Summon Sign, Episode 53 | Our 2024 Games of the Year
Added 2024-12-31 17:00:05 +0000 UTC
On this very special episode of Summon Sign, Brad and the crew discuss their favorite games of the year and their most anticipated games of 2025. Strap in.
Timestamps:
0:00:00 - Brad, Colin and Dustin
01:44:43 - Matty and Cog
03:02:49 - Chris and Gene
04:46:44 - Lock, Ben and Micah
Shit take..
Not a Sexbot..
2025-01-15 17:51:07 +0000 UTC
The lack of Ghosts 2 and Death Stranding 2 in Chris’s list is baffling.
Robbie Agnew
2025-01-10 18:52:48 +0000 UTC
Great episode but Micah is Insufferable. Sorry Colin
Robbie Agnew
2025-01-10 18:52:08 +0000 UTC
These Sacred Boys + Brad have a weak, weak anticipated games lists. No Doom or Fable in their top 5s. Those are some weak lists boys.
Mr. Scott If You're Nasty
2025-01-07 11:29:48 +0000 UTC
Ya boi
Robbie Agnew
2025-01-06 19:30:15 +0000 UTC
Take a shot for “ostensibly” and enjoy the sweet embrace of liver failure after a paragraph.
Teddy
2025-01-06 18:57:26 +0000 UTC
Agreed
Robbie Agnew
2025-01-06 18:28:45 +0000 UTC
Was hoping Jaffe was gonna be part of this at some point. He plays so much I’ve never even heard of.
Stevie Q
2025-01-06 09:26:43 +0000 UTC
Colin giving Kunitsu-Game #2, that's my dog!
Gr8S
2025-01-05 03:56:29 +0000 UTC
The only thing you spoil for me Gene is with your awesome presence and I enjoy every podcast you've been on here!
Joey B
2025-01-04 23:56:50 +0000 UTC
Fantastic episode, well done Brad!
Teddy
2025-01-04 20:30:32 +0000 UTC
I am shellshocked to hear a Sigur Ros reference from Gene.
Ben Fairbanks
2025-01-04 17:59:46 +0000 UTC
Take a shot every time Chris says “feels like” and “vibes”
Ahlickaloo
2025-01-04 16:18:47 +0000 UTC
I hear ya! I tried Persona 5 for a good 20 hours and it was just god awful. I’m so confused what people love about them. Oh well. Not all games need to be for me 🤷
Del Griffith
2025-01-04 04:23:04 +0000 UTC
The mispronouncing of Oregon trail hurt my ears
I must be one of the few that doesn't care about GTA. I have 0 interest and will zone out when anyone talks about it.
Wayde
2025-01-04 00:14:32 +0000 UTC
I appreciate it for what it is, but also think it's incredibly overhyped
Brian
2025-01-03 17:03:49 +0000 UTC
This made me want to create my own 2024 list, featuring games I played, not released.
10. TLoZ, Echoes of Wisdom
9. Celeste
8. Vampire Survivors
7. Control
6. Lies of P
5. Alan Wake II
4. Resident Evil 4 Remake
3. Elden Ring
2. Astro Bot
1. Final Fantasy Rebirth
Some i’ve left out are Red Dead Redemption, Demon’s Souls Remake, Doom, Rondo of Blood, The Old Hunters (DLC), Crisis Core, INTERmission (DLC), Hitman 1, FF XVI DLC, Ace Attorney 5. Really connected with Bioshock infinite during my platinum playthrough too but had played it before so didn’t include it! Beat Death Stranding for the first time also and didn’t connect with it at all bar the first 10-15 hours.
Cormac
2025-01-03 15:00:30 +0000 UTC
Ninja Blade mentioned.
When will Evergrace and Forever Kingdom be mentioned?
Cameron
2025-01-03 14:28:30 +0000 UTC
Am I the only one who did not like Mouthwashing?
Del Griffith
2025-01-03 14:12:22 +0000 UTC
Made it through the ep—great work all around/Brad!!!
Nick La Creta
2025-01-03 13:52:50 +0000 UTC
Balatro is a top 10 all time game for me. I have about 400hrs in it and no signs of stopping. God bless Dustin for recommending it back in February or March
ajwhite
2025-01-03 09:15:45 +0000 UTC
As a fellow enthusiast of my stinky switch, I understand the desire for a reliable “plug and play” experience. I moved from gaming on Xbox 360 to PC, and it can be frustrating at times. However, Steam and the Steam Deck are surprisingly user-friendly. I hope you enjoy trying the Portal. Thank you for all the great podcasts and for the reply. You guys are my game grumps 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻.
Carter Ellis
2025-01-03 06:58:35 +0000 UTC
Well firstly thank you for the compliment! And I hear you (and Dustin, and Ben, and Brad...) and for Steam Deck specifically I think it boils down to: I simply don't like fiddling with PCs anymore. Here's an example: tonight I looked up a guide to hack my Wii U (long story) and all the comments on the forums said "it's so easy!" but I lost enthusiasm just reading through the instructions. I gotta be honest, ever since I left tech support as a job I have no motivation to do anything that feels like tech support at home. Granted, I do have the fix the printer whenever it breaks but when it comes to my hobbies: I want the plug and play ease of a console because PC isn't a relaxing space for me. Some people enjoy the fiddly aspect of toggling settings and tuning everything in just-so but I find it to be an obstacle.
The PS Portal holds more promise for me and we already have one so Colin can help me get it all setup to try it out and see if I like it. I hope you have a great weekend! :) -Micah (aka stinkyswitch4lyfe)
Mama Micah
2025-01-03 05:59:52 +0000 UTC
I hope so man, was a big fan at first but he just attracts trouble
Daddy T
2025-01-03 02:20:42 +0000 UTC
Colin underestimates the power of a gooner.
Steve
2025-01-03 01:11:02 +0000 UTC
Gotta be honest, I find these sort of comments really gatekeep-y, it's the same whenever Colin talks about it. I too never played the OG game but had an awesome time with Rebirth. Am I missing some references and context for some moments? Of course, but I don't feel lost in the story, and I still was able to follow it in large tbh (outside of typical JRPG fuckery as mentioned in a previous comment).
I feel like hardcore OG fans can never see this side of things - because obviously, they played the original and know the story inside out - so they just shut down new fans and tell them that they didn't understand anything that was going on. But trust me when I say I still enjoyed Rebirth as a new fan and was happy with the story as presented to me. Maybe it's a case where it's a game that appeals to long time fans with all the changes to the OG, nostalgia etc - but can also be enjoyed by newcomers like me. I think that just speaks to what a special game this is. Looking forward to Part 3
Deemac
2025-01-02 23:24:41 +0000 UTC
Same lol, hadn't thought of Sigur Ros in ages but Hoppipolla started playing in my head as soon as Gene mentioned them!
Also Low Roar are Icelandic also so they added those vibes to DS I guess
Deemac
2025-01-02 23:19:12 +0000 UTC
My ears perked up at the mention of Sigur Ros. You’re totally right Gene! Pretty sure the landscape is based of Iceland too
Lemonworld
2025-01-02 22:12:19 +0000 UTC
Wrong, TLOU2 is 100 a 10 out of 10.
Tyler Stafford
2025-01-02 20:57:23 +0000 UTC
I would say Micah is arguably the best when it comes to playing the games she likes? She knows what she likes and sticks to it!
Cormac
2025-01-02 20:11:10 +0000 UTC
I wish Micah would just put a little bit more effort into playing the games she likes. Not trying to be a hater it’s just frustrating for someone who’s talented and intelligent to keep saying they’re “too dumb” or perhaps scared of using a new device like the steam deck.
Carter Ellis
2025-01-02 18:54:07 +0000 UTC
I just cannot get my head around the metaphor love.
My tastes must be off cos I just don’t get it, but I felt the same about the Persona games as well.
Atlus games just don’t hit for me.
Great pod though gang.
Antony
2025-01-02 18:24:44 +0000 UTC
Oh man this episode is GIRTHY I'm so hype
Zac
2025-01-02 18:01:26 +0000 UTC
Love this
Nick
2025-01-02 15:22:49 +0000 UTC
Some people are masochists
Ryan Zimm
2025-01-02 15:01:38 +0000 UTC
About 2/3 thru, great job Brad.
Vito Chiaramonte
2025-01-02 14:47:54 +0000 UTC
Why so short?
Vitaly
2025-01-02 12:03:25 +0000 UTC
Oh god no. It is not a 10 out of 10 game. The graphics are indeed superb, however. The Game? Not a 10/10 game.
Story is a step back from the first one in both direction and content. The controls feel slightly wonky when compared to other shooters. Menu system is god awful to manage and on harder difficulties this can (and did in my playthrough) get you killed. Abby is a better campaign to play even though you may not want to. Ellies is so repetitive it becomes not fun later on. The overall length of the game is ridiculously too long. #endrant
Mr. Scott If You're Nasty
2025-01-02 11:50:49 +0000 UTC
This was great. Finally bit the bullet and bought Baletro based on this podcast - well worth it!
Michael Cook
2025-01-02 08:34:15 +0000 UTC
Holy length batman
easelgames
2025-01-02 07:40:18 +0000 UTC
Longest podcast in lsm history? Incredible
brody_low
2025-01-02 04:07:05 +0000 UTC
Loved this podcast. I'm sure people would like to hear Jaffe's and Hoeg's top games and most anticipated games to.
Josef Barker
2025-01-02 03:53:16 +0000 UTC
No loss
drew
2025-01-01 22:45:05 +0000 UTC
I’m going to be honest, no you didn’t, not if you didn’t play the original. It’s not really about confusion, It’s about tone, the reliance on nostalgia, what changed and why it’s relevant along with much more.
You can still enjoy it, but without all the context of the original you aren’t really going to get the remakes as intended
The Rose Experience
2025-01-01 21:27:19 +0000 UTC
I’m sure we’ll get another episode or two of it. Jaffe, Hoeg, maybe Jason Polanski as well, he’s a cool dude.
RFK Jr. streaming with an anime girl VTuber avatar and his voice pitched up but still wobbly
2025-01-01 20:30:34 +0000 UTC
Amen, got the platinum early this year after not playing it since it first came out on PS2. Loved it.
Dante B
2025-01-01 20:27:32 +0000 UTC
Hopefully Jaffe can tell us his list at some point.
Umkart
2025-01-01 20:14:58 +0000 UTC
Jaffe’s been put on ice
Vanzant
2025-01-01 19:10:46 +0000 UTC
Almost 7 fuvking hours of the LSM boys and lady, let's go!!!
Zack Fair
2025-01-01 18:55:06 +0000 UTC
Jokes on you Dustin! I did replay Ico in 2023, and it still was great.
Joseph Gedgaudas
2025-01-01 17:37:50 +0000 UTC
Skipping over Psychonauts 2 when talking about no great platformers recently is criminal.
Eric Golley
2025-01-01 16:39:53 +0000 UTC
Where Bungie was Sony’s worst acquisition, Brad was LSM’s best get imo love everyone else but Brad’s the man!
Otacon_Ocelot
2025-01-01 15:23:49 +0000 UTC
Colin’s been real quiet since Brad dropped this.
Nathan Yahoo wins prostate lottery
2025-01-01 13:39:32 +0000 UTC
Brad for LSM MVP
Jason H
2025-01-01 12:47:17 +0000 UTC
Fair enough, gooch gobbler. It’s probably the fastest paced episodes of anything I’ve listened to on LSM in general
Muskrat Mike
2025-01-01 11:00:12 +0000 UTC
Awesome episode team. Loved it
Yalingo
2025-01-01 08:32:41 +0000 UTC
Holy shit! Almost 7 hour mega episode. Happy new year, LSM.
Paul Waltz
2025-01-01 05:38:30 +0000 UTC
Can’t believe you just spoiled sonic 3 for me. Definitely unsubbing now
Aran Benton
2025-01-01 01:29:46 +0000 UTC
Brad is a beast
Chaise
2025-01-01 00:28:10 +0000 UTC
Brad just put Colin on notice.
Dexter Wallingsford
2025-01-01 00:17:53 +0000 UTC
I'd go as far as saying that the distinctive quality between a Miyazaki souls game and any other souls-like is the ICO inspired level design
Umberto
2024-12-31 23:59:42 +0000 UTC
Holy shit
Remington Wilson
2024-12-31 23:50:21 +0000 UTC
Oh no I know, don’t worry. You’ve convinced me to buy at least 3 games this year from your reviews and podcasts. People want to hear you talk about games, so ignore the idiots if you can haha.
Cai
2024-12-31 23:40:20 +0000 UTC
Just resubbed just to watch this crazy thing.
Eemi
2024-12-31 23:21:44 +0000 UTC
It’s too much but Miyazaki was inspired to create games due to Ico. Also Ico created the third-person adventure game format that Uncharted and Prince of Persia copied. These guys don’t have to like the game but the disrespect is getting out of hand
Gene Park
2024-12-31 23:15:30 +0000 UTC
Sorry haha i don’t mean to yell at you specifically. I’m just sick of the “gene spoils things” meme when i rarely do.
Gene Park
2024-12-31 23:13:02 +0000 UTC
I've never come just by looking at the length of a podcast, but I have come and cometh, I have and cometh I shall.
Asique Alam
2024-12-31 22:55:30 +0000 UTC
Damn sorry about that. I’m not even at your section yet - just thought it was a funny observation. I didn’t realise people were being so crazy about it. Look forward to hearing what you have to say!
Cai
2024-12-31 22:45:13 +0000 UTC
The entire schtick of ‘anyone can play these and you don’t need the original’ is a lie. Nothing lands emotionally or narratively as intended without the context of the original. It relies on you knowing the OG FF7 and specifically, you won’t understand what’s changed and why that matters.
You can play and enjoy whatever you want, but these games are for people who played the original game and you should play it anyhow, it’s still amazing.
The Rose Experience
2024-12-31 22:37:50 +0000 UTC
I would call it an hyperbole
Umberto
2024-12-31 22:32:20 +0000 UTC
people actually whined because i talked about how jim carrey is a main character in sonic 3. these people are fucking stupid.
Gene Park
2024-12-31 22:27:58 +0000 UTC
I didn't think it was THAT confusing, standard JRPG fuckery but I got 99% of it as a new Final Fantasy fan
Gooch Gobbler
2024-12-31 22:27:03 +0000 UTC
I don't get why people listen to podcast's discussing games if they care so much about light spoilers. Either don't listen or skip over the game you don't want spoiling. At some point, everything is a spoiler and there wouldn't be anything left to say about a game. Gene is one of the biggest voices in games media, and I wanna hear what he has to say about games. Not hear him have to keep holding back his thoughts because of people bitching about small spoilers.
Monty Pearson
2024-12-31 22:26:29 +0000 UTC
the spoiler tag is being removed i didn’t spoil shit
Gene Park
2024-12-31 22:14:39 +0000 UTC
i addressed this recently but im getting pretty sick of being accused of spoiling shit i dont even fucking talk about. that’s been happening a lot
Gene Park
2024-12-31 22:12:33 +0000 UTC
i have no idea why that has a spoiler tag. there are zero spoilers.
Gene Park
2024-12-31 22:03:02 +0000 UTC
Holy fuck
Ethan Barcelos
2024-12-31 22:02:43 +0000 UTC
I just beat FF7 Rebirth and it didn’t quite land for me…if you don’t have a deep knowledge of the original game, this game is just confusing. It’s 100% fan service for those that played the original
Napoleon in Rags
2024-12-31 21:58:14 +0000 UTC
Almost 7 hours! Ya’ll must have known I would have caught up on all my other podcasts and running out of things to listen to!
Sean Waters
2024-12-31 21:29:11 +0000 UTC
I agree with Colin, Naughty Bear > Ico
Trevor Myers
2024-12-31 21:21:23 +0000 UTC
Totally agree. I don’t get it at all. Matty has like 3 comparison points for any game and one of them just happens to be Dishonored.
Dante B
2024-12-31 21:20:47 +0000 UTC
Gene and spoiler tag is like peanut butter and jelly 🤣
His name in a podcast description should alone be a spoiler tag for basically anything he plans on talking about
Bartevious
2024-12-31 21:12:39 +0000 UTC
Only 7 hours?!
Tanner Kading
2024-12-31 21:05:22 +0000 UTC
A 7 hour episode and only Gene needed a spoiler tag. You love to see it.
Cai
2024-12-31 20:55:01 +0000 UTC
Dude I’m listening to the whole thing but I’ve had to go back and rewind 30 seconds to see what game they are referring to multiple times and I’m only on hour 2. Sorry I’m not watching this with a singular focus intently like Nosferatu
Gooch Gobbler
2024-12-31 20:49:37 +0000 UTC
Brad you are the GOAT! This is gonna come in clutch at work tomorrow.
Eric the human
2024-12-31 20:43:53 +0000 UTC
There are, for sure.
Not saying she’s not attractive. More like, despite the fact that Eve is modeled towards realism, something about I dunno, her legs being so damn long makes me have an association with a cartoon character or something. Dunno lol.
RFK Jr. streaming with an anime girl VTuber avatar and his voice pitched up but still wobbly
2024-12-31 20:41:11 +0000 UTC
6 hour LSM podcast on New Year’s Day? Hell yes.
Ryan Taylor
2024-12-31 20:37:27 +0000 UTC
She definitely doesn’t, there are real women out there that look like Eve. Pixar mom has Octomom hips
The Rose Experience
2024-12-31 20:34:36 +0000 UTC
Dishonoured plays immensely better and offers so much variety/options comparatively. I can see a possible inspiration, but the games really don’t share much in common outside of the perspective in gameplay
The Rose Experience
2024-12-31 20:33:41 +0000 UTC
Or just… listen to the podcast?
Muskrat Mike
2024-12-31 20:15:53 +0000 UTC
Brad the absolute madman! Appreciate the epic episode!
Andy Miller
2024-12-31 20:09:30 +0000 UTC
I really don't understand the Indiana Jones/Dishonored comparisons. The moment to moment gameplay feels nothing alike.
Sure, they're both first person stealth games with large, open levels and you can throw bottles at enemies in both games, but that's where the comparisons end. They feel completely different in character movement and gameplay.
I think Matty and Dustin need to go back and play Dishonored, because it's nothing like Indiana Jones.
Mike Held
2024-12-31 19:59:23 +0000 UTC
Best addition this year was Summon Sign. Great way to end the year. Thanks!
Frank
2024-12-31 19:52:09 +0000 UTC
Wow 6 hours plus!
Robbie Agnew
2024-12-31 19:50:39 +0000 UTC
I'm about to walk 15 miles in a row while listening to this long ass epic! Thanks LSM!!
Morgan
2024-12-31 19:26:01 +0000 UTC
Epic episode.
Cameron
2024-12-31 19:18:36 +0000 UTC
Once someone pointed out that she has Pixar mom proportions, it definitely explained why it wasn’t super appealing to me lol.
RFK Jr. streaming with an anime girl VTuber avatar and his voice pitched up but still wobbly
2024-12-31 19:07:37 +0000 UTC
Colin’s perpetual denial that Eve can’t be viewed as sexy because there’s too much else going on in-game or it’s too “unreal” will never not be funny. Anyway, great episode and content this year, Brad. Glad LSM brought you on - you’re the best addition to the team in years.
Daniel E
2024-12-31 18:47:32 +0000 UTC
Brad!!! You fucking mad man you’ve done it!! Show those Sacred boys how to do a proper pod you son of a bitch. Let’s fucking gooo
Tom Gentry
2024-12-31 18:43:55 +0000 UTC
Bruh
Samurai Costanza
2024-12-31 18:40:46 +0000 UTC
Hooooooo mama
Jacob R.
2024-12-31 18:40:41 +0000 UTC
ALMOST 7 HOURS? What a way to end the year, Brad you are the real MVP 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Breno Bezerra Bluhm
2024-12-31 18:39:53 +0000 UTC
I’m going to start this in 2024, and finish it in 2025.
Cormac
2024-12-31 18:38:00 +0000 UTC
Bizarrely, Square Enix actually does still own Gex. They didn’t give him up.
Zackery Parkerson
2024-12-31 18:31:59 +0000 UTC
By like an hour lol
RFK Jr. streaming with an anime girl VTuber avatar and his voice pitched up but still wobbly
2024-12-31 18:26:41 +0000 UTC
Is this satire?
Birds Aren't Real
2024-12-31 18:26:22 +0000 UTC
YOOOOOO
RFK Jr. streaming with an anime girl VTuber avatar and his voice pitched up but still wobbly
2024-12-31 18:26:03 +0000 UTC
Thicc episode. I'll probably be listening up until Sacred on Friday
Chris banging ladies wearing the Green Goblin Mask
2024-12-31 18:25:28 +0000 UTC
Haven't listened to it yet but seeing a spoiler warning after Genes name gave me a chuckle. 🤣
Strav 23
2024-12-31 18:12:58 +0000 UTC
I used to pray for times like these
OCEL0T
2024-12-31 18:11:50 +0000 UTC
Not to be greedy because this is a mammoth size banger, but man we could have used some graphics here or even a list in the description
Gooch Gobbler
2024-12-31 18:07:16 +0000 UTC
Brad has ascended to Super Saiyan 3. This needs to be a yearly tradition, even better if it can be on New Years Eve each year. Maybe my favorite podcast in LSM history, felt like a chance to hang out with everyone on the team at the same time
Shadi Haddad
2024-12-31 18:04:20 +0000 UTC
Wow I love this! Great episode for the new year!
Tanner Brant
2024-12-31 18:04:12 +0000 UTC
My work day is gonna be a breeze, thank you!
Lizurd
2024-12-31 18:01:46 +0000 UTC
I just gave Brad my podcast of the year for Summon Sign and then he drops this. 😩
NeO JD
2024-12-31 17:46:44 +0000 UTC
Honestly if you don't like ICO you're a fake from soft fan
Umberto
2024-12-31 17:45:46 +0000 UTC
Holy shit Brad managed to sneak in the annual EZA 8 hr GOTY talks into LSM lmao
Bogey
2024-12-31 17:45:20 +0000 UTC
Great to have all these recordings for so much down time (for your audience) over Xmas.
Also, Colin, off-topic but I’m replaying TLOU P2 on PS5 Pro and it is absolutely incredible. You’re right, it’s a 10/10 game. Go install it and check out the graphics, I’m blown away by the detail, even more so than Horizon FW.
Matt
2024-12-31 17:44:17 +0000 UTC
This is why Brad is the Goat!!
Nathan Yahoo wins prostate lottery
2024-12-31 17:31:12 +0000 UTC
Sith hours!
Frank G.
2024-12-31 17:29:43 +0000 UTC
God bless you Brad
NIGHTMARE NIGHTMARE NIGHTMARE
2024-12-31 17:28:49 +0000 UTC
Holy fucking shit. This is dedication Brad, much appreciated.
Your Boi Nicky V
2024-12-31 17:27:38 +0000 UTC
Better start now holy shit
Nathan Yahoo wins prostate lottery
2024-12-31 17:27:10 +0000 UTC
Don't know if I can edge for 7 hours
Phil Walker
2024-12-31 17:25:33 +0000 UTC
One of my new favorite recurring LSM bits is Colin holding a bunch of MegaMan pixels up to the camera and asking "Brad who is this?"
Deemac
2024-12-31 17:25:21 +0000 UTC
Seize the gap!! You fat cow!
Mike Held
2024-12-31 17:17:19 +0000 UTC
Brad bringing the length and girth at the end of 2024
WellyPWNS
2024-12-31 17:16:55 +0000 UTC
7 hours!?! I'll be Colining my Moriarty to this one!
Mike Held
2024-12-31 17:16:10 +0000 UTC
Chonk
joefray_
2024-12-31 17:11:51 +0000 UTC
Woah… awesome
Haru Discourse
2024-12-31 17:11:43 +0000 UTC
7 hours… you guys are fucking animals
Chris Evans
2024-12-31 17:10:18 +0000 UTC
Peak
Fat Gotenks
2024-12-31 17:09:35 +0000 UTC
7 hours holy! I am working on New Years so, this is great lmao.
KrazyBean14
2024-12-31 17:08:35 +0000 UTC
I woke up feeling down today. After seeing this posted I’m ready to seize the day
Tristan Kimball
2024-12-31 17:05:59 +0000 UTC
If you start this episode at 5:16:01 it’ll finally be over when the ball drops.
NukeDukem
2024-12-31 17:05:35 +0000 UTC
Yes Brad thank you! I’ve always thought we needed better GOTY content at LSM. Very excited to listen
Mattveego
2024-12-31 17:05:20 +0000 UTC
Longest LSM video of all time?
Cole Wallace
2024-12-31 17:04:37 +0000 UTC
Fantastic idea!!
Conor Wilson
2024-12-31 17:03:51 +0000 UTC
LETS GOOO. Longest episode ever on LSM?
Diddy’s Dong Quest
2024-12-31 17:01:17 +0000 UTC
7 Hours? LFG
RoughSlpr
2024-12-31 17:00:45 +0000 UTC