? Yes.
NeO JD
2025-02-07 23:35:17 +0000 UTC
Write in talking about computer science/career change: I mean this with as much respect as possible to our hosts but you are a technical person asking advice from non technical creatives.
Having skills and experience in both aerospace engineering and computer science will probably make you very competitive candidate for many software positions in many domains. You might not end up in game dev, but if you’ve invested time and money in CS (and enjoy it of course) I’d keep consider to just keep going. Just my perspective.
Shoot for the moon, land among stars type of thing (maybe literally for you?)
Zack E
2025-02-07 23:11:31 +0000 UTC
Can't believe they didn't mention our boy Dustin getting traded to the Lakers...
Gavin Kelly
2025-02-07 23:07:43 +0000 UTC
Doing 40lb curls is actually insane if all you’re trying to do is build muscle lol. All you need is like 15-20LBS and do like 3 sets of 20 and then do a drop set until failure to just destroy your arms. Not about how heavy you lift but about form and slowly focusing on contracting the muscle.
Bebo513
2025-02-07 22:15:01 +0000 UTC
I'm totally with Chris on how he plays games. I pretty much skip all story for most of the games I play and once my itch for the gameplay has been scratched I move on to the next thing. Every now and then a story will hook me and I'll pay attention to it, but it's pretty rare. There are even games that I love the story, but my itch has been scratched when it comes to the gameplay and I'll drop it and come back maybe even years later to finish it.
Zac
2025-02-07 22:03:27 +0000 UTC
Yeah I’m a personal trainer with over a decade of experience. Colin 40s are way too heavy for curls. I’m a big guy (225 lbs at 5’11”) and I can deadlift and squat over 400 lbs respectively. I only use 15-20-25lbs DBs for curls. For arm growth it’s about mechanical tension and contraction quality.
When your body speaks - listen, injuries happen due to overuse and compensatory patterns. Means the arm is no longer relying solely on the biceps brachii to move the elbows, as it’s too much weight, tendons and ligaments are being pulled into the fold and strained there inflammation happens to protect them. AKA tendinitis.
The Devmeister
2025-02-07 21:08:49 +0000 UTC
I’ve been listening to these guys for too long… as soon as they started talking about how you don’t really notice logos after a while I knew Chris would bring up FedEx 😅
Adam Barnes
2025-02-07 21:06:19 +0000 UTC
She's horrible...
Jason
2025-02-07 20:48:02 +0000 UTC
I’d rather be shot than tickled.
Edit: Chris, at least finish Space Marine 2. Christ.
Noah Friscopp
2025-02-07 20:38:44 +0000 UTC
lol that’s what I was thinking too.
Mateusz Kuklinski
2025-02-07 20:31:44 +0000 UTC
If they are from the sand village, shouldn’t the be calling Dustin kazekage?
SofreetoBandito
2025-02-07 20:22:45 +0000 UTC
We back
Robbie Agnew
2025-02-07 20:15:20 +0000 UTC
Leave it to Chris to pick the worst Far Cry game... Don't sleep on Far Cry 4. It holds up incredibly well on PC at modern framerate and resolution.
Mike Held
2025-02-07 20:11:11 +0000 UTC
Man I still dislike the hbo version of Ellie. Something about her just always seems so forced to me and I always feel like she looks 10 years old
Big titty drinker
2025-02-07 20:07:08 +0000 UTC
If your arms are truly as skinny as you say, then 40lbs curls is way too much. 25-30lbs is the sweet spot for average dudes. Just increase your reps if you feel it’s too light. Trust the process.
Tanner Denso
2025-02-07 19:30:42 +0000 UTC
Yes, very dangerous. Recipe for a torn bicep. Also, Colin: most people don't use the same amount of weight for all exercises. Different weight for different exercises. Not just 40lbs for everything.
Mike Held
2025-02-07 19:17:42 +0000 UTC
Brad too and Lock of course
Deemac
2025-02-07 19:09:53 +0000 UTC
I have very similar dreams to Colin’s. They’re called stress dreams. In mine, I’m back in high school and I have the wrong colored socks for my football game. Always wake up sweaty as hell from them.
Tanner Denso
2025-02-07 19:06:28 +0000 UTC
you're DEFINITELY bound for the floor
Eric the human
2025-02-07 19:00:13 +0000 UTC
Bound to the floor lyric! Shout out to Local H
SIR_K_Daddy
2025-02-07 18:10:32 +0000 UTC
Thanks for the advice, sacred daddies
CrazedRaccoon
2025-02-07 18:07:53 +0000 UTC
Thanks! I learned a new word today!
Stu Pedasso
2025-02-07 18:05:17 +0000 UTC
Seconding the statement that 40Lbs is a lot for curls.
John
2025-02-07 18:01:00 +0000 UTC
We should do a constellation episode just on religion
Logan Price
2025-02-07 17:59:08 +0000 UTC
Just a heads up Colin. Orthodoxy is not derived from Catholicism. The Orthodox kept the traditions and teachings of Christ since he ascended I believe.
james glenn roten
2025-02-07 17:56:03 +0000 UTC
A. This isn’t working
B. This is pivotal
Tristan Kimball
2025-02-07 17:42:17 +0000 UTC
Matty and Cog are playing.
Eemi
2025-02-07 17:39:52 +0000 UTC
Those pussy deflectors are on point.
Forrest Hunter
2025-02-07 17:39:11 +0000 UTC
Shut up dork
Scott
2025-02-07 17:39:11 +0000 UTC
Just looking at the thumbnail, you can tell this is gonna be the best Sacred Symbols ever
SpectreBull
2025-02-07 17:21:04 +0000 UTC
Man, no one is playing KCD2
Vanzant
2025-02-07 17:19:22 +0000 UTC
and you learn to accept it you know you're so pathetic
Eric the human
2025-02-07 17:15:59 +0000 UTC
cuz 10 minutes of tickle talk
four24twenty
2025-02-07 17:15:49 +0000 UTC
lol the one time I guess I have to watch the video version instead
Mattveego
2025-02-07 17:13:01 +0000 UTC
Horrifying Headbands
Joe B
2025-02-07 17:08:33 +0000 UTC
Best episode yet!!!
I cast Lvl 10 back pain with constant sneezing
2025-02-07 17:01:34 +0000 UTC