Chapter 390
Added 2024-08-24 05:52:41 +0000 UTCAfter he didn’t receive an Achievement for pushing his dungeons stat bonus to +100 Ajax hadn’t expected to get one but there it was sitting right in front of his face.
Achievement : Truly Skilled
Gain 100 skills
Reward : Each skill grants +1 to the stat they rely on most.
Each skill grants an additional +1 to the stat they rely on most for each threshold passed.
Slight increase to obtain skills based on already earned skills.
Slight increased speed of skill increase. (Experience gained through skill application increased to compensate for faster leveling skill with less effort.)
“What is it?” the prince asked, slightly worried about Ajax’s reaction.
“Nothing.” Ajax simply waved his question away.
As much as Ajax trusted the royal family with some of his more sensitive secrets he wasn’t yet ready to give away the exact number of skills he had. Ajax was pretty sure they already knew about this achievement anyway, sure it would be extremely unusual for someone as young as him to have it but with hundreds of years people had plenty of time to gain skills.
“Was that something to do with Legendary skills?” the prince pushed a little but when Ajax didn’t answer he just let the topic drop. “Okay, wait here and drink another potion so you recover, there is no rush.”
Ajax simply nodded as he took out another healing potion and put it on the ground near him. It was too soon since his last potion so he would have to wait a short while before it would be safe to take another.
To take his mind off the pain Ajax instead chose to focus on his newest affinity, Vibration. Unlike Life affinity there were so many different ways that Vibration affinity could be used in combat. Unlike regular mages he wasn’t so locked in to the casted spell aspect so he could use Vibration in many different ways.
The main way Ajax planned to add Vibration to his fighting style had nothing to do with anything he had used to unlock the affinity. His plan was to make his sword and axe vibrate really quickly to increase their cutting power, this would require the sword and axe in question to be specifically built for it otherwise they would quickly end up just like his shield had.
The next thing Ajax did once he thought of that was to check if the gauntlet he still had even could channel his Vibration mana, for the first time since he tried using Holy mana Ajax found a mana type that the dragon hadn’t added to the glove. After checking Vibration Ajax thought to also check Life mana, since there was no use in channeling Life mana through his items he hadn’t thought to check before but the glove was also missing a Life mana stone. Ajax was pretty sure now that no Legendary mana types would be there since a Life one would be one of the easier ones to get considering the number of stories he heard about Life based natural treasures.
As soon as Ajax took his potion he also got up, he wasn’t fully healed yet but it was good enough for him to exit the dungeon. He placed his helmet back on his head to hide his ears and he took out a spare shield from his spacial ring. This shield was much weaker than the one he used previously but with the rate his strength was increasing he would need to update his items shortly anyway, especially so considering the increased stats from his Achievement.
As Ajax left the prince to clear the final floor of the dungeon he exited and found himself back in the center of the large containment area built around the dungeon. For once nobody paid him too much attention as he exited the dungeon, the guards simply approached him to get their statement.
Lioriel was quick to intercept them and then lead Ajax towards the rest of his group. As soon as Xavier caught sight of Ajax he started bouncing from foot to foot in excitement, Ajax took this to mean that the plan had worked and now Xavier was both excited and a little nervous about the upcoming duel and had nowhere to channel all the energy before he could confirm his suspicion however he felt [Enigma] activate.
The identification attempt had come from multiple sources, Ajax usually ignored most of the Inspection attempts on himself but something was different about these ones. The most important part was that all of them broke through [Enigma] to certain success.
The identification skills had all come from the group of elves that were around Aranor and while none of them had gotten access to his skill list or stats Ajax felt that two of them were close to getting access to the latter.
Naturally Ajax’s first response was to return the favor as he used his own identification skill [Inspector’s Eye]. For two of the elves Ajax hadn’t managed to get much more than their names, ages and levels. The last one however must have had a weaker privacy skill, more than that [Inspector’s Eye Lvl 25] had managed to pass its threshold after the first two identifications so on the third one Ajax was able to get his entire stat list.
Getting that was a welcome surprise that made the entire interaction much more pleasant so Ajax chose to ignore the elven Champions for now and went to talk to his friends instead, or at least that was his plan.
“What do you think you’re doing?” the last elf asked in a more controlled voice than Ajax would have expected, he guessed the man’s social skills must be working overtime since he hadn’t blown a gasket in anger yet.
“He’s doing the same thing we did to him.” one of the other champions surprisingly took Ajax’s side. “I do have to say his identification skill is stronger than I expected.”
The brief look of embarrassment that passed over the angered elf’s face was all Ajax needed to put the situation together, the others hadn’t caught on that he had seen the man’s stats and was now torn between exposing that fact himself or letting Ajax off the hook. Ajax wasn’t the only one who put that together as both Anna and Benedict had their eyes open wide as their eyebrows made a break for their hairlines for a brief moment as the second elf’s words made them realized that Ajax had gotten access to something more before they also schooled their expressions.
“Best keep to those on your level, kid.” The last elven champion addressed Ajax directly. “You may be an unmatched prodigy but right now any of us could crush you like a bug.”
Ajax wisely chose to keep his mouth shut and simply nod in acknowledgement however all of the other elves surrounding them gasped as they looked between Ajax and the last champion. For them to hear someone of his status call Ajax an unmatched prodigy was shocking.
“How long do you think it will be until my uncle comes out?” Xavier who had barely reigned in his nervous and excited energy enough that he wasn’t hopping from one foot to the other hadn’t really caught the finer details of the exchange and was laser focused on something else.
“It should still be a couple of hours.” Ajax said but he wasn’t completely sure, that would all come down to what the floor boss would be, none of the floor bosses would pose a threat to the prince since they would only be level one hundred and thirty two but depending on what they were it could take him a while to take them down. “I take it from the excitement that the plan worked?”
“It sure did.” Xavier bragged.
While Harold, Arianwyn, Elara and Lioriel were surprised to hear Ajax expose that everything had been planned out, Benedict, Lexi, Anna and even Aranor had caught onto what Ajax was doing as both Lexi and Benedict activated a privacy field around the delving group.
“Except for the small part where he put more on the line if he loses.” Anna quickly cut Xavier down. “What happened in there, you look pretty rough.”
To accentuate Anna’s words Lexi was already giving Ajax a look over as she inspected every dent on his armor to make sure he was really okay.
“I may have taken one or two direct hits from an earth elemental” Ajax waved it off. “Nothing that will kill me.”
“What about the champion?” Elara asked. “What did you learn about him?”
As someone who had felt quite vulnerable under Ajax’s identification skill she had managed to put everything together. The elf’s reaction, Ajax’s exposure of the plan as a misdirection and an excuse to put up a privacy shield all while playing into the stereotype that he was a commoner who didn’t know how to play the noble’s game by revealing the existence of the plan.
“Got a look at his stats.” Ajax said as he didn’t think there was a need to keep that hidden now that Elara had all but called him out for looking. “In my defense they all tried to identify me first.”
The topic quickly changed from there to Xavier’s upcoming duel. Still while Elara simply listened to the conversation she couldn’t help but evaluate Ajax once more. He didn’t have the social skills of a noble and he definitely wasn’t used to the social aspect of nobility, when it came down to thinking like a noble however Ajax was one of the best among their peers.
Comments
Yeah! An extra chapter tonight would be nice....
zxcvjulzs
2024-08-27 08:18:10 +0000 UTCI kinda want him to get attacked a few more times actually. since danger and risk heavily affect skill gains and acquiring new skills he might get a few new ones from helping to kill a few more assassin. the prince has already hinted at a skill he might gain by killing somebody 3 times his level
Teej
2024-08-27 01:10:29 +0000 UTCIt's not all that well know and even if they know about it its very hard for most people to gain skills. getting to 100 skills is something that only the most powerful get to when they are around 600 years old and a lot of those are common skills they got simply by long repeated exposure the same way people with no gift for mana can achive mana detection in ten years of continuous exposure. If they have the stats to live that long and reach that level getting an extra 110-120 stats is not something people focus on since all the time they put into unlocking the skills could be invested into getting their kids other skills higher and getting them to a higher level earlier.
alex bozdog
2024-08-26 19:51:14 +0000 UTCThey are allowed to delve because of a diplomatic incident, picking a fight with someone is still your own fault. Someone targeting him just for who Ajax is would cause a war, still Ajax can't just go around doing whatever he wants within the letter of the law and not expect retaliation.
alex bozdog
2024-08-26 19:47:10 +0000 UTCI think we all want that but they still have a couple more dungeons and some assassination attempts to go 😫
Read Isekai
2024-08-26 16:51:33 +0000 UTCI agree, I want to see Xavier win his duel decisively perhaps pulling out some Royal secrets. It'd be great to see them show off a little
Lila Mali
2024-08-26 16:50:52 +0000 UTCIs it bad I want to be done with this Kingdom in the story? Duel and move on out of this messed up Kingdom.
Lila Mali
2024-08-26 16:49:38 +0000 UTC🥺🥺🥺
Read Isekai
2024-08-26 00:18:36 +0000 UTCBut he also got [Berserker].... which I wouldn't really call a defensive skill. I sorta think the skills from that achievement might be random? Though I guess it could be that physical and mental stat achievements had different skill themes or something?
Read Isekai
2024-08-26 00:06:14 +0000 UTC😂👍🤞🤩
userunfriendly
2024-08-26 00:06:11 +0000 UTCAjax has width, but those old monsters have depth. 🐶
userunfriendly
2024-08-25 23:58:49 +0000 UTCI suspect there is also the option of being able to plug several different gems into the same set of runes to be able to reuse the same runes for multiple spells, like if you make the framework for a lance spell, then you could do Fire Lance, Ice Lance, Earth Lance, etc. by switching out which gem you feed the mana into... but that might not be possible Actually he might already have some larger gems? part of the prize he negotiated with Sylvanthal for his tournament winnings was some mana gems. that was also why he only had 2 spots + his own while the royal family got 5 spots. I only noticed after I randomly decided to reread everything after chapter 297 when the time skip happened
Read Isekai
2024-08-25 23:20:13 +0000 UTCSo since this post got 100 comments do we get an extra chapter tonight???🤣
Max Hoste
2024-08-25 23:20:06 +0000 UTCThey need to find larger and more powerful Jems to add too. All of the jems in Ajax’s glove also boost the effectiveness of his spell by giving it a flat increase in power based on how big the gem is.
Teej
2024-08-25 21:09:27 +0000 UTCThe First Prince is a Hybrid Runic Caster and Xavier is a Hybrid Chanter. The main thing the gloves would accomplish for runic spell blades would be to loosen the restrictions of the ruins on the weapon and trade a little bit of power for more flexibility and number of ruins you’d put on the weapon. As far as a benefit for Xavier. It would only be useful if he has any chants that allowed him to put mana attributes on his weapons. Then it would just strengthen his attacks. It could also just strengthen his normal spells too if he just channeled all of his spells through the gloves. They could even advance the technology and adapt it to fit them better rather then just copying the gloves out right.
Ethan Thomas
2024-08-25 21:00:09 +0000 UTCIf I had to guess about grandpa manashapers legendary skill I have a feeling it would be impossible for lexi to learn it. My guess is it’s an achievement along the same lines as mana skin and can only be gained at the end of the apprentice trait. Ajax learned that having over 800 stats in magical or physical abilities most likely grants a legendary skill at the end of the apprentice trait. The reason I think this, is that mana skin is a purely defensive skill against other types of mana so it goes to reason that the improved versions would be similar.
Teej
2024-08-25 20:52:54 +0000 UTCOoh yeah Benedict learning some stamina based curse skills would be great! Actually now that Ajax has an additional boost to learning skills based on the ones he already has, it would be kind of nice to see him get some more too! For those gauntlets... Would they be changing their casting styles? or simply using the gloves with some new runic gear? the gloves would then elementally attune their mana and fed into the runic gear which could hold more enchantments because the runes don't also need to do the elemental attunement? Ahh wait they could just integrate the gems into their runic gear, they don't need the gloves A new trait for Lexi would be pretty sick as well!
Read Isekai
2024-08-25 20:44:55 +0000 UTCI've started re-reading the series as I had totally forgotten how exp works when it concerns skills. It looks like the answer was hidden within the Child and Apprentice traits! The Child trait has Gaining skills grants Experience. Levelling skills grants Experience. Crafting Experience gain stopped. Killing Experience gain stopped. And the Apprentice Trait Experience earned for doing skill related activities slightly increased. For some reason I thought it was just skills that didn't have to do with fighting monsters or crafting that stopped giving exp, but it looks like all skills stop giving direct exp after you're 10.... Then I thought that you also stop getting exp for skill related activities after 15, as his mother had said that he should level up his drawing skill until he is 15 after which it will stop giving him exp.... Which is actually a bit confusing, Shouldn't it stop after he turns 10? or if the exp for skill related activities continues after age 15, then he'll never really stop getting exp for leveling it persay, as the more he uses it the more exp he'll get? Anyways it doesn't make sense if you stop getting exp for doing skill related activities as then the only way to get exp would be through crafting or killing.... and that wouldn't make sense as then merchants would be unable to level up
Read Isekai
2024-08-25 20:36:50 +0000 UTCI have a few ideas for upgrade paths for the 4 of them up above. 👆🏻 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻
Ethan Thomas
2024-08-25 19:29:03 +0000 UTCThese are the most likely options that I could see for Lexi, Anna, Benedict, and Xavier. Lexi: The only thing I could see Lexi getting is a Trait that would make it easier to gain Mana Aspects, make them easier to level up, and increase their efficiency and level cap. It could be called something along the lines of [Arch Mage] to call back to the Achievement that Ajax got called [Arch Mage Hopeful]. This could then allow her to become the strongest and most diverse [Domain] user to ever exist. Anna: The best way for her to develop would be to lean into her fire tendencies. I think she will definitely get [Space Mana] from Grubby, and she could easily buy [Cold Flames] from the Manashapers to get rid of her weakness to fire based enemies. Could also see a Trait in her future call [Pyromaniac] to help with all of this. Benedict: I could see him learning a stamina based curse skill. He is mainly a physical based fighter with talent for Mana. With a Curse Skill he could use the research the Ajax and Balthasar have been doing as a starting point. Then with Elara having the Witch Trait, he could learn more about Cruses considering there has to be more going on with that. Then he would develop into a better version of the Captain of the 4th with his curse skills. Xavier: He is the hardest to come up with as far as an upgrade path. The simplest thing would be for Ajax to allow for the royal family to get access to his Mana Stone Gauntlets. This would give Xavier and the First Crown Prince and Upgrade that would both be happy with. They are all Hybrid Spell Blades after all.
Ethan Thomas
2024-08-25 19:28:26 +0000 UTCYeah that sounds right, I also hope that she gets at least one of her own legendary skills. I don't think it'll be totally secret given that they already shared a bunch of knowledge with the royal family and whoever else was in the room after Lexi demolished the room they were staying in, in the republic. But I totally agree that it should become a Hearthbound specialty! For Anna I've been hoping she might get a plasma based mana aspect, with some kind of plasma beam that would be pretty cool. What elements would form a plasma ability though... Wind and Fire? Also does she have a Magma Affinity? I feel that there's a chance she'll be compatible with that one.... but I guess she would likely also need an Earth Affinity? As for Xavier and Benedict.... It would be awesome to see something unique for them as well... though I can't think of anything interesting for them. Maybe Xavier will get something cool during this upcoming duel? I'm also really curious how ajax will find either a vibration mana gem or a material that can be attuned to vibration for his future weapons... will he have to wait till he finds a floor in a dungeon that has a lot of earthquakes or something? Also I'm curious as to how he will be prevent the vibrations from transferring to his arm.
Read Isekai
2024-08-25 19:04:17 +0000 UTCI remember the king saying that the kinds of people that unlocked legendary skills are people that are desperate and people that are driven. Lexi would be both so I could see her unlocking a few legendary skills just to keep up with him. Personally, I would like to see them be different skills than things that Ajax has. I could also see the inferiority coming from a place of, “ I am only strong because Ajax helps me. Not because of my own hard work”. But another thing that I just thought of is that Vibration Mana would be a house Harthbound secret/specialty because both of the heads of the house would both have it! ☺️
Ethan Thomas
2024-08-25 18:31:02 +0000 UTCI suspect she won't be able to learn his legendary skill, but it would be really awesome if she managed it, I would guess her desperation to catch up to ajax may make it more likely that she could learn it? Interesting I hadn't even considered that the other ascended races might have much more knowledge on the Divine Language than humanoids, but that would make sense!
Read Isekai
2024-08-25 18:25:07 +0000 UTCThe Number 1 option would be for Duke Manashaper to teach her his Legendary skill that he uses for creating new chants. The one that allows him to stop his chants in the progress of saying them. But I would love to see Ajax encounter the ascended races and to potentially get the method for understanding/ reading the ancient language. He might keep that information to his house or share it. I could see that being one of the main reasons as to why humans are so weak.
Ethan Thomas
2024-08-25 17:58:52 +0000 UTCI'm hoping for the same thing from Lexi, which is why I was so disappointed that she didn't go for the level 69 floor of the last dungeon, even though she already cleared a level 70 floor of the main deepwood dungeon. I was really hoping she would keep pushing herself to try and get the [Pick On Someone Your Own Size] achievement with no handicaps so she could get another Legendary skill, after she was done with all these runs and had pushed all the gains to get a few extra floors in her home dungeons. But it seems after getting her domain she may be less motivated to keep pushing herself like that? Though I am happy that she has a domain now, that's something that ajax won't be going for given his fighting style. Hopefully she'll be able to learn some cool skills like moving and drawing in her domain, especially with Ajax's [Mana Syphon] helping her training.
Read Isekai
2024-08-25 16:47:27 +0000 UTCI also want to see Anna, Xavier, and Benedict, get even stronger. It just feels like Ajax is way too strong and the others can’t even compare. I want to start to see them develop some legendary skills or maybe get some traits that are unique to them. For Example I wanna see Anna unlock a trait call “Pyromaniac” which would increase the effectiveness and strength of all mana aspects that have fire as a base. And increase the ease of gaining fire base skills. I would also like to see her buy the cold Flames spell/mana aspect from the manashapers We also can’t forget the possibility of her getting Space Mana from Her bond Grubby.
Ethan Thomas
2024-08-25 15:15:03 +0000 UTCI want to see Keleros lean more into Lexi’s insecurity about being left behind behind by Ajax. I would love to see that insecurity be expressed again when Ajax tells Lexi that he unlocked vibration mana. But more importantly, I want to see him and or her do something about it. I want Lexi to have something as far as skills or a trait goes that Ajax does not have. I want to see her catch up a little bit rather than be completely left behind like everyone else. After all, she is inevitably going to be his wife.
Ethan Thomas
2024-08-25 15:07:37 +0000 UTCI was literally thinking the same thing lol
Read Isekai
2024-08-25 09:50:51 +0000 UTCI'm still hoping for the space station theme and a drone or space gun that he can take out of the dungeon. There'd be some serious skills recreating something technologically advanced. Especially want him to do another floor like that with a party. He'd have to admit to some knowledge about his past...tertially
Silver Beard
2024-08-25 03:53:25 +0000 UTCFeel bad for the author- now he's got to sort 100 skills by flavor; even more to keep up with. Sure you could just boost his hidden trait by a lot and call it done?
Silver Beard
2024-08-25 03:51:47 +0000 UTCDoes anyone else kinda want to see a Marvel Universe dungeon floor now so Ajax can get a captain America shield made out of vibranium? Perfect for his new mana type since he has no good way of channeling it through his weapons yet without potentially destroying them.
Teej
2024-08-25 02:30:32 +0000 UTCI'm patient- wait see how the author spins it next few weeks; right now we are all going nuts over nothing. Ajax has yet to benefit from his achievement in any way. Achievement he told nobody about, so any editing will have minimal impact. (side note- if it had been retro-active; he'd be one messed up kid about now with his stats in flux all over. Remember when he finally used his points at age 15? he couldn't walk, talk, or move correctly. I read none of that happening after he got it.) Looking forward to future releases. Thanks for the chapter
Silver Beard
2024-08-25 01:51:55 +0000 UTCAs a hillbilly who can read and use context clues I’ll help you out😉 “with the rate his strength was increasing he would need to update his items shortly anyway, especially so considering the increased stats from his Achievement.” Idk how much more clear that can be… You may want to pay more attention before you jump to comment in the future, cause I’d say it’s more “crazy hill-Billy shit ridiculous” to be negative for no reason towards people for just being excited, especially when you’re wrong…
GSA
2024-08-25 01:11:45 +0000 UTCYou are probably right about the adventurers, but that is not contradicting my point. Fighting and hopefully defeating (but potentially even getting injured, think about resistance skills) is absolutely a skill related activity for adventurers, assuming they have some fighting styles. With both difficulty and danger being two out of three factors that further impact experience gains, fighting ist likely the number one source of experience for adventurers. Skill gains are worth zero experience for everyone, as that experience gain stopped when the child trait ended. However, doing things that are related to your skills , I.e. something where you are using your skills, is now the sole source of experience. That is why it was mentioned early on that crafters tend to level further than fighters, because they always have ways of channeling themselves. In regards to the equipment, there was something about higher level gear being heavier / more difficult to move in, see his first tournament fight as well as Oliver’s reaction to him testing the various armor pieces needed to stay underground
Flusspferd
2024-08-24 22:47:40 +0000 UTCI very highly doubt that, to be honest. There are two main reasons for this: 1. while we don‘t actually know their exact levels, I personally assume them to be in the 150+ range due to the fact that just the counter-spy guys where somewhere around 130, while not being part of a squad, not even the 10th. 2. I don‘t actually think he can make up with skills. Sure, he has higher rarity skills than most of the others, but there are two things to consider. First, his lower tier skills are close, but not even at their maximum (based on stat caps on skills), which is lower than the stat cap determined maximum skill level for the squads, because they are up quite a couple of stats. Maybe not total, but in the stats that support their skills (probably mostly pure mages and pure physical fighters, few hybrids). And with a couple of centuries to train, they should all have their main skills close to their maximum. Second, his higher tier skills, which could potentially bridge the gap, are nowhere near their respective capstones and most of them also still lack their milestone upgrades, which really help to elevate the power of these skills.
Flusspferd
2024-08-24 22:31:13 +0000 UTCI have a feeling Ajax would almost fit into the 4th or 5th squad of kingdom elites at this point. Even if he is lacking stats he can make up for that with his skills
Teej
2024-08-24 21:09:30 +0000 UTCI would assume that mana aspect skills and Alchemy would require intellect or wisdom. Things like weapon skills, farming and blacksmith be strength or dexterity. Mana manipulation and control skills might be mind. Not sure how many skills would require vitality besides resistance skills like poison and curse.
Teej
2024-08-24 21:04:21 +0000 UTCTheir probably could have been more options like increased privacy penetration, increased access to skills or stats, or increased Subtlety it prevent people from knowing he inspected them but only the achievement for the first time He breaks through a threshold does he get all of those options immediately. Mostly he has to wait at the threshold until he gets the option that he wants to choose and it only takes a few moments to select it once he gets what he wants. That’s at least how I understand it.
Teej
2024-08-24 20:47:52 +0000 UTCAlso it took me a bit to understand why you were saying 11% lol, but nice you factored in the extra stat potion he periodically gets to take
Read Isekai
2024-08-24 20:44:11 +0000 UTCThose are both excellent points! And yeah as opposed to level requirements for gear I think if anything it probably has a kind of stat requirements, otherwise I don't see why you wouldn't just use level 200 gear. I was actually thinking that most of an adventurers exp was from killing monsters, and skill gains didn't matter nearly as much once you were allowed exp from monsters.... but you could well be right about that, it's certainly still important for Craftsmen after all.
Read Isekai
2024-08-24 20:39:20 +0000 UTCIt’s 1 skill point for every skill he has and/or gets, not for every skill level. He also gets an extra skill point when a skill passes a threshold.
Ethan Thomas
2024-08-24 19:19:14 +0000 UTCTo an extent, yes, but I would argue that there are two mitigating factors: The 11% additional stats make up for this to an extent (11% because the divine witness stats also allow for more potion stats, so we end up with 1.1 * 1.1 = 1.21 compared to 1.1 from just stat potions). Those bonus stats slow levelling down even further but levels in and of themselves are worthless, stats and skill levels are the determining factor of someone’s power (there are plenty of RPGs where this is different, mainly if gear has level requirements, but that does not seem to be the case, Ajax used level 60 gear on their first trip to the empire without any issues). This results in a lower level for any given level of power, potentially opening up further achievements. The larger factor however is the increased skill inclination. Experience (after the child trait anyway) is gained for any skill related action. The amount is subject to various factors as discussed before but at its core that still means that having more skills results in a higher experience gain, simply because a larger portion of your actions are skill related. This obviously saturates at some point, given that there are only so many hours in a day…
Flusspferd
2024-08-24 19:18:18 +0000 UTCI don't see any language to suggest that is retroactive which is what most are crowing about.
Silver Beard
2024-08-24 19:05:07 +0000 UTCHe can now acquire tertiary skills related to what he already has. Nuance, grace, tone, subtlety, etc. The list is inifine- he could gain all of them as separate skills... and what...get more stat points for every skill level? He's about to be very broken
Silver Beard
2024-08-24 18:47:20 +0000 UTCIs that acquiring the skill or every skill level?
Silver Beard
2024-08-24 18:45:07 +0000 UTCIn my opinion, the wording is pretty clear cut. Every skill grants +1… does not leave much room for interpretation. Apart from that, while the power boost is definitely substantial, the immediate gains are slightly above the bonuses he gets from delving a capital dungeon, so it doesn‘t exactly break the system either.
Flusspferd
2024-08-24 18:41:35 +0000 UTCWhy is almost every comment I read like the achievement is automatically retro active to everything he's done to date?! I don't recall seeing anything that would suggest that. I'm all for Ajax to be powerful, but this crazy hill-billy shit is ridiculous.
Silver Beard
2024-08-24 18:26:35 +0000 UTCYeah...but Ajax is young enough to fully take advantage of these rather obscene stats. Stats are only really a cheat early in a person's life because you can delve further. He might go another 20 floors safely with an extra 100 stats, with the Prince as booster. 😳🤯. That's literally insane...😈
userunfriendly
2024-08-24 17:51:38 +0000 UTCActually.... wait.... Wouldn't his [Divine Witness] trait cause the same issue? that trait also makes it easier to level up skills, but doesn't compensate with bonus exp. Also skills have soft caps based on stats. So the max level of his skills would still have a soft capped based on his stats... though his stats are pretty crazy, but some of his skills are kinda getting close to the soft caps. Keleros once explained it on his discord but the cap is 4x the stat that most relates to the skill in question or 5x for a different related stat. This is calculated every 10 levels so once you break say the level 30 barrrier you can make it all the way up to level 39 of a skill until you hit the next cap. So to continue with the previous example reach level 40 in a skill you would need 160 in the stat that most closely relates to that stat, or 200 in another related stat. Ajax's soft caps are mostly near 100 at this point though so it's not too much of a worry at the moment. plus if his skills get too strong... couldn't he just move to the next level of a dungeon? though i guess as level gaps between floors increase it might become more difficult to simply progress to the next floor?
Read Isekai
2024-08-24 16:27:17 +0000 UTCId agree with you about the age but previous achievements that had a cutoff mentioned then I'm the description so that makes me believe it's just not something people considered because most people without his divine witness can't obtain that many before their ancient old people or middle aged elves probably. 🤷♂️
Scott Frederiksen
2024-08-24 13:39:41 +0000 UTCah yeah you're right, for some reason I thought the "Experience earned for doing skill related activities slightly increased." from his apprentice trait was the same, but that one appears to be a lesser version, as now he gets a bonus to leveling speed and exp 👍
Read Isekai
2024-08-24 10:53:04 +0000 UTCIn general I agree, they are very similar. There is however one crucial details. Skill levelling speed wasn’t improved z.B. his apprentice trait, which is now increased. At the same time his experience gain is increased similar to his apprentice years which is of utmost importance as without that the achievement would screw you over big time. Remember, if things become too easy, say through very high skill levels, your Experimente gain drops of a cliff.
Flusspferd
2024-08-24 10:31:32 +0000 UTCRead Isekai is correct in my opinion. The naming in the chapter seems fine to me, Anna, Lexi, Benedict and Xavier are all still with him, but Elara (the storm domain elf from the tournament) is reevaluating Ajax.
Flusspferd
2024-08-24 10:23:07 +0000 UTCWait isn't Anna, Lexi's best friend that is diving with them? Do you mean Alana who is back home?
Read Isekai
2024-08-24 09:58:22 +0000 UTCI'm guessing there was probably only 1 option, and he took it. Then he inspected the last elf?
Read Isekai
2024-08-24 09:56:25 +0000 UTCIt says about Inspector Eye passing a threshold after the two inspections, but wouldn't it be like Syphon where he has to choose a bonus? So the threshold would be unlocked but waiting?
Tom
2024-08-24 09:45:58 +0000 UTCI'm assuming his restriction skill can help him out with that. Great time to flex it and see if he can't get more stats trying to adjust to getting more stats 😂
Kanyau
2024-08-24 08:51:22 +0000 UTCHonestly this feels kind of similar to his [Prodigal Apprentice] trait except it's permanent. Prodigal Apprentice - Temporary trait -Status points allocated increased by 20% -Aging stopped for the duration. -Ease of forcibly increasing stat points greatly increased. -Experience earned for doing skill related activities slightly increased. -Ease of adapting to increase in stat points massively increased. -Ease of unlocking new skills on the basis of skills earned before gaining this trait slightly increased. -Status becomes harder to reveal or approximate making appraisal and scan abilities harder to use.
Read Isekai
2024-08-24 08:31:03 +0000 UTCI'm going to guess that it's probably not very well known for the Humanoid races, but the other ascended races that live considerably longer it is probably relatively known. But who knows 🤷♂️
Read Isekai
2024-08-24 08:25:20 +0000 UTCToo bad he didn't get a mythic level skill, I was also hoping he would get like +5-10 to all stats for getting 5 legendary skills.... but +115 or 5.75 levels worth of stats is nothing to scoff at! that'll probably help him push an extra floor that he otherwise wouldn't have been able to push for. Not to mention he'll be able to take and additional +11(soon to be +12 as he has 10 skills very close to a threshold) in stat boosting potions now. I can almost hear Elijah, Judy and Alana groan at the cost of the potions, as once stats are past 350 it's suppose to get real expensive and I don't think ajax can yet make potions at that level? - Though his endurance and Perception (His dump/potion stats) are only around ~330 before this achievement.... so they are probably not yet at 350? Lets reread his [Divine Witness] trait quickly too... “Divine Witness - Permanent trait Affinity with all skills greatly increased. Ease of levelling skills increased. Ease of forcibly gaining stat points slightly increased. Stat points gained per level increased by 2. Skill level limits increased by 50. This trait cannot be forcibly revealed.” This achievement probably stacks with this trait so it should be even easier for him to get new skills, as well as leveling his skills!
Read Isekai
2024-08-24 08:19:39 +0000 UTCI wonder how well known this Truly Skilled is. One would think all nobles would be encouraging their kids to trying their hands at absolutely everything in hopes of them getting dozens of skills. Common knowledge of the existence of Truly Skilled would imply an abundance of hopeful jacks and jills of all trades.
John Anastacio
2024-08-24 08:14:56 +0000 UTCAh you're right it said "stat list" I though that was skill list for some reason
Read Isekai
2024-08-24 08:10:16 +0000 UTCI'm a bit confused as to which stat is most related to which skill, technically any of the mental stats could be associated with mana aspects for instance. We would need a better explanation... or to see his stat sheet again to extrapolate more
Read Isekai
2024-08-24 08:08:42 +0000 UTC+115 stats, and he's close to getting another +10
Read Isekai
2024-08-24 08:06:25 +0000 UTCI count 15 skills at are at/past the first threshold... 1. sense mana(U), 2. expel mana(U), 3. manipulate mana(R), 4. inject mana(R) 5. Fire mana(R) 6. Water mana(R) 7. Air mana(R) 8. Earth mana(R) 9. Light mana(R) 10. Shadow mana(R) 11. Dungeon crafter(R) 12. Mana augmentation(E) 13. Mana syphon(L) 14. Enigma(L) 15. Inspectors eye(L) Then 10 that are super close A. Meditation(U) - 69 B. Spot weakness(R) - 46 C. Mana Skin(R) - 48 D. Mana Conjuration(E) - 46 E. Magma mana(E) - 48 F. Lightning mana(E) - 48 G. Ice mana(E) - 48 H. Metal mana(E) - 48 I. Holy mana(E) - 47 J. Void mana(E) - 48 Mana Syphon is also approaching the second threshold.
Read Isekai
2024-08-24 08:04:00 +0000 UTCAh good point I didn't even factor in his other stats having a boost on his longevity, chances are his life expectancy is very similar to duke youngs, and is only going to increase from here
Read Isekai
2024-08-24 07:50:20 +0000 UTCLet's hope that this new achievement allows him to unlock a bunch of new abilities like higher rarity weapon skills, a new style skill, maybe a stamina boosting skill? Improved mana sensing skills, etc.
Read Isekai
2024-08-24 07:49:17 +0000 UTCVitality is the main stat to decrease aging but physical stats also have a decent impact on how long you live
Teej
2024-08-24 07:47:48 +0000 UTCIf it was just about the stats, we have seen similar ones, like „born hoarder“.
Flusspferd
2024-08-24 07:47:30 +0000 UTCHis leveling speed is about to increase slightly too with that increase exp.
Teej
2024-08-24 07:44:37 +0000 UTCWe can assume that his current vitality is probably a bit less than half Duke Young's would have been at the same age, given we know that he dumped everything into vitality. Ajax is a bit younger than xavier who is level 42, so lets say the duke would have been level 40 at this age he would have had 40*20+base vitality+delving bonuses = 800 + ~40? + ?? = let's say ~875 while ajax is at 404 + whatever he got from this achievement which is still very high, plus if ajax keeps levelling at this pace he will probably eventually surpass the duke so I would expect them to have similar base life expectancies in the end Though once ajax start solo delving more I feel the chance of him getting various life increasing fruits or other boosts will increase as well
Read Isekai
2024-08-24 07:44:19 +0000 UTCOnly thresholds, so every skill plus how many times he’s broken through a threshold
Teej
2024-08-24 07:41:50 +0000 UTCThe fuck is that achievement? That is like 150 stats with all the thresholds he has. Holg shit dude.
Frardowin
2024-08-24 07:41:32 +0000 UTCIs it every time he raises a skill or just at evolution thresholds? Both seems a little too OP honestly.
Silver Beard
2024-08-24 07:38:55 +0000 UTCYeah I'm also pretty sure there wasn't a holy stone so this wasn't the first time a stone was missing.
Read Isekai
2024-08-24 07:38:48 +0000 UTCHe got 12 floors in the main dungeon, or 12*8=96 point so its not too far off that, plus if we think about it as a percentage of his stats would be 115/3003 (denominator includes stat gains from this dungeon but not the achievement, I'm also assuming he didn't level up as he was pretty low exp last we saw). Or about 3.83% which isn't that large of a relative boost
Read Isekai
2024-08-24 07:36:56 +0000 UTCOnly the stats, but even there I assume he only shares them with the prince and maybe sells them to Aranor.
Flusspferd
2024-08-24 07:35:25 +0000 UTCTruuuue….he needs at least 2 layers of increased talent buffs to have a chance of unlocking social skills. 😂😂😂😂
Teej
2024-08-24 07:33:11 +0000 UTCAh. 👍
userunfriendly
2024-08-24 07:29:53 +0000 UTCSo Ajax's issue isn't that he lacks social/noble competence. It's that he lack the cheat codes... Interesting. Also, did he get +1 int from Inspector's Eye? This new achievement may just be the push he needs to start actually putting effort into social skills. Numbers go up!
Kanyau
2024-08-24 07:29:49 +0000 UTCI am not sure about the longevity part, as I don‘t really see how a skill primarily relies on vitality, which is the best stat to increase lifespan, but every little bit helps. From my perspective, the main reward he got is the increased ease of getting skills that are based on those he already has. If I recall correctly, these skills are usually one or more tiers above the already obtained skills (like how swords is common, but it’s specialisation, e.g. longswords, is uncommon. With the approximate level gap between skill grades (30 between common and uncommon,… ) getting those higher tier skills should be a massive boon, both for his combat prowess but also when he branches out in his crafting. I think it was mentioned fairly early on that Ajax plans to delve so deep, that no one can reliably use the materials he finds anymore which would force him to become self-reliant in his crafting. He picked alchemy first because he couldn’t afford the stat potions while he can still rely on other crafters for armour and weapons. That being said, if he sticks with his current load-out he will need to improve leatherworking (for his armor), blacksmithing (for weapons and armor parts) and potentially pick up a bowyer skill. All of these would benefit heavily from adjunct skills as his alchemy already does. Increased ease in picking them up should speed that along massively.
Flusspferd
2024-08-24 07:29:18 +0000 UTCfrom chapter 380 he had 2 uncommon at 75, 9 rare at/over 50, 1 epic at 50, and 3 legendaries at/over 25 (including inspectors eye which only just hit threshold) so 113 points most of which are probably spread into mental stats
Robothaus
2024-08-24 07:28:28 +0000 UTCYeah but once they are out of the kingdom maybe a list of all his skills and stats just so happen to be mailed to every noble house of every kingdom? 🤭
Read Isekai
2024-08-24 07:26:10 +0000 UTCYah he’s not exactly doubling his stats like the first few times he did this
Teej
2024-08-24 07:18:58 +0000 UTCWe know how to kill tree forts now. Just kill their bond😈
Teej
2024-08-24 07:16:38 +0000 UTCBut they won't though cause no one wants to fight them cause the tree forts. Makes them too strong apparently.
Daniel S
2024-08-24 07:14:47 +0000 UTCThen everybody marches into Darkwood and destroys it. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😈😈😈
userunfriendly
2024-08-24 07:13:42 +0000 UTCboth holy and light confuse me cause light can be use as actual light but also healing spells, i would expect water for that but light mana just works somehow
Robothaus
2024-08-24 07:13:38 +0000 UTCLol you're right. And if blood is spilled Ajax is probably dead anyway cause he's a bug just like the champion said. Then the kingdom can go oh no champion you did a naughty thing go to jail. Oops Ajax is dead sorry. Perfect crime no consequences
Daniel S
2024-08-24 07:12:30 +0000 UTCI want to read this so called treaty that they broke and find out how many violations they have at this point. It started off by using a social skill to force information out of him and quickly turned into attempted kidnapping and death threats
Teej
2024-08-24 07:12:08 +0000 UTCHe might live as long as the old librarian with How many stats he’s getting at such a young age. This achievement will also help push him to break through even more thresholds and unlock every skill he can learn about.
Teej
2024-08-24 07:10:27 +0000 UTCIt only counts if blood is spilled. 🙄🙄😱
userunfriendly
2024-08-24 07:04:12 +0000 UTCBut compared to his overall stats, it should be under 10%...🤔🧐
userunfriendly
2024-08-24 07:03:22 +0000 UTCAh...so it is between 120-140. 👍
userunfriendly
2024-08-24 07:02:04 +0000 UTCSo they are basically on a diplomatic mission cause of the issue the elf kingdom caused and one of their champions gets to threaten Ajax's life and nothing happens? No response from the guard commander who's supposed to be trying to keep Ajax safe? I hate this kingdom every person in it is shittier than the last
Daniel S
2024-08-24 07:00:06 +0000 UTCThis is a valid point, he just gained ~113 stat points. Although he may be used to it since a capital dungeon gives him +70 stat points from clear bonuses
Teej
2024-08-24 06:59:36 +0000 UTCI counted 13 from the last time we got the stat sheet and included the ones I know broke through since then.
Teej
2024-08-24 06:57:50 +0000 UTCAnd getting this Achievement so early means he can really binge out on potions, and delve even deeper... This is a cheat! 😱🤯😈🐶
userunfriendly
2024-08-24 06:56:01 +0000 UTCHmmm...I supposed we have to wait for a character sheet. 🐶
userunfriendly
2024-08-24 06:53:40 +0000 UTCI also agree that that this is either kept very secret or the information is lost because nobody has done it in centuries. People usually don’t push so hard on this many different skills because nobody is talented enough to unlock all of them
Teej
2024-08-24 06:50:41 +0000 UTCCould be, but still, gaining 100 skills has to be rare even for people centuries old, don’t have a ton to compare it to besides his parents skills at the beggining, but I doubt there’s an age requirement, more it’s something like trailblazer, some details just got lost since it’s been a long time since anyone got it?
GSA
2024-08-24 06:46:15 +0000 UTCYa but there is no threshold for common skills none of his uncommon are at 75 yet. All he has so far are his mana skills a few epic skills and 2 legendary skill threshold breakthroughs
Teej
2024-08-24 06:46:07 +0000 UTCSee my comment. I think it's age dependent, and has to be gotten at an early age. Otherwise he'd have run across it during research...🤔
userunfriendly
2024-08-24 06:39:54 +0000 UTCAjax remarked that the existence of a Holy mana stone had sone disturbing implications. 😳
userunfriendly
2024-08-24 06:38:50 +0000 UTCMissed that completely. 😂
userunfriendly
2024-08-24 06:37:57 +0000 UTCYou're right! 😳
userunfriendly
2024-08-24 06:37:34 +0000 UTCCloser to 200 at least. He's pushed his combat stats high for the Tournament. 🧐
userunfriendly
2024-08-24 06:36:56 +0000 UTCAt the end of the chapter, the author confuses Elara and Anna. I was wondering what she was doing here, when the last I heard she is back at home.
Sondadir
2024-08-24 06:33:45 +0000 UTCI think it’s closer to 120-140 stats and I’m assuming all of them increase the amount of stat potions he can take so add 10% to that.
Teej
2024-08-24 06:33:35 +0000 UTCAlso, shouldn’t he be adjusting to the new power level at least a little? That’s a ton of stats even if his stats are pretty high!
GSA
2024-08-24 06:31:13 +0000 UTCIf I remember well there was no holy mana on Ajax gaunlet.
atome 4 000
2024-08-24 06:27:09 +0000 UTCI was expecting him to be able to choose another leg skill, but I guess if it’s something people can get with old age, it makes sense! But that many stat points is insane while at such a low level!
GSA
2024-08-24 06:21:24 +0000 UTCTFTC! 😳 Reward : Each skill grants +1 to the stat they rely on most. Each skill grants an additional +1 to the stat they rely on most for each threshold passed. Did he just get a free 300 to 400 stat points?! (If I recall, he's pushed most of them past the first threshold) 🤩🤯😍 Slight increase to obtain skills based on already earned skills. Slight increased speed of skill increase. (Experience gained through skill application increased to compensate for faster leveling skill with less effort.) These should STACK with Divine Witness...he's gotten Prodigal Apprence back! 🤩 Ajax was pretty sure they already knew about this achievement anyway, sure it would be extremely unusual for someone as young as him to have it but with hundreds of years people had plenty of time to gain skills. Not if it's dependent on AGE...I'm guessing there's a cutoff, because otherwise EVERYONE would get this achievement, so he should have come across it during research. 🤔🧐 Unlike regular mages he wasn’t so locked in to the casted spell aspect so he could use Vibration in many different ways. Vibration Sword! That familiar staple of Isekai novels...get it up to ultrasonic levels, and chop up major monsters. 😈 His plan was to make his sword and axe vibrate really quickly to increase their cutting power, this would require the sword and axe in question to be specifically built for it otherwise they would quickly end up just like his shield had. Hopefully the dragon had included a Vibration mana crystal. 🤞(btw, I totally called it. 🐶) Ajax was pretty sure now that no Legendary mana types would be there Given the immense power of Legendary mana affinities, I'm guessing a crystal powerful enough to reduce the degradation of his weapons would be too big and thus wouldn't fit into a bracer. 🙄 The most important part was that all of them broke through [Enigma] to certain success. WUT?! 😳 Ajax felt that two of them were close to getting access to the latter. Their probe skills are at least high level epic...😱 Naturally Ajax’s first response was to return the favor as he used his own identification skill [Inspector’s Eye]. 😈 “What do you think you’re doing?” the last elf asked in a more controlled voice than Ajax would have expected, he guessed the man’s social skills must be working overtime since he hadn’t blown a gasket in anger yet. Ajax: What you did to me. Except I'm better than you are. 😈😂 the others hadn’t caught on that he had seen the man’s stats and was now torn between exposing that fact himself or letting Ajax off the hook. the others HAD caught on that he had seen the man’s stats and was now torn between exposing that fact himself or letting Ajax off the hook. (this is the only way that this passage makes sense)🧐 “You may be an unmatched prodigy but right now any of us could crush you like a bug.” Ajax: The day I'm "crushed like a bug" Darkwood DIES. 😈 For them to hear someone of his status call Ajax an unmatched prodigy was shocking. Ajax: I have more Legendary skills than all of you put TOGETHER. 😈 Champions: ... 😡🤬 “Except for the small part where he put more on the line if he loses.” Anna quickly cut Xavier down. “What happened in there, you look pretty rough.” Ajax: 🖐️ Everyone: Motherf...😳😱🤯😵💫 an excuse to put up a privacy shield all while playing into the stereotype that he was a commoner who didn’t know how to play the noble’s game by revealing the existence of the plan. Elara, you're giving Ajax too much credit. There's no subtle thinking here. Some people tried to push Ajax around, so he pushes back. He knows they can't touch him, otherwise Darkwood's neighbors will gang up on it, so he knew it was safe to do so. Ajax is not playing the noble game, he's playing a WARRIOR'S game. 🫡⚔️ “Got a look at his stats.” Ajax said as he didn’t think there was a need to keep that hidden now that Elara had all but called him out for looking. “In my defense they all tried to identify me first.” Oh, Ajax, we really gotta work on your sense of Self Preservation. This is like walking into a bar full of a Biker Gang and calling them "Sissies!" 😳🙄😱😵💫 when it came down to thinking like a noble however Ajax was one of the best among their peers. As I said above, Ajax is a Warrior. Once he recognizes this this a Battlefield, he thinks tactically, and aggressively. ⚔️🫡
userunfriendly
2024-08-24 05:54:48 +0000 UTC