Dragon Ball Z Ep 260
Added 2024-08-13 20:05:01 +0000 UTCSSJ3 GOTENKS HAS ARRIVED!!
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“I knew I could have my candy…” he did not care about being trapped in there eternally all he needs was more treats 😭💀😂
Davaughn
2024-08-28 23:42:37 +0000 UTCPiccolo looking at Gotenks at the end like he needs to calm down... Like dude, let that kid get furious lol. He's been joking around not even trying up until now.
Nicholas Moore
2024-08-19 21:39:50 +0000 UTC“Wait the lightning is this super Saiyan 2” 🤣🤣🤣
Darren Metts
2024-08-18 16:46:28 +0000 UTCNow she really sees just. How ridiculous buy is tearing a damn hole in the fabric of reality without a special ability to do so just pure strength is insane
Darren Metts
2024-08-18 16:36:38 +0000 UTCBut like if the vibrations in their voice ripped a hole. The hole would go to nothing right?
Nicholas Moore
2024-08-17 22:51:35 +0000 UTCNo cause its a different dimension
Unkeeded
2024-08-17 22:45:21 +0000 UTCOh I agree, without spoiling much all I’ll say is Gohans a beast
Whiskeysour
2024-08-17 20:05:34 +0000 UTCI don't care for either, all I know is no one is touching my GOAT Gohan 1 v 1 without any bs, you'll see why I say bs here soon.
Super Saiyan God
2024-08-17 19:25:37 +0000 UTCNice that’s actually not a bad way to look at it, sorta compresses them and keeps it a little more simple. The Namek saga showing that there doesn’t need to be much of a difference in power really makes those high multiplers just look comical and ridiculously unnecessary. People spam the multipliers like they’re all canon but most of those old guide books weren’t even written or approved by Toriyama yet they get taken as DBZ gospel for some reason. And the ones that he did sign off on I don’t think he even read or remembered but I guess I could be wrong. Regardless you still see so many power level videos and such on the internet claiming what they say is canon. And they act like the ridiculous levels they come up with past the Frieza saga are 100% fact, when they are just actually all head canon too haha. Besides Kaioken, fusion and maybe SSJ1, I don’t even like to use any of the other multiplers and look at the other forms as some what of a flat increase instead. Keeps power levels a little closer together and gives other non saiyans more of a chance to compete. Sorta like a tier system instead, but that’s just me.
Whiskeysour
2024-08-17 17:51:13 +0000 UTCAgreed. Toriyama wrote himself into a corner with kaioken. He later did an interview and he said: when drawing/writing the story, he imagined supersaiyan being a 10x multiplier instead of 50. My personal headcanon is: Ssj1: 10x Ssj2: 3x Ssj3: 4x The cell fight makes it impossible for the official “2x ssj2” to work. Cell powers up like 4 times. And gohan still 2 shots.
Tony
2024-08-17 07:56:43 +0000 UTCMight be a dumb question but if the Earth was destroyed while someone's in the chamber, would they go out into space?
Nicholas Moore
2024-08-17 02:44:20 +0000 UTCOh I agree, doesn’t take much of a gap at all. What happened on Namek proved that for sure. Even though I like the idea of Goku at least standing a chance better, hard to deny it if we take that into account. Personally I’m not huge on the SSJ multipliers because they make the power levels so messy and ridiculous. Even Toriyama forgetting about them at times and most of them coming from old guide books that were all over the place. So I don’t like to use them but that’s just a me thing.
Whiskeysour
2024-08-17 01:20:11 +0000 UTCLook what vegeta did against cui, he one shotted him no effort. And that was a 33% gap. Gotenks ssj1 post RoSaT surpassed goku ssj3. Now give that an 8x boost for ssj3. Gotenks is 10x goku (minimum. Some people argue 400x and there is evidence for that. But i dont subscribe to that personally). Gotenks head buts goku 1 time and goku gets atomized
Tony
2024-08-17 00:24:01 +0000 UTCWell?
Tony
2024-08-17 00:20:58 +0000 UTCYea I used to like to think that SSJ3 Goku could at least put up a good fight against SSJ3 Gotenks, if he wasn’t completely serious. It goes without saying that Gokus more skilled and definitely a better fighter. Obviously because he’s older and trained with gods and such. But if there’s too much of a gap, power trumps all in DBZ. So it is what it is.
Whiskeysour
2024-08-16 23:42:34 +0000 UTCI also like goku way more than gotenks. But facts are indeed facts. Goku is the second strongest unfused good main character of the story. And thats an amazing feat. Fusion is just that powerfull.
Tony
2024-08-16 22:32:28 +0000 UTCNo need for name calling bro, it’s opinions. Goku doesn’t always have to be the strongest, besides it’s a fusion so it’s not like Goku still isn’t one of the strongest unfused. Goku was also scared of fighting normal Super Buu later on without fusing after seeing this fight. Why would I have any reason to cap, I like Goku more than Gotenks. Even had a troll come at me the last few videos for criticizing Gotenks. Regardless I also like some of your other takes. And even if I didn’t we’re not enemies here.
Whiskeysour
2024-08-16 21:59:04 +0000 UTC@ saiyanpride Im smoking? Show me when gotenks ssj1 fought fat buu.
Tony
2024-08-16 21:15:01 +0000 UTCEven in ssj1? 😂😂 you’re smoking some good stuff. Ssj1 Gotenks got his ass beat by fat buu while ssj3 goku could’ve beaten fat buu if he went full power
TrapStarz
2024-08-16 21:06:56 +0000 UTCGotenks destroys goku in ssj3. Even in ssj1
Tony
2024-08-16 21:05:09 +0000 UTC@darren mets Brother. Gotenks ssj3 absolutely destroys goku while he has 1 arm and 1 leg tied behind his back. Goku doesnt stand a chance in the slightest
Tony
2024-08-16 21:04:26 +0000 UTC@whiskeysour that was before he saw gotenks or felt his power don’t be a clown bro
Darren Metts
2024-08-16 20:33:51 +0000 UTCThat is cap I’m sick and tired of seeing this whole gotenks is stronger than ssj3 goku nonsense take
Darren Metts
2024-08-16 20:33:01 +0000 UTCNo cap from Here on out the reactions need to be posted asap we in the peak rn
Darren Metts
2024-08-16 20:32:32 +0000 UTCEvery single episode for the next two weeks is about fucking gas 🔥
Darren Metts
2024-08-16 19:19:27 +0000 UTCGood to hear I don’t mind a good spirited debate at all. I’ll mark it as spoiler and post way down. And you’re right about Gokus time on earth being a factor so that’s a fair point. Also for sure, Fat Buu losing his evil took over half his power. I think he gets the name Mr. Buu after that just to tell the difference. But SSJ Gotenks and Fat Buus fight was supposed to happen before all of that and before Gotenks trained in the chamber. So Goku was betting on a weaker Gotenks taking on Buu. I agree though I’d like to think that he was thinking of Gotenks fighting at a higher level, maybe SSj2. I also like the idea of Goku not being all that far behind Gotenks. As you said there is some reasons to think otherwise. Though he is a fusion after all and that multiplier can be crazy. Even though it’s never truly stated what it is as far as I know. He could actually be much stronger for the Goku for all I know. Anyways we can talk more about it when the time comes though. But spoiler…. When Vegeta and Goku are inside Buu, after they rip the pods out and he turns back into normal super Buu. Goku still tells Vegeta they need to fuse with the dance because even a normal Super Buu would murder them both. The same Buu that SSJ3 Gotenks starts to get the best of. There is unfortunately some inconsistency in the Buu saga, even though it’s my favorite I can admit that. Like the dub starting the whole Kid Buu is the strongest thing when he’s not but that’s a whole other can of worms.
Whiskeysour
2024-08-16 00:11:08 +0000 UTCI'm fine with debating, If it makes sense I'll agree but if it doesn't I have to say my opinion. I'm not certain Goku thought that Gotenks could beat fat buu at SSj1, Fat buu only got stronger because he had the evil inside him that made him stronger. Once he lost it he lost alot of his power (He's still strong though) and your other point of Goku losing a lot of energy fighting fat buu, that is true but remember he had a certain amount of energy that he could use while he was on earth at the time. I'll tell you my other example when we get further into the episodes if I remember this lol. I'm not sure which part you're talking about in your last point about "them telling a certain someone that they'll get stomped by buu" so I can't really counter argue that, but It's really debatable though, I don't think there really is a right or wrong answer with this opinion and I guess we'll never really know for sure.
Bob
2024-08-15 23:54:32 +0000 UTCVery true Gokus usually very trust worthy on that but he also implied a ssj1 Gotenks from earlier could defeat Fat Buu. A Fat Buu that he himself only seemed to have a bit of an edge over in their fight earlier. Both of them weren’t taking the fight super serious, but while Buu said he wanted to keep playing, Goku did say to himself that he couldn’t keep fighting Buu much longer because of SSJ3s drain. Regardless this SSJ3 Gotenks should be able to beat Goku if he was serious. If Goku really did actually think that just a SSj1 Gotenks could handle Buu. I’m more in the camp that thinks Goku just severely underestimated Buu though. But I also don’t remember what Goku actually says to the Kai in the original dub or manga to be honest though. Not sure what this better example of yours is, but I could give you another one as well, if you wanna take Gokus word like you said before. It’s when Goku tries to convince a certain someone while they are inside a certain “place” to do something with him again after they already did it before. Goku goes on to tell this someone that the two of them would still get stomped by Buu if they didn’t do it, even after he gets weaker. The same Buu that this SSJ3 Gotenks is fighting. Staying as vague as possible as to not spoil. We can agree to disagree if you still think otherwise though.
Whiskeysour
2024-08-15 08:41:16 +0000 UTCNah, supreme kai asked goku "Does that mean Gotenks is stronger than you?" and Goku's response? "Well I can do it too." neither confirming or denying it. So you can't say that Gotenks is stronger than Goku, and Goku is the first person to tell you if he's stronger or weaker than someone. I would give you an even better example but that would jump way higher into the episodes and I don't want to spoil.
Bob
2024-08-15 06:49:56 +0000 UTCPeople be glazing Goku too much sometimes. Yes he’s a much better fighter than Gotenks but imo Gotenks SSJ3 vs current Goku SSJ3. Gotenks wins, skill only helps out if there is a small power difference in DBZ. SSJ3 Gotenks would be too much for Goku if he really tried and wasn’t just goofing around.
Whiskeysour
2024-08-14 20:58:40 +0000 UTC“Terminated Fat Buu easily”. I highly doubt that, Goku severely underestimated Buu. I’m sure he could have maybe killed Buu if he would have gone all out and completely destroyed him early on. But if you notice, every time Fat Buu got mad his power level skyrocketed. He was still technically a form of Super Buu, just with his good side in control. Had Goku continued to drag the fight out and pissed off Fat Buu too much he would have most likely lost imo. Not to mention the SSJ3 forms horrible drain that luckily didn’t effect Goku as much because he was in a dead body during their fight.
Whiskeysour
2024-08-14 20:54:23 +0000 UTCI think it should be noted that Goku SS3 could've terminated Fat buu easily. He chose not to because it's not "his fight" and earth needed to save itself 😒 The idea of fusion sounded good because that would give the earth a fighter who was almost at ss3 level. (But as we saw...Buu still pounded Gotenks easily) SS3 gotenks, Super Buu and Goku SS3 are all basically the same level of power. I'd say Super buu might just be a tad bit weaker than both of them though. Also we don't know the extent of Goku's full power because when he went Super Saiyan 3, he was basically toying with Buu and trying to bide his time, instead of Fully powering up to his Max and fighting with rage. Hence why he gave an indirect answer to Supreme Kai, because the to him the boys aren't exactly stronger than him...But they're very close, maybe equally matched.
Nate_TG
2024-08-14 18:46:55 +0000 UTCThey can only turn super Saiyan 3 because they are fused goku is the only oone that can do it himself vegeta and gohan never reached it
Thomas kennedy
2024-08-14 17:18:25 +0000 UTCGoku definitely implied that he was still stronger. lol. but hear me out *spoiler* goku also says later that he could have probably killed fat buu himself as ss3, but that would mean goku assumed that ss1 gotenks could kill fat buu, as he never expected them to go ss3. so they *should* be a lot stronger than goku in ss3.
Cuz Johnson
2024-08-14 15:37:15 +0000 UTCSSJ3 Goku would probably win even though SSJ3 Gotenks is considerably stronger than SSJ3 Goku. We're talking about raw strength. Goku is obviously the more complete fighter, who would win between the two? I'd still pick Goku because it takes more than just raw/brute strength to win a fight.
Super Saiyan God
2024-08-14 15:17:56 +0000 UTCI like how when supreme Kai asked Goku if Gotenks was stronger than him he said “well I could do it to” ss3 Goku would still win that fight against ss3 Gotenks
TrapStarz
2024-08-14 03:22:06 +0000 UTCIt's true that it's quite amazing that Gotenks was able to reach Super Saiyan 3 quite easily, but we must not forget that this is a fusion
Mello_Lawliet
2024-08-14 03:02:21 +0000 UTCShowing the power to tear through dimensions is definitely next level. And I don’t think Gotenks skipped SSJ2, he probably can but he just cruised through it and went to 3. I think the boys training in there as a fusion instead of separately was the reason they could reach the next level so much easier. Fusions seem to have a much higher potential than their counter parts. On top of seeing Goku do it before of course. Great reaction guys.
Whiskeysour
2024-08-14 01:42:57 +0000 UTCThis is why I hate the idea of multiplers in Dragonball. They muddy things up and make power levels make no sense. Even Toriyama forgot what multipliers he used for SSJ so I just personally ignore them. Some fans tend to pull numbers out of nowhere and make up so much shit about them anyway. Like some of those cringe YouTube channels.
Whiskeysour
2024-08-14 00:30:45 +0000 UTCLET’S FUCKING GOOOOOOO!!!
Aisiah McDonald
2024-08-14 00:29:44 +0000 UTCBefore Buu broke out maybe he could have but I think the Buu eating them thing happened pretty fast so they wouldn’t of had a chance too anyway. Time in DBZ is weird. Sometimes I think things that seem to drag on forever are just slowed down for the audience. Like the famous Frieza “5 minutes”.
Whiskeysour
2024-08-14 00:28:54 +0000 UTCSPOILERS FOR THOSE READING: The fighter x fighter multiplier is a myth bro, Super Buu is near equal with SS3 Gotenks and Gohan picks him apart later on. If Goku's official multiplier is 400X base for SS3 then it sounds insanely absurd to say Gotenks is millions of times his base in SS3.
Naruto Uzumaki
2024-08-13 22:56:54 +0000 UTCI hope you're talking about when Gohan first fought Fat Buu, because WTF
Mikasa_Axmn
2024-08-13 22:40:18 +0000 UTCI'm not sure if it's an anime only thing but it's kinda stupid how literally 2 episodes ago piccolo was able to communicate to Goten and trunks outside of the time chamber when he was walking with Buu to them but all of sudden piccolo doesn't think to communicate to the others outside to wish them out?? LOL
Naruto Uzumaki
2024-08-13 22:36:26 +0000 UTCYup that's is true
THE LEGENDARY BATMAN!!
2024-08-13 21:41:15 +0000 UTCThe only villain that oh wait lemme stop right there but yea buu is the got any one putting that clown cell over buu is ugh Idek shyt don’t make sense
Darren Metts
2024-08-13 21:40:39 +0000 UTCwtf? 🤣🤣 you gotta be fkn joking
Darren Metts
2024-08-13 21:39:31 +0000 UTCFinally we just about done with all the mid episodes the last ones are called THE INNARDS
Darren Metts
2024-08-13 21:38:57 +0000 UTCDendee noooo
Yung thug
2024-08-13 21:14:45 +0000 UTCSince fusion multiples their power levels by a lot and they seen goku do it, they manage to reach ssj3. Tbh I think base Gotenks is stronger than when gohan fought buu
Dante
2024-08-13 21:11:29 +0000 UTCIt’s nice how buu says “how are WE going to eat” knowing he bein somewhat considerate as super buu
Zayn;
2024-08-13 20:33:27 +0000 UTCThe only villain that managed to kill the entire cast.
CyberWolf300
2024-08-13 20:28:28 +0000 UTCgonna get more more intsense. ooo feel so hopeless without the trio but im hyped for ssj3 Gotenks
Oshay Goodman
2024-08-13 20:07:30 +0000 UTCI was literallly just thinking if you guys were gonna drop this today lol let’s go
Diego Hill
2024-08-13 20:06:18 +0000 UTC
