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The Sopranos S6. E21


The Sopranos S6. E21

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omg you have to watch Entourage! (HBO)

A LINUS ADVENTURE

Great point about it being Tony's fav scene if all time. Wow. Perfect writing ✍️ 👌

D-nastiest1intheroom

ironically, bobby seen, heard and felt all of it when he got taken out.

Nelson Savage

Brilliant ending. Another boss will take over and so the same shit continues.

Arjan Pelle

Remember when Bobby and Tony were on the lake after they beat each other up? They were talking about getting whacked and Bobby said, "they say you don't even hear it when it happens. Everything just fades to black.." after years of being nagged, David chase says that to t does get killed by the hitman wearing the members only jacket when he comes out the bathroom but he wants thw audience to interpret it for himself.

D-nastiest1intheroom

Was it not implied that Paulie was about to get it when Tony left him at the table sunning, the guys were coming up the street and the “evil” cat walked into the frame? And I had forgotten the ending, although idk how! Yes, I absolutely got the feeling that bathroom guy was gonna take Tony out right in front of all his family right there in that restaurant.

Carol Rocha

What happened after the movie cut to black is open to interpretation, as it was intended,,never mind the commenters who claim to know, they don’t know. Characters in a movie only do what the writers write, they stopped writing, end of story.

Michael Barker

I watched this with you guys the whole way. My interpretation of what we are shown is that Tony was killed by the guy in the bathroom, much like Michael Corleone came out of the bathroom in the Godfather and killed whoever it was. It goes lights out because it's from Tony's perspective. The guy in the bathroom came out and shot Tony in the head. They even flashed back to Bobby talking about hunting and about the deer never even knows it happens. That's my explanation/interpretation and I'm stickin' to it.

Dan Gonya

So, was it deliberate that the "ending" waited for Meadow to park the car and enter the building? I think so... Tony, was actually meeting her gaze as she came in. Horrific in all the ways and tactics of these criminals-- spare the family, but don't spare them. Tony's head was blown off at that exact moment, the audience was ambushed too.

Quiche

Also, tony certainely died. The show is riddled with godfather references, and the most famous scene (and tonys favorite scene of all time) is when michael goes to the bathroom to grab a gun to kill someone in the resteraunt (where members only jacket guy goes), which is also at 3 oclock from tony. sopranos is a very religious show, and when christopher temporarily dies in season 2 from gunshots he sees the devil who tells him to tell tony to watch out for 3 o clock. Also, the picture of the house tony goes to in his coma (the afterlife) is literally a photo hung on the wall. and bobby says earlier in the season that "you probably dont even hear it when it happens", a scene that was also literally repeated in another episode, both in this season. also, the show is from tonys perspective, more and more progressively so, in tone, dreams, and importance, and the show ends as soon as he would presumedly get killed; no heard gunshot, because the show ends when tony does. Meadow is also tonys gaurdian angel time and again in the show in more ways than i can bring up here, but she is just a second too late, tony dying right before she can walk through the door.

Eligh Te

love you guys' reactions! totally off about agent harris though. Since he switched fom mob investigations to terrorism (many federal agents did after 9/11, much less heat on domestic crime like the mob), he used his former knowledge on how much he knew tony knew to gain info on possible middle eastern criminals. But since he switched, he became more and more buddy-buddy with tony and the guys, and by the finale he is so far invested in New Jersey over new york in the war going on that he gives away phils location to be killed, sleeping with another agent presumedly to get that info. He gives up his motive when he realizes hes the only one that has such sentimental feelings toward the new jersey family when he says "WERE going to win this thing!". he got way too invested in the addicting story of the mob, just like dr melfi does throughout the show continuing to enjoy hearing tonys stories more and more.

Eligh Te

I’m just watching this again and at the end when tony walks into the restaurant he walks in with a leather jacket and looks at himself sitting at the table

Andre Anderson

BJ's eyes widen everytime the guy with the Members Only jacket is shown. His intuition tells him something is off about him. Same way I felt.

Edin Islamovic

Paulie didn't sell Tony out.

SixEight Guy

Lol that’s how everyone was feeling. Worst ending ever. Everyone was in disbelief that it ended like that too.

Bryan M.

Excellent video! I’d also like to add 2 things: 1. Sopranos has so many references to the Godfather. When Michael kills the rival mafioso and the cop in the diner, he goes to the bathroom to get the gun, comes out, and shoots them. 2. Members Only jacket guy was at Tony’s “3 o’clock” when exiting the bathroom and presumably shooting Tony in the head. Remember the 3 o’clock that Mikey Palmice told to Chris when Chris was briefly in hell after he got shot in season 2 or 3. Makes perfect sense here.

Bill B.

Carmela having him killed has got to be the single dumbest take ever. You can't be serious😆

WinstonSmooth

So either someone at the dinner or Carmela had him whacked, They were supposed to eat at home and she changed it because she had to meet some contractors, No one knew he was going to be there and its a dinner so I doubt she called in a reservation. I know what David Chase has said but that was also after a lot of people didnt care for the ending. and agent Harris was on Tonys side, he hung up his phone quick after he told Tony like he was hiding it, if he wasnt helping Tony he would get a conspiracy charge if he used that as evidence, He knew why Tony was looking for him, he even told Tony there was a hit out on them

Don

You should check out Talking Sopranos on YouTube if you have not seen it,

Don

Oh man that ending catches everyone off guard. Like a lot of other people i feel like the Bobby conversation and the godfather homage, and the cut to black implies pretty heavily that tony just got popped in the side of the head.

David

Tony (and only Tony) got rubbed out. Plain and simple.

Pink Martini AZ

Omg I forgot about Eastbound and Down. That show is funny!

Pink Martini AZ

I hope their next series is “ Madmen” , or “ Peaky Blinders”, I love great series set in a different time period. “ The Wire” is a great more modern show… but Tommy Shelby in Peaky blinders was everything… we don’t realize how easy we have it today. Go back 100 years and the world was tough

Anna Thorp

It’s been fun watching this series again with you guys! Y’all felt the same as me when I saw the last episode when it came out. I was thinking I missed something. I remember a lot of fans weren’t happy with the ending.

Mneely

Tony got whacked! That’s why it all suddenly ended.

Darren Armstrong

Clues through out the season. Paulie sold Tony out to New York. New York had him whacked. Remember Paulie having the vision of Pussy.

Jerry

You should watch the prequel movie now. It’s on HBO. The Many Saints of Newark.

Jerry

For anybody that's interested and you guys may already know about this but I just discovered that "talking sopranos podcast" with the actors who played Bobby and Christopher is actually on Max and they go through every single episode.

Michelle C

I think Tony killed at the end; I also think the The Many Saints of Newark is a stain on the series :)

rogers1892

Asia and BJ I just stumbled across this it is a 20th anniversary reunion of all the actors for The sopranos and I think you'll like it and anyone else that's interested. Of course sadly James gandolfini is not there 😞 https://youtu.be/cSUFaSVPCRQ

Michelle C

Tony died. The hitman in the jacket shot him in the head after leaving the bathroom (symbolism from another Mafia classic.)

Matthew Beilewech

I think this is the best explanation: https://youtu.be/4Vc4DWdOuBw Tony is dead.

Bowie

The ever so small nod to Don Corleone with the orange early in this episode too. Amazing foreshadowing from Chase in the 1st person view in EP1 and in the finale.

Darth Brooks

I think they left open the possibility of future Sopranos seasons or movies but after the death of James Gandolfini that possibility was shot. It was years after the series before the creators "admitted" that Tony was killed. They certainly didn't "admit" that when the finale aired. Everyone pretty much hated it. Compared to the rest of the series it sucked. Y'all should do the series Justified. You would LOVE it.

Arlan McKee

I think it is a little bit easier to understand what might have happened if yall had watched The Godfather first. There is several clues leading up to this. An episode is named Members Only, a reference to Tony’s favorite Godfather scene, and Bobby’s reference to not seeing it happen when it goes down. Or, Tony eats his onion rings and goes home. LOL. I personally love this series and the ending. Also, I always think of this ending when I hear this song.

Randy Ripley

BJ's the only one who's agreed with me on the ending, since it originally happened. This was just another day in the life of Tony Soprano. Carlo flipped. So now Tony has to deal with that. Just like everything else that he's had to deal with. Like when he was shot a couple of times, and all of the other bullshit. Those dudes walking into the diner were just decoys. The Journey lyrics at the end sum it up, "Workin' hard to get my fill. Everybody wants a thrill Payin' anything to roll the dice just one more time Some will win, some will lose Some were born to sing the blues Oh, the movie never end It goes on and on, and on, and on." Life just goes on for Tony Soprano. My opinion.

Jay Reeves

Someone once described the end of this series to me as being like the end of the Beatles Sergeant Pepper's album. The music swells wildly into a final glorious chord that's struck, then echoes out into eternity, fading to nothing. That ending is somewhat like the end of The Soprano's. The tension builds, reaching a fever pitch, then Tony looks to the door of the restaurant as we hear it open, and BAM. A black screen leaves us in awe for what feels like an eternity as we ask ourselves "what happened?". I know all too well that it's a jarring and seemingly inauspicious ending to what is otherwise an immaculate series. But let it sit with you a while, and try to find the beauty in what might have been. It's become much more palatable to me as the years have gone on. To the point where I'm now able to appreciate the ending we see. How was it supposed to end? What should have happened? How do you perfectly send off the perfect show? There's a genius in finishing it with that echoing black screen. The intimation is that Tony died, and I see a lot of folks have pointed that out. Even so, by not showing the audience, we're left to wonder.

Jake Martin

Tony got shot and died the creator said he didn’t want people to see tony die infront of his wife and kids and I didn’t want to see that ether

Max

Tony died the director said it remember when bobby said you don’t hear it when it happens

Max

The way I fast forwarded to the very end to see your faces. LOL I remember thinking my cable went out or something. And then I proceeded to haaaaate this ending. 😂😂😂

Melissa

So many clues that show Tony died at the end. The way the whole scene was shot (POV from Tony - also the pilot episode starts with a POV of Tony at Melfi's office looking at the statue and series ends with Tony's POV...the only two episodes directed by David Chase), the only time camera moves is when Members Only guy goes to bathroom. So many other clues: - Bobby "you don't even hear it when it happens" (repeated in next to last episode) - Opening shot of the last episode w Tony looking like he's dead etc. BUT...even if Tony didn't die in this scene, he is finished. His whole crew is gone, Melfi severed her relationship with him. He was being indicted and one of his capos was going to testify. Sad ending, but it's all there. A show for the ages

Edin Islamovic

Oh yes they did us like that! Most epic series and epic ending. As others have said that ending is Tony’s lights out. They left it ambiguous but really never meant to according to the creator it was meant to be clear but let’s be real- clear it was not.

Nebidia Swift

As much as I want them to do SoA, Dexter is next along side Stranger Things.

Darth Brooks

Ah I loved this show overall. Sons of Anarchy next? 👀

AverageUsername

Mad men next plz!! Closest thing to sopranos

Robert

In short, I think they had the ending like that so people couldn't spoiler the ending because there is no ending. But the ending I think is that tony dies according to the writer. Who did it is the question and why?

Robert

As so many people have explained in the comments, the screen changing to black in the end is Tony's lights getting shut off for good

Davey

So cool thing about the ending is the one guy who enters with AJ is wearing a members only jacket and as we saw in the first episode of the season, where a similar thing happens where gene walks into the restaurant/fast food place and kills a guy while wearing his members only jacket. That members only jacket guy also goes into the bathroom. Tonys favorite scene is from the godfather and it’s the revenge scene at the restaurant. If meadow had gotten in there sooner and been sitting next to Tony, at that point in time they wouldn’t have had a clear shot, they would’ve probably had to shoot meadow as well so it would not have happened. They also most likely wouldn’t have killed him if the whole family was sitting there in general. A big indicator to Tony dying is how in the prior episode at the very end he has that flashback with Bobby where Bobby says “you probably don’t even hear it when it happens huh?”. Just like the ending, you didn’t even hear it cause it just went black. At that point in time as well comparing to season one, Tony is the opposite to who he was. Tony tells AJ to stop being sarcastic after quoting something he wants said being “focus on the good times” cause Tony at this point wasn’t enjoying anything even his family and his focus was the Mob and gaining more power and winning. There is more but I don’t want to make a book out of this.😂😂

Cole hauser

So that was my First time seeing the ending as well...my reaction was the exact same...I sat there dumbfounded...just wow lol Thanks for anther great series you guys <3 Was awesome

JessicaB

I forgot how controversial this ending was at the time. People really weren't feeling it. I find it to just be mediocre - not good or bad. They were content to leave it open to interpretation, but kind of a cop-out in the absence of a really great storyline. Actually pretty common for really big shows to have a tough time wrapping up the series in a super satisfying way. Either the series falls apart before they get there, or contract negotiations with the cast messes things up, or it's hastily wrapped up with a mid storyline. That's what really makes me appreciate Breaking Bad. They had that all planned out. They wrote a great story ending, and didn't try to milk an extra 3 seasons or whatever for money, though they could've. I don't remember any shows sticking the landing in such a big way before that show. Really set a new bar going forward. Anyways, Eastbound and Down - add it to the list. BJ will absolutely love it. Asia...maybe slightly less so :)

CS

I'm in turmoil! I started this series late with you guys, and I am only up to mid-season 4 with the reactions. It's really tough not to watch this one right now as I'm just imagining your faces at that final scene! I've seen the Sopranos several times, can generally mouth along with most of the dialogue, and mostly agree with those that think this is the best series ever, I mean if I had to make a choice that is. I do have several other favorites that, imo, are right up there with them, like GOT. I don't know what I'm gonna do! (Actually, I think I do, I just don't want to admit it!) You guys really are killin it, the most genuine reactions, great variety in your catalogue, crankin out the content, really nice job!

TheGuy

It was disappointing the 1st time I saw it but, I love the theory that the audience gets wacked not Tony 🤔

shawn boyce

According to david chase everything is in plain site. Tony was shot and killed no ifs ands or butts about it. after the bell rings we see black and that is tony.

Rio Mendoza

We'll obviously never know for sure if Tony died or not — although David Chase, the show creator, once referred to it as Tony's "death scene" in an interview. That said, I think the arrangement of shots in the final scene shows pretty definitively that he did. First off, we have Bobby saying "you probably don't even hear it when it happens." That's key. The final scene is set up so we see the same few shots repeating. We see Tony. We hear the bell. We see the door from Tony's perspective. This sequence repeats a number of times. And then at the end, we see Tony, we hear the bell, and...nothing. Because Tony has been shot (probably by the Members Only jacket-wearing guy coming out of the bathroom), and he didn't even hear it when it happened, and now we are still seeing from his perspective. Ultimately, it doesn't really matter if he died or not — the remainder of his life will be spent just like that final scene. Constant tension. Always looking over his shoulder. Always waiting for the other shoe to drop. The entire audience was endlessly tensed up during this scene and that's how Tony would spend the rest of his life. The hustle never ends. Greatest show of all time.

p0sthum4n

Did you guys notice that the guy who whacks Phil is an actor from Band of Brothers? He’s the first one to shoot at the Germans under the bridge on episode 2(Frank John Hughes)

Andre Anderson

Lol. No. Come on.

Julie A

I’m just gonna reply to the part about AJ and Carmela dying. David Chase would have never killed AJ off. People can handle the thought of Tony being killed, but not one of his kids. And Phil was already dead so who would have cared to get revenge on his behalf? His crew already said they were OK with Tony killing him.

Julie A

Steve Schirripa ran that rumor by David Chase on the Talking Sopranos podcast and he just laughed and said he had never heard that rumor before. So that’s a nope.

Julie A

Notice the scene where the 3 of them eat onion rings like they're taking communion. I saw a video on YouTube that broke everything down, and mentioned that. I rolled my eyes when I first heard that interpretation... but damn it.. look at that scene. It looks like they're putting communion wafers in their mouth. I'm not crazy, I'm not crazy. Look.

Tom Occhipinti

In episode 20, there is a scene that shows carm and roe on vacation in Paris. They are in a poke your head into a painted body thing. You know to put your face over the body of whatever. Cowboy. Astronaut. Carm is dressed as a French noble woman. Like Marie Antoinette, noblewoman executed in the French Revolution.

KyleV

I think Carmela and AJ died too.... and Meadow was spared, because she wasn't sitting with them. Everything is done with great economy in writing, direction, etc. When it's done right. Why then have Meadow delayed outside --and taking the time to show it -- if not for it to have consequence in the story. Granted, this is ALL speculation. But there are signs in the story... put there by the writers and by the director... to point us into a logical, coherent direction Nothing here was random.

Tom Occhipinti

Name Of the episode was Members Only. The guy in the restaurant had on a Members Only jacket.

Mikey Sea

Not saying I buy it but, there's a theory on yt that Rhiannon, A.J.'s new girlfriend, was a plant to allow Phil's crew to keep tabs on Tony's whereabouts. The main points are that Carmella makes a point about not liking that she's at the safe house and Tony says, "who's she gonna tell?" When Carmella is on the phone and announces we're going to Holsten's for dinner, we see Rhiannon look back at Carmella while AJ is oblivious watching TV. And in the theory, while at Butch's hair salon meeting, there is a poster of a girl on the wall that is supposedly Rhiannon; her being a model, and somehow she has a link or knows someone in Phil's crew. It's a bit out there but if you watch the yt video, I think it's an interesting idea on how the hit man knew where Tony would be.

Mikey Sea

Bobby: "I mean, our line of work, it's always out there. You probably don't even hear it when it happens, right?" Back in '07 when it happened live, people called their cable company irate. Was hard.

Jay McLaughlin

Tony.... was.... killed. Notice that the POV kept shifting from looking AT Tony, to Tony looking at the door. Meadow comes in, and it goes to black. That was his POV ending abruptly.... because he's dead. Shot. Referring to dying earlier in the season, Bobby said, "You probably don't even hear it when it happens." There was NO happily ever after. Someone tell them about the Godfather references with Tony eating the orange at the beginning of the episode, and the guy walking into the bathroom. I gotta go. Oh, and look again at the very opening shot of the episode. It's Tony with his head on the pillow, looking like he's got his head on a pillow in a coffin. I mean, doesn't Tony always sleep on his side? Maybe, maybe not. But that shot looked like a coffin shot. Symbolism.

Tom Occhipinti

Tony dies as soon as the song stops and the screen goes black. Your seeing people enter through his eyes. So when it goes black it means he’s dead. Remember he and Bobby discussing death on the boat. He even flashed back to that the last episode. You never hear it coming.

Dan63

Spoilers below. Major spoilers! I have a somewhat controversial take about the end of the series. I believe Tony was whacked right then and there. 100%, no doubt. You don’t see the hit. That’s the point. Like Bobby said, “you probably don’t even hear it when it happens.” Paulie and Parisi were behind it. Parisi never got over his brothers murder at Tony’s hands, and since his son is dating Meadow, he knew exactly where the soprano family was eating dinner. Paulie is a rat-bastard traitor. Why? He witnesses a cat staring at Chris’s picture. It’s said that the cat is probably aware of a rat in the wall and it’s not looking at Chris. Then, in his final scene, a cat comes up, lays down, and stares at Paulie. Like it had stared at the rat in the wall. Here’s something. I think Carm and AJ are killed too. The rule is families are not touched. But the first rule is these gangsters have no respect for the rules. Don’t forget, Phil’s goomar and her father were killed. A goomar is basically family. All bets are off. All throughout the final diner scene there are framed shots where there is a single light above the family members head. It happens several times, conspicuously, and represents their passage to the spirit world at death. Furthermore, one of the two hitmen orders a cup of coffee, the waitress provides three creamers for the 8oz. cup. That’s totally nonstandard. Creamer is poured into coffee, and they represent the three victims being surrounded by a darkness darker than coffee; death.

KyleV

Just so you know the creator David Chase said it's all there in plain sight. They were showing Tony's perspective after the bell rings and the last shot is after the bell and it's black.

Rio Mendoza

And with Junior…Tony once told his family to remember the times that were good, something AJ reminds him of in the last scene. When Tony goes to see him, Junior doesn’t remember his brother, doesn’t really remember Tony, doesn’t remember that he once ran North Jersey, but remembers that he and Tony used to play catch.

John Collins

Still can’t say for sure if Tony is whacked at the end because we didn’t see it on the screen, but there’s plenty of evidence that he was. The conversation with Bobby about not hearing it when it happens. The way the whole scene is shot, obviously meant to ramp up tension (I remember breathing heavy when I saw it live too) complete with the reference to The Godfather (a move they love and have talked about plenty of times) with the guy going into the bathroom like Al Pacino did to grab a gun. That every time the door rings, the next shot is Tony’s face looking up followed by a shot of what he sees (Carmela coming in, AJ coming in, darkness). That Christopher warned Tony and Paulie “3 o’clock” when he came out of his coma, and the bathroom is at Tony’s 3 o’clock. That when Tony went into his coma it faded to darkness, vs when he came out of it to a flash of white light. That, aside from going to jail, it’s the likeliest outcome to a guy like Tony.

John Collins

Paraphrasing my favorite explanation: Tony dies. Maybe he dies in the diner. Maybe he dies in a car accident on the way home, maybe in the can in a few years like Johnny Sack, maybe when he’s 90 after surviving longer than anyone thought, but it’s gonna happen since it happens to everyone. As long as you’re still alive, you have the ability to change for the better, make improvements, help the people in your life; that stops when the end comes. We haven’t seen anything to believe that Tony, whenever the end does come for him, will ever change. In the first episode, he’s depressed, a murderer, serially unfaithful, toxic to all those around him; he’s all of those things in the last episode too, except he’s managed to get even worse. Shoot, he’s complaining about his mother to a therapist in the finale, just like he did when we saw him the very first time. Since he’ll obviously never change, in a way he’s dead already. TLDR: don’t be a Tony. You’re still alive, what’re ya gonna do about that?

John Collins

Some people here might not know about the ending maybe edit your comment a little so nothing is spoiled.

Rio Mendoza

I just skipped to the end to see your reaction. Haha Anyway, every single person who watched the ending thought their TV or cable went out. When we realized it didn’t, there was a sense of bewilderment, just like what the 2 of you experienced. The creator of the show decided a few years earlier that he was going to end it that way. He was a fan of French films and in a lot of French films they didn’t tie everything up in a bow. So, the 2 scenarios are Tony was killed or Tony wasn’t killed. After 16 years people are still debating it! Even the actors on the show have different opinions. I think he was killed, but even if he wasn’t, he was still going to end up in prison or murdered at some point. The creator of the show has never given a definitive answer and he never will. Some people think he did, but he was misquoted. Most people don’t think Carmela or the kids were harmed because the family members are supposed to be left out of it. I’m glad you enjoyed the series. It’s some of the best acting I’ve ever seen. I fell in love with James Gandolfini (as an actor) because he was mesmerizing to me. I listened to the way he said everything and watched every facial expression. He got really burned out playing Tony because he was a hippie at heart and the anger he had to carry and the (screen) violence he had to inflict became too much for him. I cried like a baby when he died, and I don’t usually do that. He was only 51. Thanks guys for reacting to my favorite series. I enjoyed it thoroughly!! Sorry this turned into a novel!

Julie A

Well, this episode should spark some robust discussions. 🙂

Mikey Sea

Yessss I haven't watched the ones you posted last night yet so 3 hours of the sopranos it is since my client postponed for today 😂

Michelle C

OMG its working here we go. The anticipation is killing me even more now haha. Are you sure the delay wasn't planned so we would all lose our minds hitting refresh hahaha. Loved the reaction you had. Its exactly the one we all had when it first aired. Love it love it

Rio Mendoza


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