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Chapter 429

A/N Small change to last chapter to reflect that the elves did know he could use curse but didn't know he could mix it with magic. My bad on that somehow it slipped my mind that the information would have spread like wildfire.

“Hey princess, which do you think looks more gruesome?” the prince asked as Arianwyn approached Ajax and by extent the body of the fallen ettin. 


Arianwyn wasn’t squamish, she had long dealt with the gruesome aftermath of combat, despite that the crushed and burst remains of the ettin’s head still encased in its metal helmet attached to the rest of the body did remove her plans of a celebratory feast for finally surpassing the level one hundred dungeon bottle neck. 


Despite his joking mood the prince was quick to carefully pack up the ettin’s staff, sadly the because of its sheer size the item could never be anything more than a location defense artifact or a one shot ambush opening. 


“He’s still conscious.” Aranor’s voice couldn’t hide the surprise.


“A lot of good that does him.” one of the healers said with a chuckle as he inspected Ajax’s condition. “I doubt he could get one of his toes to twitch if he wanted to.” 


As invested as he was by the invisible screens in front of him Ajax wasn’t about to let that go. While the elf may have been technically correct at the moment he made the statement he hadn’t factored in Ajax’s pettiness. By relaxing and contracting specific muscles Ajax was able to exacerbate his injuries just enough that [Berserker] gave him enough stamina to get his arm to turn over and raise a single finger.


“Looks like he disagrees.” Elara didn’t even try to conceal her laughter as she watched the healer glance back towards Ajax before his jaw dropped as he noticed the raised middle finger. 


Ajax made a few attempts to talk but nothing more than a grunt made it past his lips. “I deserved that one kid, but no need to keep pushing yourself.” the healer said as he approached Ajax and started casting, once the first spell was activated Ajax could feel his body mending and a drowsiness overcome him. “Get some sleep, you'll be able to talk once you awaken.” 


With that Ajax’s consciousness finally stopped holding on and he closed his eyes. “This was a very even fight.” Aranor said as he examined the battered body of the ettin as well as the rough shape of Ajax’s own armor. “We finally have a decent benchmark to compare him to since his fighting style is so similar to the hybrid ettin.” 


“Let's get going.” The prince said as he balanced the now wrapped up staff on his shoulder. 


Not even the prince’s spacial storage was enough to hold the staff, sure in terms of volume it could easily hold ten of them, the problem was the staff was simply too tall to fit inside the cube dimension.


“Do you think this will give him a Mythic skill?” Arianwyn finally addressed the elephant in the room. All of them were silently thinking about the very same thing but nobody wanted to point it out.


“We’ll have to wait until he wakes up to find out.” Aranor said as the group continued away from the battle site in silence.


When Ajax awoke he found himself in a comfortable spot surrounded by blankets near a roaring campfire close to an arch, one he was sure would lead them to the Metal floor they had decided to head for next.


“How are you feeling sleepy head?” the prince greeted him. 


“Like a convoy failed to notice I was laid up in the road and rolled right over me.” Ajax complained as he stretched his stiff muscles as his body protested the movement despite his health being full.


“The phantom pain will pass quickly.” the healer said. “ Since you weren’t awake for the healing your mind hasn’t caught up to the fact that your body was healed even if the body acts like it has.” 


Ajax was very familiar with the process, not from having experienced all that often but more from his discussions with Kate about her studies. Phantom pain was one of the most dangerous things to consider when healing injured low level people, especially the ones who had pushed themselves well past their limits before passing out, without a solid investment in physical stats the shock from waking up could be enough to kill them. Those people had to be slowly awakened a little at a time so the brain could keep up with the body.


“So was it worth it?” the prince’s question drew a few frowns from the elves, not because he asked but because of how ambiguous an answer could be given.


Reminded of his reward Ajax was quick to bring the Achievement back up now that he had a clear mind to take everything in.


Achievement: I’m the Boss now. 

(Earned through defeating an warrior - mage Ettin)


Defeat a floor boss at more than two times higher level than you without help while inside a dungeon and being above level fifty.


Reward : Skill cap limit increased by 20. This is additive to all other increases up to the limit of 150.


Trait : Warrior - Mage (Stamina can now be used to power spells at a 1 : 1 efficiency of mana and Mana can be used to power Stamina based skills at a 1:1 efficiency)


Dungeon Boon : Solo collector. (The remains of one non -floor boss enemy may be redeemed in each floor of the dungeon, the remains do not disperse into mana upon exiting the dungeon. Enemies must be defeated alone.)


! (lesser or equal versions of the achievement can no longer be obtained.)


Achievement: I’m the Boss now. 

(Earned through defeating any floor boss)


Defeat a floor boss more than two times higher level than you without help while inside a dungeon and being above level fifty.


Reward : Skill cap limit increased by 20. This is additive to all other increases up to the limit of 150.


Trait : Boosted trait dependent on floor boss defeated.


Dungeon Boon : Solo collector. (The remains of one non -floor boss enemy may be redeemed in each floor of the dungeon, the remains do not disperse into mana upon exiting the dungeon. Enemies must be defeated alone.)


Achievement: And you call yourself a Boss. 

(Earned through defeating any floor boss)


Defeat a floor boss more than two times higher level than you while inside a dungeon and being above level fifty. None of the entities helping you may be above half the boss's level.


Reward : Skill cap limit increased by 10. This is additive to all other increases up to the limit of 150.


Trait : Trait based on the boss defeated


Dungeon Boon : Collector. (The remains of one non -floor boss enemy may be redeemed in the floor of the dungeon one exits, the remains do not disperse into mana upon exiting the dungeon.)


Achievement: You’re not that tough.

(Earned through defeating any floor boss)


Defeat a floor boss higher level than you alone while inside a dungeon.


Requires three Discoveries to earn.


Reward : Choose a skill you possess, gain a random skill of each lesser rarity that supports said skill. (Skills received level two times faster while at a lower level than the chosen skill)



“It was.” Ajax answered as he took in the information. “Though I can’t say I’m not disappointed at not being able to gain ‘You’re not that tough.’ I could have used four more skills.” 


In truth Ajax was a little disappointed in the Rewards he did get. Doubtless a large part of the reward was focused on the 20 skill level cap increase but he had already reached the 150 cap thanks to Divine Witness.


“Did you gain a Mythic skill?” Aranor asked, unable to curb his own curiosity.


“Unfortunately not.” Ajax said, and he meant it, he had hoped that maybe, just maybe the reward would be a Mythic skill, given the same type of non-combat options he had been offered for his Legendary selection he would have taken the social one. “The rewards are very different from ‘You’re not that tough.’,I think it is treated  as one of the lesser achievements just so it won’t be awarded.” 


“One of them?” Aranor was quick to latch onto any piece of information that slipped out. 


“Yep, there is a variation for killing a floor boss in a group while everyone taking part is under half the boss’s level.” Ajax teased them, he knew that there were no records of any group ever attempting to delve a floor over twice their level, though he very much believed that with enough training and another load of dungeon floors a forty man team of people like Lexi, Anna, Xavier and Benedict would stand a chance once they all reached level fifty four, at least against a favorable matchup like a pure warrior Ettin but even then it would be close.


While he was talking Ajax also pulled out a piece of parchment and scribbled down the group achievement before handing it to the prince. “What do you think?” 


The prince’s eyes bulged out as he read the rewards section before showing the piece of parchment to the elves. He knew that any attempt at gaining the achievement would have to be a collaboration by the most talented of the younger of multiple kingdoms. “It gave you a Trait and a Boon?” 


“Wait, you know that Boons are a thing?” Ajax was quick to answer back. “How come I never heard of them before?” 


“Because the only one we know about comes from the Achievement ‘Are you lost?’.” the prince explained. “You have to stay on the same dungeon floor for over half a century to get it. The Boon allows you to teleport to the exit arch.”


“If this is the lesser achievement, what did you get?” Arianwyn asked but her eyes remained transfixed on the piece of parchment as she reread the information over and over again.


Ajax took great pleasure in watching their expressions as he shared his rewards with the exception of what his Trait did.





Comments

I did remembered that correctly, thanks to confirm it.

atome 4 000

I expected some reinbursement for that trait similarly how he got when the reward was a skill he already had

Apoca

Thank's for posting this, I've pre-ordered the book! ❤️

Read Isekai

tftc! also congrats on upcoming release, (9Dec) been looking forward to the audio version!

Rod

Aperture is the issue... not that artifact. We're so used to dungeon loot resizing for the user; just seems this one won't. I say that- but it will be a comedy if it resizes itself when Ajax touches it.

Silver Beard

I wouldn't change my build plan on a single conquest; build on it instead. Next over match he gets into he might not have minders and a new trait will over-write the old. Stick with what you know until "mama" tells you different. ROFL

Silver Beard

Some Side Notes... We do know that you need some mental stats so that your mind can keep up to the speeds you can move with high physical skills, but given that his mental stats are all soon to be ~450, it's likely that those are already waaay higher than a level 200 physically focused warrior so there shouldn't be any issues on that front for quite some time... Also it's been mentioned that many mages focus on Mind-Intellect or Wisdom-intellect builds as what I speculate to be a form of min-maxing depending if you want to focus on firing tons of small spells or do large strategic level spells, probably only focusing a little bit into the 3rd mental stat so it doesn't take weeks to naturally regenerate your MP or so that you have a large enough pool to continuously fire off spells and mix a few higher cost spells as needed. So Ajax's even split between the 3 mental stats already seems a little strange.

Read Isekai

Here is an interesting question..... How does Stamina Regeneration Work? With mental stats there are.... - Mind: Mana Pool Size + Memory - Intellect: Spell Power + Thinking Speed - Wisdom: Mana Regen + Information Processing So at the moment Ajax has been leveling 2 stats in tandem Mind + Wisdom to increase his mana capacity and regeneration respectively. But to the best of my knowledge there isn't a physical stat that relates to Stamina regeneration. We know Endurance increases Stamina capacity.... But does any stat actually increase the regeneration rate of stamina? or does stamina regenerate at some fixed percentage of the total per unit of time? Or maybe at a some flat rate? (I would guess not a flat rate as that would presumably disadvantage high level physically focused fighters) In that case might it actually make more sense then, instead of ajax having to leveling 3 stats (Endurance, Mind, and Wisdom) to now start to focus all of that into Endurance? Simply using his stamina to generate spells now that he has this new Trait?

Read Isekai

It's all a positive feedback amplification. By level 100, Ajax is going to hit like a level 200 champion. 😈

userunfriendly

Ahh but intellect increases spell power, so the higher your intellect the more powerful your spells can be per unit of mana, and he's a level 200+ mage so he has loads of intellect no doubt

Read Isekai

Unknown. But I'm betting that Ajax has been checking mana consumption per skill level for a while now. Barring an asymptotic curve, higher skill levels should reduce mana consumption. Look at Aranor. There's no way he can emit massive spells without having affinities and a reduced mana cost. 🤔

userunfriendly

Besides threshold upgrades that we know can boost efficiency, I don't remember the there actually being a description in what the levelling up of skills actually does. I would guess it's dependent on the skill, but I don't think the system would ever allow a net positive effect like that? It seems to op as you would be able to fire off skills infinitely, heal all non instant kill damage basically immediately. It's just too unbalanced, why would the system have punishments for things like farming stats from low level monsters, but allow infinite damage generation? My thinking is there is a limit of a 1:1 conversion, after that the levels/thresholds would provide other bonuses like increased control, damage, or utility? Though if ajax is able to learn to regenerate mana with mana syphon I will admit that could technically also provide limitless resource through conversion, so I could very well be wrong.... but that would likely require insanely high mana densities, I think it more likely that it would be more like a super charging of his natural mana regeneration?

Read Isekai

Additionally, BOTH conversion efficiency and throughput efficiency will increase as the relevant skills go up! Cursed slash will take less and less Stamina as the skill level increases. Lightning affinity means that lightning bolts thrown around by Ajax will cost less and less mana as the skill level rises. Once over a tipping point, the mana costs and stamina costs of various skills will drop, ensuring a net positive effect. At that point, Ajax will be able to use his offensive abilities without a clear limit, depending on the circumstances. 😈😈😈

userunfriendly

Ajax got the bracer but the prince was picking it up for him since he couldn't move after the fight.

Lawrence West

Yeah I'm a bit confused about that too, plus his previous ring was able to fit an ingot the size of his old house

Read Isekai

Didn't he get a bracer with storage as big as a warehouse in chapter 400. From elves over assassination attempt... staff in there?

Jon Wright

I'm holding off on another re-read of the series until Christmas, but I also intend to reread and look for some more details around this, I do believe Keleros has mentioned on the discord that the baron trait didn't really matter because because Divine Witness already raised the cap to 150.... but he didn't elaborate enough on if it simply didn't matter becasue he would have to get to 150 before that additional bonus counted or if it didn't matter because 150 was a hard limit

Read Isekai

Throwing in my speculation to this as I drink coffee. The "civilized" world has an understanding of how the skill cap works as explained by Ajax's parents where the "known" max is 150 (Chapter 5 discussing turning 10 for his brother) which requires certain traits to accomplish. In this chapter his reward increases the Skill Cap Limit by +20 but not to exceed 150. In Chapter 2 when he is looking at his initial traits Divine Witness (which was granted to him as a replacement to his previous trait "Warning of Misfortune") just states "Skill level limits increased by 50" nothing about not to exceed 150. Now this could be an important detail to note that Ajax is different or it could just be a new detail that the author has started to add and when the book is published we might see and update to earlier chapters. I am not sure how many times Ajax would have gain a trait in the story so far that references skill cap increases to go through and determine if this is a one off item or something to consider. So looks like I will be rereading the whole story again for the fourth time trying to glean even more details.

Lawrence West

It should be noted that the princess apparently already killed the level 110 miniboss before the tournament... Chapter 321 - He’s better than me, sure I may have defeated a level one hundred and ten mini-boss and cleared an extra floor but I didn’t do that at level fifty.

Read Isekai

Honestly if he doesn't share the trait it's not that more impressive than the group one.

ShadeByTheSea

.... that is an excellent point! Totally forgot about the new name lol, It's totally still Gamer Reborn in my head 🫡

Read Isekai

The title of this series. QED. 🐶

userunfriendly

Grim Reaper probably did. Also, read the title. 🐶

userunfriendly

I need to ammend my original comment, looks like the efficiency gains to cursed slash are no where near as good as I originally thought after going back and checking chapter 198, it looks like a simple comparison can't be inferred as they were no comparing generating elemental mana from stamina but comparing the difference between generating curse mana from stamina and internal mana to elemental mana

Read Isekai

Looks like you were correct to question my efficiency gains statement Flusspferd. I was just spouting a bunch of none-sense 🤦‍♂️. After going back and looking at the efficiency of generating curse mana I think I found the reference that Sondadir was referring too. Chapter 198 - "That was quite a shock, that little curse mana took a hundred stamina to generate? A hundred mana could generate three or four times as much elemental mana. " I'm now unsure of just how much of an efficiency increase this new trait can lead to.... first of all Evelyn is comparing how much internal mana can be converted to elemental mana, and saying that stamina sacrifice is comparatively inefficient. But there could be many reasons for this first of all could come down to Ajax's casting style which is naturally several times less efficient than chanting. From chapter 223 we know that it's at least 5x less efficient (Though I'm unsure if that applies here as he's using a skill to generate it directly as opposed to casting anything). Likewise we know from this trait that it's likely there are efficiency losses from converting stamina to mana as well. I'm afraid this is an apples or oranges comparison that makes it difficult to draw any solid conclusions So while there is probably an increase of efficiency when generating curse mana from stamina sacrifice, it's probably not nearly as much as I had originally expected it would be.

Read Isekai

I don't think ascended means an evolution of your race, but rather an previously mindless race gaining sentience? (I could totally be incorrect here)

Read Isekai

I didn't even mention the most sickening exploit of all. As Ajax got Mana Skin and Berserk (reward skill) at the same time, my theory (yet unconfirmed) is they're meant to work together. Ajax casts Mana Skin. He tanks a level 30 monster horde. Mana Skin levels up. Mana Skin becomes high enough so it no longer breaks with level 30 monsters, but with Berserk active, he still gets the stamina reward. He shoots lightning CONSTANTLY. Siphon, Mana Skin, Berserk, Lightning affinity skills level up like a rocket 🚀. If he's using his favorite hammer, Hammer skills level up. Void levels up... He could reach 150 in his Epic skills in a YEAR. 😱😱😱🤯🤯🤯. All the Milestones make them into pseudo-Legendary skills...😈😈😈

userunfriendly

Ascended in this case refers to powerful species like Dragons, and Elementals. Not a process by which an individual can evolve and become a stronger species. It likely refers to a Monster Species gaining a level of sentience, ascending them above the other mindless monsters of their race Though I could totally be incorrect, and there might actually be a method to evolve your species that we are as of yet unaware of

Read Isekai

The only way to have infinite mana would be if the efficiency was more than 1:1 i.e. if he generated +2 stamina for every -1 health lost. otherwise at 1:1 ratio it basically lets him add all his different resource pools into a single pool. So let for example if he had 4k in each Mana, Health, Stamina it would be possible to convert 3,999 health into 3,999 stamina (I'm assuming he would die at 0 health so he can't convert all of it) then 7,998 stamina(3,999 + 3,999) into 7,998 mana (assuming he would pass unconscious at 0 stamina which would make training impossible) which would give him 11,998(3,999 + 3,999, + 4,000) mana to play around with. However, he could then only convert 11,997 mana (assuming again he passes out at 0 mana), into 11,997 health +1 he previously had, and 11,997 health into 11,997 stamina + 1 he previously had. However at no point (besides through natural resource regeneration) can he increase the the value past 11,997. It seems likely that Berserker has a lower efficiency than 1:1 as well, so there would be losses as he converted health to stamina, but we don't know the efficiency of this conversion, likewise we don't know the efficiency level of healing though from how ajax has previously described it when he was first learning it it seems to be pretty inefficient as well. And while he has mentioned the 150 limit, no one has ever had a trait like Divine Witness before. The 150 limit previously was because combined traits are limited to 150, but Divine Witness doesn't combine with other traits so it might not apply in the same way? And with this most recent addition you could very well be correct in that it would apply the +20 to Divine Witness, but since that trait already brings him up to the 150 limit it would then do nothing.... Given Divine Witness is a permanent trait and can't be lost like the Royalty one it seems to me that it would be likely that the system would recompensate him? like it did with Curse Resistance? I'm thinking Divine Witness may interact with other traits and skill limits differently/independently meaning the +20 cap is added to his Baron trait(soon to be Duke) then Divine Witness stacks on top of that.... This is all purely speculation however, and I could totally be mistaken and the limit is only 150, in which case this achievement sucks

Read Isekai

He really needs Cursed Ice Ball. Hit a shield (deliberately) and the fragments will act like a grenade, scattering Curse to everyone near his target. 😈

userunfriendly

Do we know how humans ascend? If they even can?

Connor Hinrichs

Teej just pointed out the 150 level cap may NOT apply for Ascended beings. Ajax could have hit the jackpot with all the stacked increases in the skill caps...😈😈😈😈

userunfriendly

Oh Son of a...YOU'RE RIGHT! I totally didn't think of that! Probably the Skill Cap for Ascended beings is 300...well then, Ajax hit the Jackpot! 😳🤑

userunfriendly

Grim Reaper (Keleros refers to him as The Reaper) was the legendary king of all humanoid races from 500,000 years ago, that brought humanoids into the accords with the other ascended races(Dragons, Phoenix's, Elementals, Giants, etc). He's the one that killed all the giants. We learned about him when Ajax met Shifter's (maybe Shifty's) mother after the vampire incident

Read Isekai

That too. 😡😡😡

userunfriendly

Keleros has mentioned multiple times throughout the story that the absolute cap for skills is 150. Edit: This may not apply to Ascended beings. See the title for why Ajax may have just hit the jackpot...😈😈 Ajax's reward skill gives him Berserk (active skill) which generates Stamina for Damage. With Life mana self healing, he now has infinitely renewing mana. He can GRIND mana affinities until he gets reaction headaches. 😈

userunfriendly

It may not be addressed because no one else knows about Divine Witness and he's very unlikely to tell anyone about it. I fear that we won't get a resolution to this question until either he hits level 150 in a skill, Or Xavier gets the lesser achievement. Given that Xavier has the Royalty trait his limit is already at 150 so he would likely be recompensated..... Though there's a chance that because royalty isn't a permanent trait the system won't recompensate him? allowing him to keep the +10 bonus from the lesser trait if say there was ever a coupe and he lost his trait? We also know from chapter 5 that when traits combine the limit is still 150, even if the combined traits had a total bonus greater than that of 50 levels.....

Read Isekai

Hey, you're right, the system has already shown the ability to change rewards based on what you already have. I now expect this to be addressed in the next chapter

Connor Hinrichs

Why thank you! 😊. Though I will admit I've said my fair share of completely inaccurate nonsense, I've had to re-read the story many times, each time slowly correcting various misunderstandings to reach this point. Just last chapter in fact Sondadir corrected me by reminding me about the wild inefficiencies with his generation of curse mana vs generating elemental mana through stamina sacrifice. I just read Connor's comment above, and he reminded me of that as well! I actually made a similar comment in my reply to him lol. This is leading me to believe that the bonus from Divine Witness might actually stack with his other bonuses as opposed to override them. Otherwise I would think that the system would have compensated him rather than awarding a +20 to his skill cap? We may have to wait till Xavier gets the lesser achievement to really find out however, given he has the Royalty trait the +10 would definitely do nothing for him. That is unless ajax manages to get a skill to 150 before that.... but I think that's probably unlikely. Though the Royalty trait isn't permanent so it might not recompensate him.... 😫 Ah as I mentioned earlier about Sondadir, apparently generating curse mana was 10x less efficient than generating regular elemental mana through stamina sacrifice... I should reread that section of the novel to confirm... Based off that though I'm guessing now that he can generate mana from stamina at a 1:1 efficiency, he's essentially nullified that additional inefficiency? Which in turn would make generating curse mana 10X more efficient * Whatever gains to the previous efficiency of converting stamina to elemental mana (let's say it was 3:1 previously) that would mean that it's potentially become 30X more efficient for him to generate curse mana? or at least that's how I'm understanding this trait. Though there are a bunch of caveats to this calculation, like is part/all of the inefficiency of generating curse mana still present when trying to transform regular mana into curse mana?

Read Isekai

'better' is arguable, considering how useless the 20 level skill cap increase is for Ajax

Connor Hinrichs

What are you talking about with the Grim Reaper? Have we met a character like that that I have forgotten?

Connor Hinrichs

I didn't even consider it, but that would actually make so much sense if he was to get a different compensation because he's already at the cap! Though there is the possibility that he actually has a cap of 200, we don't yet understand how Divine witnesses bonus interacts with his other bonuses. They could stack, or simply the highest bonus replaces the lowest bonus.... This might actually be evidence that his bonus from Divine Witness actually stacks instead of overrides the lesser bonuses, because we do know that the system can compensate you with a different reward if you already posses the reward (as we learnt when he cursed himself 3x and got curse resistance, that was then changed to +10 levels to curse resistance)

Read Isekai

How bloody useless, the system should be able to sense that he is already at the skill cap and compensate him another way. 20 extra levels is an amazing reward, if you can use it. But if you can't then this reward is just so shit

Connor Hinrichs

And this is why I usually wait to comment till you had the chance… because you actually read the story and your reading comprehension vastly exceeds the average 10 year old, which lets you make informed comments and actually help people out who have questions. Thanks for that. That being said: I am very interested how the reward is handled. There is a precedent that „useless“/not applicable rewards are compensated for by the system. I don‘t remember the chapter, but Ajax would have gotten Curse Resistance (or was it Poison Resistance? Doesn‘t really matter, I guess) as the reward skill for an achievement but he already had the skill. Instead of the reward being wasted, he got 10 levels in the skill. If his cap isn‘t raised due to this reward, I would expect to see something similar. I am however confused by the comment about cursed slash. Why would it be cheaper / more efficient now? If he was still using the method he used to gain the skill, I could maybe see that (create cursed mana through stamina sacrifice, swing your weapon through it / generate it in the vicinity of your weapon while delivering a strike). But from my understanding the skill automates the process and just creates a weapon coating of cursed mana by sacrificing his stamina. The trait only says that stamina can be used to power spells, nothing of the other way around.

Flusspferd

That's also how I understood it, but equipment might be considered a part of the corpse? We'll have to see him test it out to be sure

Read Isekai

Deadbeat dad trying to avoid child support? 🤣

Read Isekai

It says the remains of one non floor boss enemy may be redeemed. Isn't that the corpse? Not necessarily the enemies' weapons? So probably no blasters, rifles, etc.

Sam

Agreed his mana pool has almost doubled now, also curse generation which used to be wildly inefficient like 10x less efficient a conversion than regular elemental mana just got a MASSIVE boost, so training his cursed slash should also be improved, he can probably use cursed slash in combat waaayy more than before now probably 10-30x more

Read Isekai

That would depend on... Does it apply to more than this delve, and does it apply to other dungeons or only this one?

Read Isekai

The Aura trait isn't temporary. Its just that it's unrelated to other traits that increase skill caps of so it doesn't combine with them, but the aura and bond traits combine with one another. And skill cap traits combine with one another (like Merchant Baron... or Baron Merchant... I forget the order) This trait seems different from either of those traits so It's probably fine? Check chapter 381 for the original explanation from Aranor (this was right after Ajax unlocked his aura) Next to address Janchin if divine witness, Duke and this new achievements skill cap bonuses all combines it would be a limit of 200, not 240 (100 + 50 + 30 + 20) but divine witness might not stack like that and simply the highest bonus overrides the lower bonuses... In that case this part of the achievement was useless to ajax

Read Isekai

That also happens in So I'm a Spider, So What? 😆

Read Isekai

This one might not have a 3x equivalent, [Pick On Someone Your Own Size] didn't have lesser achievements like that... but I could very well be wrong

Read Isekai

Can this achievement be earned multiple times? It doesn't look that way as it wasn't mentioned, it's kinda too bad as there could have probably been an even better trait for him.... With that said this will probably make his cursed slash CONSIDERABLY cheaper to use I would guess, and he can now use stamina to empower [Mana Syphon] at an incredibly efficient rate! No need for a stamina boosting skill, as using 2x boosting skills would probably lead to a pretty crazy amount of self damage? Not to mention he's technically doubled his mana pool For the Dungeon boon... does that only last for this delve? Or only work in this particular dungeon? Or can he from now on always grab 1 extra body worth of materials per dungeon floor? The skill limit increase is mildly unfortunate... with his soon to be Duke trait that would raise his limit to 150... though there is potential that divine witness stacks with the other bonuses rather than overrides them... we'll have to wait and see! Overall though I'm pretty disappointed with this achievement... [Pick On Someone Your Own Size] feels like the better achievement... though I guess most people would consider a +20 to your skill cap pretty absurd

Read Isekai

It should be noted that he could have gotten all the achievements, though in that case he would have only gotten something like half the rewards for all the lesser achievements in the chain, we learned this back when he got [Born Hoarder] I want to say sometime around chapter 52? The reason this didn't happen was because he didn't qualify for the lowest ranked achievement "You're not that tough", He wasn't alone inside a dungeon, you need to qualify for every related achievement for this to happen. The lowest ranked achievement is actually similar in its conditions to [Against Overwhelming Odds] (the achievement that would get rid if his bullying punishement - chapters 177/78)

Read Isekai

It should be noted that he could have gotten all the achievements, though in that case he would have only gotten something like half the rewards for all the lesser achievements in the chain, we learned this back when he got [Born Hoarder] I want to say sometime around chapter 52? The reason this didn't happen was because he didn't qualify for the lowest ranked achievement "You're not that tough", He wasn't alone inside a dungeon, you need to qualify for every related achievement for this to happen. The lowest ranked achievement is actually similar in its conditions to [Against Overwhelming Odds] (the achievement that would get rid if his bullying punishement - chapters 177/78)

Read Isekai

Perhaps there is an Achievement, trait, or perhaps even actual System Patch that allows people to also gain lesser achievements rewards & it works retroactively. A System Patch would have to work for all users but an achievement or trait only has to work for people to receive them. Perhaps there is an achievement for earning the highest achievement of any achievement branch multiple times & the reward is the user now gains all lesser achievements of any past & future achievements. This would allow MC to gain those benefits but also limit how many people can do this.

SpaceGoddess76

TFTC! I honestly hate this achievement system. It heavily punishes people who do amazing things by missing out on the lesser achievements rewards. Most of the lesser achievements are meant to build on top of each other, but when someone achieves the highest achievement 1st they are punished because they don’t have those stacking benefits. (I feel like this achievement system was built before the author thought of any achievements and now he has to stick with it).

SpaceGoddess76

Maybe, until Ajax gets a race change to Ascended human

Teej

Shouldn't he get the rewards for all the lower ranked ones?

Jachin Nelson

😉👍

userunfriendly

Um...no, those are included among the achievements he doesn't qualify for, because he got the better achievement. 😉

userunfriendly

So I bet he picks Mana Siphon for the skill choice

Jachin Nelson

Yep...bringing back just one of those giant spider monsters...I'm reminded of that scene from That Time I Reincarnated as a Slime of them cooking that giant spider...🤤

userunfriendly

👍👍👍

userunfriendly

I can see that, and I do think it needs to be explained in the next chapter.

Ethan Thomas

All skills are capped at 150.

userunfriendly

See my comment for the hilariously overpowered exploit Ajax can now use. 😈😈😈

userunfriendly

I suspect that besides the nobility traits, other traits are (for all intents and purposes) permanent, because they can be (theoretically) stripped away by penalties. That makes them not permanent, (so far as the System sees it) so validly used for a lifetime. 🤔

userunfriendly

Probably that guy who got Marked by an assassin group. 😉. That pretty much insured that they all died...and if he had lucked out and found a Feeder floor, it's no sweat. 😈

userunfriendly

So who was the guy who stayed inside the dungeon for 50 years! Sounds like an uber-hermit who got sick of kids being on his lawn lol.

Teej

Yeah, but for the barren merchant, it also stated that that specifically happens when you are awarded noble titles because those noble titles can be taken away. The aura bond traits also for some reason combine together, so that way you can know where your bond is if they are close by and they are both temporary traits. Considering that divine witness is such a powerful trait, I don’t see it being combined in a way like that. The only way in which I can see him getting that ability is if the system just decides to add the benefit directly on to his trait, considering that it is a Trait as a reward. Or he will get compensated for it somehow. I do think we are going to need a detailed explanation on what exactly happens when you get a reward that is an additional Permanent Trait.

Ethan Thomas

If that is permanent he’s going to be rich with mana infused corpses

Teej

It also said that the traits will combine into a stronger one like aura- bond or Barron-merchant

Teej

I don’t think so, he has to get a higher level of the achievement like killing one 3 times his level to get another one

Teej

Yeah, but if I remember correctly in that chapter it clarified that you can only have 1 Permanent trait and that the Aura Trait and Bond Trait are considered temporary, so they can be added on top of his permanent trait.

Ethan Thomas

I'm pretty sure those skill bonuses stack. Between this, Divine Witness, and being named Duke he could have a max skill of 240. Also I think that 1 trait thing was something told to commoners, because even not including Divine Witness Ajax has 2 (his title and Aura)

Jachin Nelson

So is that achievement repeatable? That way he could defeat different floor bosses for xtra traits.

Eric M

He’s gonna be so rich I don’t see goldmane holding their titles when Ajax starts rolling

Lacrimosa

The Rewards don’t really seem that useful to Ajax The Skill Cap Increase doesn’t matter because of divine witness already allowing all of his skills to go up to Level 150 The Trait Reward is useless because unless it qualifies as a temporary trait he won’t get it. When he got his Aura Trait it was stated that you can only have 1 Permanent Trait. So he won’t get it unless it’s considered a temporary trait. That leaves him with the only really useful thing which is to take one enemy corpse out of the dungeon with him per floor so long as it’s a non boss monster. I’m not sure how this will be addressed or handled in the next chapter. Specifically the trait considering that is something Ajax has been looking for to power his Mana Syphon so he can use all his Mana on spells.

Ethan Thomas

Perfect chance to have named it: 'Look at Me! I'm the Boss Now.' Consider expounding on what weird, retarded things people have done to monsters in the past to try and earn boons? Perhaps MC gets serenaded about elf folk hero 'Jarlax the Ogre Diddler' or the dwarf legend 'Wighty Smith the Leg Collector.' It feels like you keep skipping over too many opportunities to world build by adding depth. Give us legends and folk heroes. Talk about badass dungeon delving teams. Have a mural somewhere memorializing alcohol-related incidents in dungeons. The world just feels really, really empty.

Pope Yoda I

I think Solo Collector is going to see a LOT of use in the future.

Druid

TFTC! 🐶 My bad on that somehow it slipped my mind that the information would have spread like wildfire. Well, there goes my theory that some of the Rangers were ringers from Deepwood. 😂🤣 did remove her plans of a celebratory feast for finally surpassing the level one hundred dungeon bottle neck. BTW, that's HER bottleneck... Lexi: Ajax has been going above level 100 floors for a while now. (smirk) 😈 Arianwyn: Shut up! (he's younger than me, has less levels than me...GAH!) 🤮 more than a location defense artifact or a one shot ambush opening. The Gryndor capital dungeon has just been upgraded! 👍 (that's really where it's needed...incase of an induced Dungeon Break) the healer glance back towards Ajax before his jaw dropped as he noticed the raised middle finger. Is the Raised Middle Finger universal across the Multiverse?! 🤔🙄 “Do you think this will give him a Mythic skill?” Arianwyn finally addressed the elephant in the room. Nope. First of all, I suspect the difference between an Ascended being and trash is an Ascended being has a Mythic skill. Grim Reaper was probably hunting in dungeons for centuries just to get a Mythic skill. That, or he had to trade dozens or all his Legendary skills to get the Mythic skill. I also suspect that GR used magic like Ajax so he was hunting Floor Bosses to copy their pseudo Mythic and Legendary skills. 🤓🤓 Those people had to be slowly awakened a little at a time so the brain could keep up with the body. That sounds like Shock...hmm..🧐 Reward : Skill cap limit increased by 20. This is additive to all other increases up to the limit of 150. Trait : Warrior - Mage (Stamina can now be used to power spells at a 1 : 1 efficiency of mana) The first one is a bust, but very useful for explaining how he reached skill level 150 as a mere Duke, but the second one...combined with Life Mana and Berserker (skill) will allow him to grind offensive magic with UNLIMITED MANA!!! 🤯🤯🤯🤩🤩🤩 Dungeon Boon : Solo collector. (The remains of one non -floor boss enemy may be redeemed in each floor of the dungeon, the remains do not disperse into mana upon exiting the dungeon. Enemies must be defeated alone.) Yay! Now Ajax can collect...blasters, rifles, whatever! This is awesome! 😍 None of the entities helping you may be above half the boss's level. AHA! That's why Ajax hit jackpot despite the Booster Potion! 🫡🫡 “Though I can’t say I’m not disappointed at not being able to gain ‘You’re not that tough.’ I could have used four more skills.” Ah! That sucks. Oh well, Trait: Warrior -Mage and Dungeon Boon are SO much better...😍😍😍 Doubtless a large part of the reward was focused on the 20 skill level cap increase but he had already reached the 150 cap thanks to Divine Witness. R U STUPID?! Berserker (skill) allows you to infinitely replenish your mana. Pick a nice level 30 floor, with melee only monsters. Activate the obelisk. Trigger Siphon and charge your weapons with Lightning. You'll be able to maintain all your spells for HOURS! Do you know how many skill levels in Lightning attribute and Mana Siphon you'll get?! 😱😱😱 ‘Are you lost?’.” the prince explained. “You have to stay on the same dungeon floor for over half a century to get it. The Boon allows you to teleport to the exit arch.” Just what kind of an idiot discovered that one?! 😂🤣😂🤣. Oh, wait, that guy targeted by that Assassins group! 😳😳 Now it makes sense... Ajax took great pleasure in watching their expressions as he shared his rewards with the exception of what his Trait did. Oho! Does Ajax know what his new trait means for training his mana affinities, but is OBVIOUSLY keeping quiet? Good boy! 😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈

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