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Hi guys been loving your dark videos, so much so it’s the reason I subscribed to the patron. It’s the one show I wish I could wipe my memory and watch again. There’s an interesting theory on the internet which I quite like is that Marek and Sonja (Tannahaus’s son and daughter in law) are basically the original or spiritual counterpart of Jonas and Martha we followed in the show. Sonja is an anagram for Jonas and MARek TannHAus gives you Martha. It also adds more weight to why Marek and Sonja were tripped out when seeing our duo. Later they even say something like I saw “angels” and things. It also explains to me why Jonas and Martha always see each other in the closet as children even though this was happening supposedly for this first time. Their love or connection transcended cause/effect or time and space and it feels like them seeing each other as children always happened. More to this point when Martha says “Do you think anything of us will remain?” Before they disappear well I think they poetically exist on in Marek and Sonja. The canon in my head is Clockmaker Tannhaus made the first Time Machine in existence to try and save his family. In doing so 2 eternally repeating worlds were created Adam/Jonas being the spiritual clone/counterpart of Marek and Eva/Martha being the same for Sonja. And they turned out being the 2 to fix the problem and grant Tannhaus’s wish. However Clockmaker Tannhaus will technically never know he made a Time Machine once upon a time cos from his pov his family left and then they came back. This version has no idea that they ever died or that he accidentally ended the world cos he has no need to build a Time Machine. Such a mesmerising series. You should definitely check out “1899” on Netflix it comes from the same creators and has middle aged Jonas in it. A good mind boggle show even though it got cancelled it’s still worth watching in my opinion. Dark is my favourite show and I loved the ending. However, the best ending to any tv show ever imo is Mr Robot which I highly recommend. It’s very trippy like Dark but obviously nowhere near as complicated lol.

Tom

There’s a book?!?!

Betty Alice

It’s sad that our journey is over!! So happy you guys liked it!! You guys were crazy to watch. I was shocked what you guys got and the little things you picked up on. I watched it twice, in English, and still missed thing s you guys got lol. Pudgey, you seriously have to give Attack on Titan another try. Kay so Netflix sucks and cancelled 1899, but you guys should watch it on your own time. It’s only 1 season but is still worth watching. They ended it in a way that it could be 1 season. It has middle age Jonas in it and I think it’s the same creators??? Also, 3 Body Problem. :)

Betty Alice

Sooo glad you guys watched this show i think its up there with some of the best television shows of all time.

Natch

Thank you both for being brave enough to react to Dark. There aren’t a lot of reaction channels that have ever tried to watch the show. Besides the fact that it’s a foreign series for most reactors, and the native German voices are so much better than the English dub, it’s also a very complex series and has a pretty slow burn. I loved watching you guys come up with theories and try to figure out what was going on. The show really does keep you in the “Dark” (harhar) all the way up until very close to the end. You get reveals here and there, at a slow, drip by drip pace, but most reveals are pretty substantial and some are mind blowing. Anyway, thanks again for taking the time to watch the show and I’m so happy you guys enjoyed it. The first time I watched it, it became one of my favorite shows of all time. Well written, fairly slow paced but not boring at all and just overall an amazing experience.

Sean O'Neill

thanks!! we absolutely had some much fun on this incredible journey. glad we could share it ❤️

CpaSpartan Pudgey

🤯

CpaSpartan Pudgey

we love to hear it! Dark was incredible. We are excited for westworld as well!

CpaSpartan Pudgey

yep agree!

CpaSpartan Pudgey

we're really glad you enjoyed them blizzity! such an incredible series to cover

CpaSpartan Pudgey

Upgraded my membership just so I could watch this early/before I travel overseas for a few weeks :D Soo glad you guys reacted to this series & so happy that you genuinely enjoyed it (there's nothing better than seeing someone love something that you love)! Also, I've watched a few Dark reactions, and yours has been by far the best. S&P ftw ❤️👏

blizzity

Loved these reactions and watching this show for the first time with you guys. What an incredible show! I really recommend reacting or even watching on your own time the series ‘Lost’. The creators of ‘Dark’ have stated it was one of the few influences for the show and I definitely recognised some influence while watching. Definitely recommend it as you guys really enjoyed the mystery and the questions about life in ‘Dark’.

Jasper

I'll check out the book!

PIG

I originally joined this channel because of True Detective and then they just started watching Dark right then. It kept me here and I'm really impressed with their thoughts, dedication, and observations of an incredible show. I'll hang around but I'm really glad I discovered the two. Keep it up. I will miss your reactions to this crazy series.

PIG

i guess now they're ready to watch one of the of the most important sources of inspiration for Dark: Donnie Darko

Ciro-Andreas Buono

Bernd Doppler is Helge's father, not grandfather.

gusti

"Time-travel simultaneously exists and doesn’t exist. " Just like Schrödinger's cat.

gusti

She is probably not Katharina in the og world, since her mother named her after a time traveler a.k.a. Hannah/Katharina.

gusti

As others have said, young Noah killed Bartosz in the opening scene of Season 2. What blows my mind is that this is how the very first scene of Season 2 kick-started a pattern of children directly killing their parents or being the primary cause of their deaths (subsequent instances include Jonas/Michael, Claudia/Egon, Adam/Hannah), and the show doesn’t even tell us (explicitly, but there was a hint or two)! It is not until 13 episodes later (i.e., half a show later), during the pre-montage climax scene of Season 3 Episode 6, that we receive confirmation that that unknown man that young Noah axed was Bartosz! By the way, the reverse pattern also occurred in Season 3 where a (perceived) parent kills their child (for instance, Helene/Katharina, Tronte/Regina).

Raga G

thank you so much for your analysis and for watching this show! can’t wait to watch another show with you guys

Viv

It would’ve been nice to see old Claudia at the dinner table as well, witnessing how happy her daughter is.

Raga G

I don’t disagree, but just wanted to point out that the show did have to abandon biology for the knot to make sense, so I wouldn’t put forth any arguments based on biology as we know it. For example, while you’re right that Jonas is 50% Mikkel, it is also true that Mikkel is 6.25% Jonas. So, Jonas is 3.125% himself, which doesn’t even make sense! Crazy!!! (Of course, the loop with Charlotte and Elisabeth is even more nonsensical biologically.)

Raga G

That was beautiful journey...thank you so much for your reactions!!I have really enjoyed watching it with you again.

Josip Buretić

The middle age ones were done dirty in this episode lmao

alex evans

And if I remember, katherina never wanted children as a teenager. Maybe older katherina without ulrich therefore never had kids.

Ammaar Ahmed

Ong, that analysis point from pudgey was top tier

Ammaar Ahmed

I don't!

Ammaar Ahmed

I think you're missing one important thing about jonas and martha and how they should have never existed. Bcs that is right, they're an unnatural by product of meddling with time.and in the og world, they can never genetically exist. Maybe katherina and Hannah may have respective children with the same names, but they will be nothing like martha and jonas. HOWEVER, in the og world they did exist for a few minutes, where they saved tannhaus family. They endded the cycle of pain of their worlds, they confronted the truth of their existence and they bravely saved the life of an entire family, sacrificing theirs in return. And even though they should have never existed and their love was unnatural, they defied the odds and time and space, existence, and said that they were a perfect match. BTW whilst Hannah has a child called jonas, I think katherina may not have any children in the og world, bcs young katherina hated the idea of having kids. Without ulrich, maybe she kept to that?

Ammaar Ahmed

We know why bartosz doesn't work for Adam anymore bcs he was killed by young noah, his son, when they both were creating the passage.adam ordered noah to do it! First scene in s2

Ammaar Ahmed

Shows either choose to show or tell. Jonas taking mikkel to the cave was revealed by mikkel telling jonas he had led him. The show chose tell in that moment, but we actually then see it. So i don't understand why you would want to see it again̈ when mikkel not only explained it but the show overlaid his speech with the scenes. When jonas appears to middle aged Claudia, he looks really despondent, like he's been through a lot. almost depressed. He appears to her right after she realises she kill her father after trying to prevent it. Jonas appears to guide her bcs he has also just gone through that experience so knows how that can be like! I guess you guys didn't really realise he had already done through it ,, I realised first watch bcs see the impact of doing that on his acting, his facial features. And it made sense also that he would appear to middle aged Claudia at the moment.

Ammaar Ahmed

I agree with y’all and choose to think that now Jonas and Martha’s souls will be reborn in the origin world and be able to have normal existences🤞

Sarah Stapleton

My only wish is that they had shown a little more how Claudia was able to escape the knot

Sarah Stapleton

The bridge when they see their younger self is literally the glitch in the matrix. When world one quantum -entangled jonas convinces Martha from world 2 to believe him, he refers to the glitch in which they've seen eachother before somehow. When they're on the light bridge, they're literally outside of all worlds and are glitching if that make sense. They're not part of the timeline exactly and they are. Similar to how originally magnus world 1 takes martha from world 2 and jonas stops it, changing that timeline. The fact they go out of the two worlds creates the glitch that then appears in their memories when they were younger. Im rambling but I see it as how tannhaus created the two worlds and the knot. He does his experiment and suddenly two entire worlds are created where jonas is guided and manipulated by Adam. Just as there was no beginning there, that whole knot always existed, with a past present and future; when martha and jonas leave both worlds through the bridge, they then create the glitch which becomes a memory. It's not exactly a memory like how memories work for you and me. Something in the past that concretely happened, ite chicken and egg, a timeloop, one that as created the second they headed to the third world.

Ammaar Ahmed

On aleksander, the show didn't really mislead you at all on tat. The whole diversion was all pudgey. He appears on screen as a teen and meets regina, and pudgey automatically assumed he was a time traveller and that the show confirmed that in the scene, when he appeared. This despite it never doing that. And Spartan just went along with pudgey 😆 I remember the irony that in the discussion after you both said, we shouldn't treat everything as 100% fact and then pudgey went on to treat aleksander the traveller as fact. But we finally got there 🙌

Ammaar Ahmed

Idk if you remember, but maybe at the start of season 3, the news in the background mentions how the earth stood still for a sec during the apocalypse, (Spartan may have missed it, but I remember pudgey reacting to it with a wow)

Ammaar Ahmed

Quantum entanglement is how they are able to break the knot.

Ammaar Ahmed

Sorry pudgey you don't get to absolve your disaster performance with Dark by a few right theories 😆 . Overall Spartan been wayyyy ahead of you

Ammaar Ahmed

I do like the ending "jonas" name reveal. I wouldnt have written it differently. However i think its pretty obvious the baby born will not be the Jonas we know, given Mikkel doesnt exist in this world, the normal jonas is 50% mikkel. Its pretty normal to assume that any version of Hannah would have named any son she had jonas or have had a preference for that name. Still lovely little 4th wall break

Ammaar Ahmed

The people at the end are the only ones not born of the knot. That's why Claudia said Regina will live (I think the powerplant and timetravel probably gives her or aggravates the cancer). That's why the reveal that tronte is not her dad is important. Tronte is born of the knot, therefore Regina could only exist in those two worlds if she was Tronte's daughter. Claudia is also not born from the knot, which is why maybe she was the best suited to breaking it.

Ammaar Ahmed

Will check out the book recommended you gave also. Sounds really interesting and right up my alley. Excellent reaction i thoroughly enjoyed every moment.

Kiwi GirlnCo

Thank you so much for this Journey! Spartan and Pudgey definitely rocked this reaction series 🎈🌟🥳 Looking forward to the live stream, make sure to ask for stuff beforehand. Maybe talk about your faves, sneaky snakes and other things, maybe talk about the items that traveled through time (Time Machine, pendant, Gretchen etc…)

K

Young Jonas and young Martha seeing their future teenage selves is possible because, in this space, cause and effect collapse into simultaneity. Quantum entangled particles that “know” about each other across time, Jonas and Martha are entangled souls. What happens to one, on a metaphysical level, reverberates across all versions of them. Even if their teenage selves only go to the bridge once, the memory or resonance of that moment exists in the timeless space and echoes backward into their childhood selves. I read about all this type of thing before i had seen this show. Its quite astonishing really, and above my head for the most part. Best show ever 🖤

Kiwi GirlnCo

Pudgey what you said about love being the bridge between the nature of men and women really stuck with me! Thank you guys for your analysis, you guys are so thoughtful and smart and that's why I love your reactions! Will buy the Freedom book, thank you for recommending it!

21chouettes

What an incredible paradox this finale is. Tanhaus loses his family, creates a time-machine that allows for Martha and Jonas to exist, who travel to the origin world preventing the accident in the first place, which means Tanhaus never actually creates the time-machine. So in other words, the existence of time-travel is prevented by the existence of time-travel. Time-travel simultaneously exists and doesn’t exist. What a freaking show man, kudos to these writers, they’re absolute geniuses, and well done to you both, you actually did very well! Awesome to see how much you enjoyed this wild ride

Alex I.

Loved your reactions and discussions! I don't think I can ever watch another show or movie with time travel without immediately thinking "Hmm, Dark propably did it better". With Game of Thrones and Dark, you have now watched 2 of my 3 favorite especially reactworthy shows, now only Cobra Kai left!! ;)

Redoculus

I find the closet scene hard to wrap my head around. But I think of it as the child versions of Jonas and Marta are witnessing themselves in their third overlapping reality. The third split reality is unique in that it only happens once whereas the other two continued on an infinite number of times. It only needs to happen once to end the knot. So I’m assuming Adam and Eva also had this unexplainable closet moment as children, they just never received an explanation for it or continued on with life believing it was a dream. Only THIS cycle’s teenage Marta and Jonas live out this third split reality they overlapped with as children and realize they were always meant to do this eventually.

Mykala

Thank you both for an incredible journey! I’m not usually one to comment much, but Dark has been the show I’ve been recommending and hoping you’d watch since I first discovered your channel years ago. I knew you’d love it! It completely blew my mind the first time I saw it, and it fits your immersive, in-depth reaction style perfectly. Just like I know Westworld Season 1 will too! ;) But I’ll patiently wait for that one. Thanks again!

Matt

Congrats you guys 👏🏼👏🏼. I don’t think Jonas and Martha will be born, maybe someone else with their names but not exactly them. Jonas is the son of Mikkel and Hannah, and Martha the daughter of Katherina and Ulrich. The ones we know won’t be able to exist because Ulrich and Mikkel do not exist without time travel.

Luis Cal Y Mayor

Cool detail - Sonja is an anagram for Jonas and MARek TAnnhaus is Marta. A cool nod to them in the origin world. I like to think that these two are a mirror of sorts to our Jonas and Marta. Jonas and Marta only exist because Sonja and Marek die, and in the end, Sonja and Marek only exist because Jonas and Marta die. They really are like angels to each other. Also, Alexander exists in the origin world but most likely never meets Regina. They met when Katarina and Ulrich were bullying Regina but since Ulrich doesn’t exist, this interaction never happens. Found it funny that in the car, Sonja says “You can’t choose your family” since that is an ongoing theme in DARK, especially for those in the knot.

Mykala

Im glad you picked up on the final scene. I love that the characters in that scene have no ties to the knot. Characters that didn't contribute to their own parentage or family. It's cool.

Tyler Hargrove

DARK! Tannhaus loses his family, builds a time machine, turns it on, and the span of about zero seconds it works and he doesn't even realize. Meanwhile, in that zero seconds he created a bubble universe where people lived out countless lives in a nearly endless causality loop. *slow clap*

temsik28

For sure. First time, when I saw them teleporting in front of the car my heart skipped a few beats. That would have been so wild.

temsik28

It has been an honor🙏❤️ For a 1st time watch run, you guys have done spectacularly. Time to watch it *2 more times, as goes the tradition of 'threes' in Dark😉

danii

You just know deep in your bones that the writers were probably considering making Jonas and Martha the reason for the crash and the show would end with everything starting again, but they chose the light, not the shadow

James Waters

Regina exists in the origin world because his original father is Bernd Doppler (former nuclear plant boss and Helge's grandfather). Bernd is not part of the family tree that stuck in a cycle. If her father was to be Tronte, Regina wouldn't exist in the origin world because Tronte is part of that family tree (because his mother is Agnes who is daughter of Bartosz and his father is Jonas and Martha's son.)

Berat Y.

Great post episode discussion you guys. Anyone borne of any of the time travelers does not exist in the origin world. Tracing tha families back to what happened after Tannhous created the glitch on time is what was wrong. Have to look at family trees. Lots more but I am tired and do not fully grasp a couple of things.

Lyn Hurst

Oh wow, I swear I discover something new everyday 🤣

Minerva Ravenclaw

Wanted to also say thank you for reacting to Dark, it's my personal favorite series, glad you loved it .I super super enjoyed the reactions, you were both amazing with the discussions and analysis! Really impressive 🙌🏻🩷

Minerva Ravenclaw

If you do a livestream, can you look at the family tree on the dark website? :)

Jonas Sander

We don't see Bartosz with Adam because Noah kills him if you remember the intro in s02, where Noah is opening the passage in the cave, with a man, that man is adult Bartosz and then Noah (his son) kills him with an ax.

Minerva Ravenclaw

You guys did so well for your first watch of the series, there are so many little details that you pick up on a rewatch though that really make Dark such a special series. Also, I think the significance of child Jonas and Martha both seeing each other through the closet is really only there to represent the idea that the two of them are fated across time and space, though that's just my take on that scene. Almost as if the two are imprinted on each other, star crossed lovers you could say. I've watched the show three times over the years and I'm not 100% clear on every little detail, Claudia for example; like Spartan said, surely if everything always repeats itself Claudia would have found the loophole in the other cycles and in theory there would then only ever be one cycle. But hey... quantum entanglement is certainly a fickle business, one I'm not nearly qualified enough to try and unpack. So in general I just like to tip my hat to the writers and directors and say, bloody good job guys, absolutely smashed it. You can only imagine what that writers room must've looked like, family trees upon family trees, notes upon notes. Enough two fill an entire office block in two worlds.

Ryan Copeland

You have both been so awesome during this reaction! I’ve enjoyed every minute! 😍

James

Everybody that was born of Jonas and Martha was part of the knot. Everyone from the Tronte family was part of the knot. Regina's father was Bern Doppler (the old guy we saw in the picture), not Tronte. So she wasn't part of the knot. Katharina, Hannah, Peter, they all married into the members of the knot, so they weren't really part of it. Bartosz was killed by young Noah at the start of season 2.

Golladan

I also don’t understand the look into their child selves in the closet and memories of seeing them there but perhaps it’s the same as the explanation that Charlotte and Elizabeth are both each others mom & daughter 😅 However you might be right Pudgey, it’s very well because it’s happening at the same time. (Will’s now memories 🤣) Without Ulrich, Alexander wouldn’t have met Regina so there would be no Bartoz. Could have happened because they are outside of the knot, basically not born of Bartoz or Jonas. Regina’s father is Helge’s father Bernd Doppler so in the origin world, Regina and Helge are half siblings but not by blood because Bernd is not Helge’s biological father. The end you can see the three of them together in the photo. Bartoz wasn’t with Adam in the end because he was the one Hanno/Noah killed with the pickaxe, S2 E1(?). Remember when he questioned Bartoz about losing faith? Bartoz was with the Jonas that became Adam. He was ready to let that happen to him.

Cortney K

tannhaus saved his son and he will never know it

Chris

If you looked back at the bunker entrance, you would see that in Martha's and Jonas's worlds the bunker opened to the side (opposite sides), but the bunker where Tannhaus was making his experiment it opened upwards. Little detail that seemed odd last episode that makes sense this time.

Golladan

Can’t wait to watch this tomorrow. Sad that the journey is over - thanks for the journey gang

Ammaar Ahmed

Omygod guys. Haven’t watched it yet just got home. Just want to say it’s been so fun watching you on this journey and I am going to miss it so much 😩♥️ Edit after watching: that void you’re feeling is the PDD. told you. it doesn’t really ever go away. 😂

Ali S.

Lets go!

Ignorance

ohh im so ready for this

Berat Y.

My body is ready!

Golladan


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