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Broken Silicon 151: R7 5800X3D vs i7-12700K, Zen 4 vs Raptor Lake, 600w Lovelace | Hardware Numb3rs

We discuss the price/performance of AMD Zen 3D vs Intel Alder Lake, and the future of CPUs!


0:00 Who is Max?  What type of Overclocking does he do?

5:52 Zen+ vs Zen 2 IPC at 5GHz, Rocket Lake vs Comet Lake at 6GHz

15:36 R7 5800X3D Overclocking - Does it even need fast RAM?

19:50 R7 5800X3D vs Alder Lake - Who should buy what?  For what price?

37:04 Which Zen 4 Models will likely get Vcache?

40:06 Zen 4 vs Raptor Lake - Who do we think will win?

46:28 Buy now…or wait for Zen 4?

58:34 Do PC Gamers need to change how they think about upgrading?

1:05:01 0.1% vs 1% Lows – Which is more important for smooth framerates?

1:12:40 What if Intel wouldn't have gotten lazy?

1:18:03 What does overclocking gain you on average?

1:22:30 Does Intel have a 3D Stacking advantage? What do we think about Apple?

1:30:03 What will devs do with Zen 4 & Meteor Lake's insane performance?

1:33:13 Can APUs realistically replace the low end GPU market?

1:36:31 Max has a 600w 3090 Kingpin - how is the heat?


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Previous Episode with Hardware Numb3rs: https://youtu.be/vm3VvEYyPrw

At 6GHz Rocket Lake did overtake Comet Lake notably: https://youtu.be/0K0ICpbssTk

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/213801/intel-core-i911900h-processor-24m-cache-up-to-4-80-ghz.html

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/225916/intel-core-i912900ks-processor-30m-cache-up-to-5-50-ghz.html

Original MLID Raptor Lake Leak: https://youtu.be/YCRoo0tqJL4

Raptor Lake Update: https://youtu.be/y3nxqq6Q9mY?t=568

100% Zen 4 will run all-core above 5GHz, they proved it: https://youtu.be/_jX-hKvUQDU?t=2353

https://youtu.be/O0gbfvJDsv4?t=321

https://tpucdn.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d/images/relative-performance-games-1920-1080.png

https://tpucdn.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d/images/relative-performance-cpu.png

https://youtu.be/hBFNoKUHjcg?t=1153

Broken Silicon 151: R7 5800X3D vs i7-12700K, Zen 4 vs Raptor Lake, 600w Lovelace | Hardware Numb3rs

Comments

I still don't see why we need above 60 FPS for gaming. From what I've tested, I cannot see, or feel, any difference. So what's the point? I'd rather save the power and jack up the graphics settings, or go with a lower tier graphics card and still hit 60 FPS.

Athena Azuraea


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