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Thanks, this was good advice. My problem was ruminating.
Krits
2024-09-27 20:24:55 +0000 UTChttps://alphagameplan.blogspot.com/2011/03/socio-sexual-hierarchy.html
Rian Stone
2024-09-26 19:20:52 +0000 UTCCocky... I went away for 5 days of debauchery. So total fail this past week. Since I've gotten back, I've done weights twice. Running in morning? I'm a night time physical person. I don't like doing stuff first thing, although I'll do it if I'm going to be away that evening. I'm not DEER'ing because I'm not apologizing for it. If I go to a fancy steakhouse, I'm also going to have nice wine and I'm going to have the desert. I can be very strict with my diet, but I also live life. I don't normally eat sugar or wheat, but if everybody says you have to have the bread pudding for desert because it's the best in the City, that's what I'm going to have. That's always been my plan. I'm doing no alcohol other than for social activities. I was clean for three weeks, and I've taken a week off. I'm about to go away again to get my residency elsewhere and I'll eat and drink as I like. When I'm back, I'll be strict again.
Dave
2024-09-26 18:36:10 +0000 UTC‘Do not overreact’ - you can’t control her behavior, only your own.
babykiller
2024-09-26 18:30:29 +0000 UTC@Eddie - Latin America. Looking at the usual suspects, which are Mexico, Costa Rica, Guatemala, Dominican Republic, Colombia, Peru, Paraguay, Uruguay, Argentina. Child support is mandatory and if you live out of country, they can chase you down legally for that. Spousal support is not generally something they would be successful in collecting, assuming you have no assets remaining in your home country. It's a private legal dispute in the home country. In my case, where it mattes if I decide to retire at say age 55, while the legal system expects payments until age 65. They wouldn't be able to chase me down for those 10 years. For me, that 10 year period would be millions.
Dave
2024-09-26 18:28:27 +0000 UTCDon’t project your autism onto me
babykiller
2024-09-26 18:16:50 +0000 UTCMy high stakes litigation has led to more back-and-forth fights. Because of unforeseen weather situations, the court had to cancel the hearing that would have hopefully resolved many of these fights. Last night, the other side escalated things, contending that I and my firm was being out-of-line under the rules. This type of rule motion is quite serious, and I'd never been accused of in my 15 years of practices. However, they had a point because there was a scrivener's error that had been made in filings. The main thrust of my arguments remain the same; and regardless, I will be correcting the apparent error. I expect they will maintain that my arguments are sanctionable. I will fight it and doubt it will succeed. I raise this because a) my freak out lasted much shorter than before--heavy lifting helps; b) my default still is a "nice guy" default in that I lacked self-confidence. I immediately fell into their frame and assumed I was wrong and/or felt guilt. The Catholicism runs deep. That is an area that I need to continue to work on--self-confidence, leaning towards irrational self-confidence. If I made a decision before, I should trust myself. That's the mental model I'll be going with. Otherwise, did a quick smash session the other night. I did not get a hard no, escalated. She has a health condition that can cause pain. She was making faint noises like that was affecting her. I almost stopped but recognized that she was not telling me "no" or "stop." I interpreted that as a green light to continue and so I did. Perhaps her unconscious mate retention strategy since it had been about week and a half due to shark week and my traveling. "Don't care, got laid."
CovertContractAttorney
2024-09-26 17:57:00 +0000 UTC"So I am bored as shit. " Sounds like you are building "Frame" and your work is starting to show some results. I hope are not one of these guys that need drama in your life?
Cocky_funny
2024-09-26 17:43:33 +0000 UTCSame thing again.. This is here for you to improve your own fu*king life, first thing first. "You are the ultimate judge of your actions not "Rian". Massive - Batman origin story. Dont dump your fu*king emotions. Get a therapist if thats what you want to do here You have a lot of emotions and deep routed things going on here. -Stop looking for validations Books - How to Win friends and influence people and 48 laws of power are great books and they are part of the sidebar. Reread them when you have read the books in order on the MRP reddit. Most self books are not actually "self help" My thoughts - Reread "No more mr nice guy" and do the exercises again and maybe post them here or on the No more mr nice guy subreddit - You need to stop "Ruminating" - Look at "The Ruminating Brain: On-Demand Video Course" - You have some deep routed issues and you need to let go for a lot of emotional Trauma - Get a therapist
Cocky_funny
2024-09-26 17:39:54 +0000 UTC"Rian".. WTF do you mean "Rian" This is for you to improve your own fu*king life, first thing first. "You are the ultimate judge of your actions not "Rian". @opsec made some of the stuff that i was going to point out. But i sounds like things have not fully "sticked yet". Keep going But you 100% need to read Frame "Frame-Self-Actualization-Modern-Praxeology"
Cocky_funny
2024-09-26 17:25:11 +0000 UTCGood that you are keeping fit. --- Fitness – --- Steady as she goes. Weights, running, biking and hiking. "I aim to do 6 activities a week." You didn't active this? How many activities did you do this week last week? Are you lifting more; -10kg/+10kg? Are you running, biking, hiking less or more? What has changed, what has improved? --- Diet - --- You could have gone for runs in the morning? Press ups before going to bed in the morning? Why didnt you? "drinking can be rewarding in moderation." - DEER'ing we all know this. Why are you saying this?
Cocky_funny
2024-09-26 17:17:21 +0000 UTC2+ hr phone calls in the past, This is boyfriend/husband behaviour. Dont act like it if you dont want to be one. "she kept mentioning that she was single." She maybe looking for some attenion or this is just an indicator of interest (I.O.I). You are smart enough to know the difference. I guess you can use her as practice/training wheels. ------- Train ------- **Observe** "Tapped her on the shoulder since she was wearing headphones. Said I was getting off in a couple stops, but wondered if she knew of any good restaurants where we came from. She was super excited and started talking. " This is good ✅ *Orientation* - Some of my thoughts on the Orientation On the train or short 2-3 mins interactions. You knowing that she could possibly get off the next stop or at the end the train journey . I would have looked for I.O.I's Her- These restaurants are good. or This area is good Your options - "Maybe we can get something to eat, sometime"? - "Can you cook"? "Maybe we can cook something to for me"? - Dare not DEER - "I'm new to the area, maybe you can show me around sometime?" "sometime" puts less pressure on her Before getting off the train You - When are you getting off? Her: Next stop You number close. Coffee close. **Act** " I’m going to be direct and just say that I’m interested in getting coffee with her." This is good ✅ ------- Key Thoughts ------- Why do you want to be Cocky funny to an "acquaintance"? Strange. If you want to practice cocky funny, practice it with all of your friends and family, cocky funny is something that becomes part of your personality(eventually)
Cocky_funny
2024-09-26 16:56:17 +0000 UTCIf your goal is to be a pua full time then proceed. Dating is your thing… If you want any other life than that, then you need to build a life. Date and let good women that jump through fire hoops stick around.
Cousin Eddie
2024-09-26 16:50:41 +0000 UTCWTF is this shit!
Cocky_funny
2024-09-26 16:48:07 +0000 UTCAs one waits for the 1000 ft tow rope becomes tight. There is other work. Social animal: day game. Write more about that… Male friend groups . Blue vs red oceans.. Financial/career. Health… Building the fun bus that people want to be apart of.
Cousin Eddie
2024-09-26 16:39:36 +0000 UTCFunny you say that because my mind wants to create an issue. It’s like I am coming off of a drug, which I am. Just a chemical drug of my own making.
Validation Junkie
2024-09-26 16:31:49 +0000 UTClmao, I don’t know. Why would fucking an absolute cunt of a woman be appealing to someone? I will say that I identified a ‘need’ to recreate my daddy yelling at me in my grown up relationships. So it may be an internalized shame thing as you suggest. However I am looking for exposure to testing women to practice the tools. It could be a dumb approach. Edit: on further thought, I may be seeking to replicate the situations of the past as some sort of redemption for my badness.
babykiller
2024-09-26 16:01:26 +0000 UTCI can't tell if you are retarded or just completely broken. Do you need life to be difficult because your low self esteem doesn't think you are worthwhile? Are you only going to be happy if you fuck an absolute cunt of a woman?
Op Sec
2024-09-26 15:56:41 +0000 UTCI read NMMNG once through, completed the exercises, and took a trip for two weeks including 1 week by myself in Ireland. During my travel I listened to the audiobook 2 times and reflected on some of the parts that were especially relevant in my past. Most of it is related to my behaviors regarding my ex. I fit the ‘avoidant nice guy’ persona. My covert contract in the first field report went like ‘I’m a nice guy so she has to treat me nicely.’ I can’t control how other people behave. I’m reading WISNIFG right now will have it done this week. Health: I’m taking a break from lifting this week because my shoulders are in pain, seems to be from boxing. Still working out regardless, I always do. I’ll be going back to a doctor but I’ve been through this before for tendon stiffness and pain in hands, knees, back.. and there’s never an answer. I’m prepared to accept that and just work around it. Sex: On Sunday I picked up an Asian girl at the grocery store. Next day she invited me to a concert with her and I went. My plan was to practice AA, AM, CF and of course no ‘therapy-talk’ allowed. I did that all night and kept things very light and fun. Then last night she asked to go for a walk. I set it up for close by having her park near my place, come inside and hang out while I finished cooking something for myself. We then walked to a park from there. Afterward we banged. She was too easy, weak shit tests and token resistance that I gave her time on and she changed her mind. I let her stay the night and she made my bed and cleaned my place in the morning while I showered for work. The lack of testing and criticality from her made this not very useful for me besides getting a nut out. I’m looking for women who can give me a better challenge to practice with. That means I’m approaching wherever I see the opportunity. Stacking my social calendar and using tools in every interaction I can.
babykiller
2024-09-26 15:45:46 +0000 UTCControl game: https://theredarchive.com/r/TheRedPill/ltr-the-bare-minimum-you-need-to-know.49132 According to whisper control game rests upon three pillars: attraction, obedience and non-entitlement. This report will be about obedience. I had made myself a goal of one compliance test per day. I did this for a week and then it became a normal thing to do. Now, I’m doing them all the time. In the past, I tried ordering my wife around and was met with resistance. It helps to think of these as testing the other person. It’s outcome independence and a “I am the prize” frame all in one. I found that at first that my assertiveness would be inconsistent. e.g. assertive, while fucking “flip over”. not assertive “Are you making tea?”. I made sure to increase my assertiveness. Wife passed every compliance test and became much more affectionate and pleasant. Increased assertiveness also lead to more pleasantness, affection and getting my requests fulfilled in a more timely manner. Wife made it more challenging to give compliance tests by anticipating my needs. e.g. I was about to ask her to make me a coffee, but she asked me if I wanted a coffee before I was able to. I talked to my brother on the phone. I noticed how he would take a few seconds now and then and was ordering his wife around. He had a plan and she was helping him execute dinner. There’s another reference experience I had a long time ago that’s worth writing about. I was at a party. I asked a girl to get me a drink. For no reason other than to see if she would do it. She looked at me confused, like “aren’t you with that other girl”. She got me the drink and started acting submissive. It’s like chicks want to find a man they can do stuff for and it makes them happy. One of the frames talked about on MRP, is the “she exists to serve me” frame. This was a very effective way of adopting this frame. This reminded me of managing an employee. You can tell them what to do, but figuring out what to tell them is still work and might take creativity. I read. Sadly, Porn. by Edward Teach, aka blackbeard, aka The last Psychiatrist. It’s long, thick, erudite and dense. It’s helped that I read stuff like Theucides. He writes like he hates his audience and not just a little bit. He’s got 4 page footnotes. The book is 1200 pages long. It’s random ramblings brought with zero transition. “Why am I reading about Freud, I was just on the peloponnesian war a page ago?”. This book is about covert contracts or as he calls it keeping a ledger. The things we fantasize about and desire and how they are manipulated. How instead of wanting things for ourselves, we want to deprive others. About taking action instead of gaining knowledge. The book is an experience, was well worth my time, made me better in bed. And really that’s the only part that matters, what effect did a book have on you. I’ll be reading this one again. I recently read The six-pillars of self-esteem. It’s not the shitty version of self esteem. It is quite old and reads like a book about frame. The action it has you take is to journal sentence stem completion exercises. E.g. “If I take more responsibility for my life…”. I am going through the exercises, see what effect it has, but am somewhat disillusioned because you don’t have to write and speculate about it. Instead, take more responsibility and then reflect about what happened.
Op Sec
2024-09-26 13:32:14 +0000 UTCI was specific enough
Owning My Shit
2024-09-26 13:27:20 +0000 UTCWhy did you write the report? Chances are, either you wrote it for a shit reason, or specifics do matter.
Op Sec
2024-09-26 13:14:16 +0000 UTCwellbuiltstyle has a rather cheap basic bitch style course. I took it and it really is all you need. Tanner guzzy has a few different offers and a book as well. It’s sort of funny, you lost frame in your writing at the exact same time as you did in life. You started writing about your wife. If she is loosing her shit, tell her to “shut the fuck up”. Broken record that (broken record is in WISNIFG). I suspect you would have a hard time saying that to her. Ask yourself why? WISNIFG is not that tedious. It could be your capacity to read is shit. More likely though is that it is challenging your world view so much that it is very difficult for you. Which means you really need, not that this is a consolation. One of the assertive rights in WISNIFG. You have the right to change your mind. Also nice guy behavior of hiding the badness. You change your mind because you want to, perhaps your wife makes a good point, but not because she looses her shit. Heck women loose their shit once a month for no reason, use your own judgement.
Op Sec
2024-09-26 13:11:49 +0000 UTCBoring is good. Don’t fall into the trap of fucking things up just to have something to do. You can enjoy a temporary break or go right into the next step of developing a vision and purpose.
Op Sec
2024-09-26 13:02:33 +0000 UTCField Report #17 I got so use to getting shit tests, comfort tests, and shit comfort tests coming my way all the time. Plus I was working on getting better at passing them so I had something to do. Now I am bored off my ass! Yeah I still get the tests but they just aren’t hard to pass anymore. So I am bored as shit. To help deal with the boredom I started day gaming when I can. Call it a hobby. I also started learning Spanish last month, always wanted to learn, always wanted to have a second language in my back pocket. My wife has some student loans that need to get paid off. I got a call and she was out. (I am back at work for two weeks and have to deal with issues while away) I listened, reflected back to her and than asked her what she was going to do? In the past I would have been the one to make all the calls and chase it down. Leaving her to just sit on her ass. I did point her in the right direction when she asked. I let her run it all down and even had her look up Dave Ramsey stuff. She sent me a long text about how much she loved me, and if I was home she would thank me properly etc. etc etc. I just replied with “I know kid” Didn’t look into what she was saying just took it for what it was. Her in that moment feeling a feeling and emoting it. Again, a year ago I would have emoted back in length. Taken the validation and made it into something it wasn’t. Other than that it has been fucking boring.
Validation Junkie
2024-09-26 12:58:39 +0000 UTCHey Rian, hope you're well man. To summarize my questions, How do I become likeable. How do I get respect. Note: I came across the RP last August, so I'm slowly applying all the teachings. I've read all your books as well as Rollo's. I only ask you and Rollo questions as I think you can relate to problems I've been experiencing. It's not that I want to hear what I want to, I'm just hoping you or Rollo have been through what I've been without providing the detail. For example, I asked Rollo about being worked out/rail roaded, I don't think Rollo could relate, but when I asked you the question, you could relate straight away without having too much detail. I've always looked far ahead and tried to build things that last, maybe that's boring. Hope that makes sense and clears things up. Detail: In continuation to my previous question, you struck a few chords. By you asking if I'm Indian, it tells me that you know what we're going with regard to caste, the fair skin issue, wealth and status within the Indian community. In summary, if you aren't rich or fair within the Indian community, you're treated badly, disrespected and taken for granted. While it exists, I do not want to play the victim card. I would rather become better at playing the game, than waiting for the game to change for me. The other chord you struck was that I am not liked. The way you explained it was accurate, people always finding a problem no matter what I do or the way I do things. I changed by listening to people's advice, and saw I was just getting used. I was getting into alot of arguments and fights, no matter what I did, I never got the respect and people always blamed me. I had to stop fighting as I didn't want to get a criminal record. This made me take the honest and well disciplined path, and I was hated even more, but the hatred came from people in my age group. I did notice the older people took a liking and had respect for me as I looked like the perfect guy for a girl to marry. Unfortunately with people my age hating me, it caused those older people to thinking something was wrong with me. Some older people told me I had a good head on my shoulders and to not bother with the hatred. I started studying, working out and reading alot of self-help books, this was in the 2000's. I didn't even hear about the RP and also had the White Knight mentality. I did read 'How to win friends and influence people', I've applied it meticulously and it's gotten me into this mess even more. People don't respect me and have walked all over me, which is why I don't like or cannot relate to that book. I've always been the friend to rely on, never the friend to have a fun night out with. Bettet yet, the first friend to call if someone was in a tight situation & alwaus the last resort. I'm not sure how to become more likable. I have been gyming, so my built is decent, looks is average, I was one of the pretty boys back in school but lacked the social skills to capitalize on that. I am very friend but it seemed/seems to push people away. In my teen years, I was always the responsible one and would call my friends out, especially where it was going to cause or get us into trouble. Eventually I started ghosting friends and family as I was desperate to have people like me and saw they were using me because I was desperate. Someone once told me I looked like a snob because I dressed really well and stood out as well as being extremely disciplined, very respectful to everyone and being nice. I wasn't drinking or smoking as I couldn't afford it and never accepted people paying for me, as I didn't want to be a fucking leech. Once I left the friends, I started to build myself, working hard, studying, gyming and self improving. During my time alone, I had alot of time to reflect and connected the dots. After reading 48 Law Of Power, which was this year, everything made alot more sense. I've learned that everyone is really for themselves, and if they cannot use you or use their game on you, they don't want you near them. When I enter a new social group, some people in the group start to get weird. When I start to question about them, I eventually find oit they're some type of drug/depression medication addicts. All in all, what I do find in common with all these people that dislike me, is that they're on some type of medication, or they're an alcoholic. It's like I'm attracting all the crazies. They're normally the ones that turn the group against me, as they know how to say something in a certain way, to persuade people. The 2 managers I've had issues with were the worst of the worst, nobody liked them but no one dared to question or challenge them. I am normally the one to put those kind of people in their place, and thereafter, the other people in that social setting say, 'They had it coming'. I'm not going out looking for it, but somehow I'm attracting this shit. I just want to go out, socialize, have fun, fuck a few bitches minis all this fucking drama man. I want this shit to be done with. I'm 35, I've been going through this since I was a kid. I'm tired man.
Krits
2024-09-26 10:44:18 +0000 UTCDoes that matter?
Owning My Shit
2024-09-26 08:24:44 +0000 UTCThis is written as if it were a dear Abby question. It feels like you are asking for our (rians) take. The fashion paragraph is a question. Rewrite: I bought new shoes and noticed this. (No question) I would push the Overton window to narcissism. Ex: I am the shit because I am the shit. “Babe, I wanted to spend extra time with you in a fast food line! How romantic!?” 😝 Tone: you should be happy to just be in my presence. You can calibrate later.
Cousin Eddie
2024-09-26 05:33:10 +0000 UTCRian, last week you mentioned that I might be kinda fat. I can understand why you might assume that with some guys in an agricultural career are that. I'm 5'11'' 175lb health was always a priority and I notice I do get some attention from women and tend to be social (extroverted). My wife is slender and good looking (so no image issues for her) we are a decent looking couple. You are right about style, I am lacking there. Could use some suggestions as I never made it a big priority. I'm stating this to help narrow down what underlying issues I need help with. Drove to another of my son's ball games with the wife the other night about an hour and a half away. Half way there I say I'm gonna grab a burger at the drive through (I stated this earlier with no complaint) as I had worked most the day and not eaten and she LOOSES her shit! Stomped on the brakes and said "do not overeact" it'll be just a couple minutes, more complaining. By the time we got to town I lost my appetite and went to the game. Went to the drive through after and it was a 20 min wait. I forgot this was the norm for this place (it is always busy, I forgot since I hadn't been there in some time) and admitted I may have been wrong. She didn't want to miss half the game so I was wrong about this. Didn't think it warranted a shit fit so I was pretty quiet the whole way home. I consciously went through OODA during the fit but was at a loss. Stomping on the brakes and sternly saying "do not overeact" was all I could come up with. Didn't quite get the result I would have liked, of course. My observation is that I am indecisive sometimes and not quick enough in some decisions. This happens probably 30% of the time it seems. Sometimes I make a decision and part way through execution it looks like there was a better way but I stick with my original call since you simply can't back out after beginning and I own it. A buried issue for ya, about a year and a half ago my wife's sister died from alcoholism. They weren't very close but I gave my wife space and comfort in dealing with it. She seems over it by and large although you never really get over something like that. Our relationship was kinda on the decline before this however. Still reading WISNIFG when I can. It's good but tedious at times. I plan to read Praxeology next.
Joker43
2024-09-26 05:00:46 +0000 UTCThe statements you are saying sound fine. But “Where’s the beef?” (Old Comercial). Meaning where is the full ooda report. What do you mean “she deserves it? “ And what were you obliged to do? video call. Was she check on you?
Cousin Eddie
2024-09-26 01:17:13 +0000 UTCCan you say what countries you are looking at? What happens in divorce if you change citizenship?
Cousin Eddie
2024-09-26 01:09:53 +0000 UTCOn short interactions. Work on the three sentence. Subject. -what are you listening to? you - I could tell that you would listen to something like that. we. - I am not sure I can handle a ‘swiftly’ but I will give it a shot. Then hand her your phone for digits or socials…. Of course you are looking for buy in/ iois/ reciprocity.
Cousin Eddie
2024-09-26 01:00:24 +0000 UTC2hr+ phone calls, that sounds like something I did with a chick in highschool. Didn't sleep with her. Slept with girls I didn't talk to on the phone for 2+ hrs. Why would a girl want to sleep with you after she made you her bitch. yeah, if the interaction is short, it might go nowhere, but you have zero chance if you don't attempt. But still good practice. I suspect you knew it was going to be short, the pressure came off and as a result you were less anxious and came across much better. Which might mean you are trying hide your anxiety(hiding the badness) in other situations instead of owning it.
Op Sec
2024-09-25 21:34:31 +0000 UTCFitness – Steady as she goes. Weights, running, biking and hiking. I aim to do 6 activities a week. Diet – I had 4-day getaway with my business partners this past weekend, so lots of restaurants, drinking and partying late. I had a few weeks of clean eating and no drinking but had to break it. I’ll get back to clean as soon as I can. I do notice that shitty food and drinking gives me acid reflux and my body feels better without the bullshit. That said, drinking can be rewarding in moderation. I’m a couple pounds heavy from where I was a week ago. Divorce – It’s looking like we’re headed to mediation in December. I’m late on some disclosures and have a meeting with my lawyer next week to discuss. My company is still in growth mode so getting this done sooner is better for me than later. I didn’t pay my ex-wife back for medication for my kid because she tried to double dip on a couple expenses that I paid directly. She only gave partial information in an attempt to mislead me into paying more. I gave my lawyer the receipts and details and said he needs to tell the other side to document their costs the same way my accountant would ask me to. Always demand proper records when it comes to money. Plan B – I’ve been researching residency and citizenship in other countries to have a Plan B. It’s a relatively small cost and effort to buy some insurance and options. I’m doing this for a few reasons. 1. Negotiation – You need to know what your options and outcomes are when you negotiate. That adds strength to your position. 2. Covid and Governments – After the Covid lockdowns, I think it’s a good idea for a person to have options should a similar shitshow happen again. 3. Getting ahead of the curve – More westerners are pursuing residency in other countries. The causes are largely remote work (digital gonads) and a desire for upper income people to protect assets. It’s easier for the latter (which I’m a part) to do this than it has been before. People now have options that only the ultra- wealthy did before. I think many countries are going to start changing the rules to maintain control of their citizens (e.g. to capture taxes) and some countries will play to the locals that feel displaced by foreigners (e.g. Spain). I’ve hired an immigration consultant and have engaged a lawyer to assist in the first country. I’m planning to fly out next week and I should have residency a few days later. I’ll collect a new country every year for the next while. I’m not going to do any banking or move assets in the near term because I would have to disclose that. Everything I do will be 100% legal. There are some potential advantages to me in the future, but again, whatever I do is going to be legal. I have no plans to move anywhere in the near term. For now, it's a future option.
Dave
2024-09-25 20:40:54 +0000 UTCExcited to travel to see the best friend later this week. He lives far away so we figure out a place to meet up once a year to hang out. The other reason why I’m stoked is that it gives a me reason to see a girl (the ex’s best friend) who lives there. We don’t talk often but we’ve had a couple 2+ hr phone calls in the past, and she was vibing me at the time – she kept mentioning that she was single. A couple weeks ago, we have texted about actually trying to meet up for the first time. No expectations, just trying to do my part to source and game. Cold Approach Saw a girl on the metro. Approached within 15 seconds. Tapped her on the shoulder since she was wearing headphones. Said I was getting off in a couple stops, but wondered if she knew of any good restaurants where we came from. She was super excited and started talking. Every time she started slowing down, I gave just enough to the conversation for her to continue. Only had about 3-4 minutes before she had to get off. Didn’t ask me for my name or anything about me – but again it was only a few minutes before she had to leave. In the future, in these types of situations where I have limited time, I’m going to be direct and just say that I’m interested in getting coffee with her. Key Thoughts - Going to try to meet up with an acquaintance for coffee. Going to focus on being cocky and funny and escalate as far as I can. - With cold approaches that have a short time constraint where I can’t prolong the conversation and wait for her to get interested in my name/personal details, I’m going to be direct and ask to hang out for coffee and get the phone number.
lemon
2024-09-25 20:30:29 +0000 UTCGirl is on best behavior and asked for a videodate ⊶ I did not want to and said no (even though i felt guilty) ⊶ she tried to manipulate by being cute ⊶ I ignored her words and set the next actual date ∵ Even if she's on best behavior, I'm not obliged to do shit I don't want, even if "she deserves it". ∵ Questions don't require to be answered. ∵ It’s impossible to have sex through video.
Owning My Shit
2024-09-25 20:26:32 +0000 UTC
