Special Podcast: Jim Sterling And Digital Homicide Hash It Out

Not sure how I hadn't listened to this "interview" but just had to become a Patreon, before the recording before it was finished. I have no idea how Jim Fucking Sterling Son manage to tolerate this guys BS for as long as he did. This guy thinks he's a brilliant PR expert but comes across as a self important juvenile idiot.

John Patz

Just got around to listening to this now. That was an amazingly painful demonstration of a lack of knowledge and basic critical reasoning skills. I actually feel a little bad for him. Just a little. More amazing still is that this is the best set of arguments that a *group* of people could come up with given that they had all the time in the world to prepare. Pathetically tone deaf. (Stay in school, kids ... or at least, read a lot!) Jim was spot on, though... no surprises there.

Had to become a patron after that interview with DH. It was Beautiful! Full of so much emotion, stupidity, contradiction. It was a rollercoaster ride of conflicted feelings. I love and hate people some times

Well, talking to Robert is like talking to a brick wall. He's not absorbing anything Jim is saying; if he were, he wouldn't keep making the same points and asking the same questions after Jim had already addressed him. He's got a script or at the very least, a list of very specific bullet points that he's reading from.

Brad Riegner

Ooh, somebody learned all his interview techniques from Fox News pundits. Talking over the person your interviewing when they start to give an answer you don't like, emphatically asking yes-or-no questions that require more nuanced answers, using dictionary definitions for metaphors, jumping on the first word of the answer and drowning out the rest for fear that it will hurt him... ...Oh oh! Found another one: using a research assistant to feed you answers through an earpiece while your counterpart has to do it all himself!

Brad Riegner

The Courtney stuff was amazingly creepy, damn. 1 hour, 15 minutes in, and I still don't know what this guy's point is. The fact the video went back up doesn't absolve him of falsely submitting a copyright claim, either. It's so goddamned weird.

Dan Sparks

"I guess i'm unsure who I've wronged since my video was directed at only sterling and to be honest his subscriber base increased 40% off of the "controversy". who are these people you and others say i have wronged? For everyone's constant reminder to allow free speech I sure seem to be under attack for having voiced mine." 40%!

Dan Sparks

I imagine that listening to this is similar to Nicolas Cage watching the snuff film in 8MM. A lot of cringing and wincing. #JimCeption

Yeah, It's Back!

Signed up just because he wouldn't shut up about your patreon. Hell, didn't even know what it was till this idiot. PS I use Unity this guys full of shit.

GODDAMMIT! I'm listening to it again and I can't stop myself! I've worked with/for people who have no one around them but "yes men/women". This is what you get. "this self obsessed numpty" is perfect even if I don't know what a numpty is.

phredgsanford

I patreonized Jim Fucking Sterling Son! before I finished listening to this.

phredgsanford

Rob doesn't really have anything to be ashamed of here. It's an interesting exchange between two humans. And I hope Jim can see that he isn't a con artist. He's functioning at roughly the same level as most people, almost definitely including most of the commentators here and on Jim's website. Especially if they are harassing him as he says. Jim functions on a higher level, something closer to "intelligent life". Why that is? Could be education, could be environment, could be something evolution doles out evenly like sexual orientation, but we shouldn't shame Rob. Rob isn't well established like celebrities are. You'd feel bad if he killed himself.

Michael

As a games developer, all I can say is: Jesus, Jim, why would you even. Just listening to this nonsense hurts my ears. I believe I’m not the only dev that could, and would stand on your side of this argument. We’re here with you.

Mateusz Skutnik

jim you have the patience of a saint. id have hung up on him after the 1st 10 mins.

Drachma55

I kind of feel sorry for this guy. I'm not doctor but if this not all an act, this man may need some serious help. I suggest this man get some help with therapy and or medication. I'm not sure what is wrong but it's kind of mind boggling how this guy thinks.

Joshua Chap

Jim did an incredible job to try and keep on top of that incoherent blabbering. I would have definitely lost my patience during the last half an hour or so when Rob just repeated the same thing over and over again. Thanks for stomaching it, Jim. You have given DH the chance to show their real character, which has just further hurt them in my opinion due to their inability to discuss the topic like the adults they are (at least age wise). Roberts attempts to stick some false claims to you (I'm talking about that author person who shares your last name) hilariously backfire. I still wonder though what point he tried to make with that.

Pretty sure ten minutes in and I've already cringed more than DH have ever felt shame...well, whoever they *actually* are beyond the Wizard of Rob here.

This guy bases his arguments on the definitions Jim defines FOR him, which end up going against what he brings up in the first place. He also constantly resorts to personal attacks rather than a real issue. Rather than taking anything jim says to thought for his game development, he tries to find ways to turn it around. Check this out; if he took what jim said to heart, he would be able to make a better game, and burn jim that way. It's nice to know the man behind Digital Homicide. 100% what I expected.

medhathobo

I worry for Digital Homicide. It's not healthy to hold that much hate and disdain while being so disconnected from reality. I'm also amazed at Jim's patience, a lesser man ( like me !) would have started shouting and disconnected from the call.

I thought you handled yourself really well Jim, thanks for going to bat on this one. I have yet to listen to the full thing, but do you manage to nail him at all with the "Consumer advocacy" part of your job description? As in, he's basically trying to con people into buying his games and you are doing US a service by exposing what the games are like so we don't accidentally buy one expecting a quality product

Nav

That guy may have a compulsive need to be the 'king of the hill', also maybe just trying to squeeze some publicity out of this situation still :T

Tokifuji

Yeah, if you let it run to the very last second, you actually hear him saying "how'd I do" right before the call cuts out

How does he not get that there is a difference between using assets to create something worthwhile like The Jimquisition, and using assets to create something awful? Every piece of art created is derivative of something that came before it, it is the nature of creativity

Also, I love the parts where you can here his buddy whispering things to him.

Jordan Biordi

My god. It was very hard to listen to this much stupid coming from one person for that long.

Jordan Biordi

You've got to love how Robert's argument basically comes down to "Ooh well... you're using assets in YOUR videos too" and never really gets into the heart of the matter, which is that he's making bad, bug-ridden games and expects people to help bug test them for him. He also clearly can't take criticism in any form, and therefore has to deny that criticism has any value whatsoever. Ridiculous. Sadly, I also got the impression - as Jim stated - that Robert's whole tone throughout the interview seems to imply that he believes he won.

Christopher Clayton

I wanted to commend Jim on humouring this interview. mincing words, he-said-she-said, and all that's in-between aside; as someone who has viewed Jim from his early days in the escapist on... I have never had the impression much less been incentivised to attack anyone by his work. This Robert, failed to understand that his work if nothing else gives people a heads up about a product, in partucular an inferior product.

Completely agree with Scappo here. You need a round 2 - with an impartial moderator.

This was really painful to listen to, I couldn't make it through the whole thing.

Nickwolf

Wow...what this really conversation really needs is a moderator. The DH guy just loves to talk over Jim and constantly talks to him like he's one of his kids XP... He's also constantly backpedaling, changing the subject whenever the conversation doesn't go his way, and comes off as a whining, petulant, jealous child who loves to bring up how much money Jim makes/has made. Also, DH seems hung up on the fact that Jim uses assets he didn't make in his videos, so why shouldn't he be able to use assets he didn't make in his games?? Well, because as a Game Developer you're also obliged to have an ARTISTIC VISION and to convey that vision with your games....not slap stock assets together in a certain way and call it a game. That said, this conversation is very hilarious, despite the shaky audio quality.

Scappo

The ONLY point he makes which is ok... is the "where your first videos professional?" Well no, but then he goes off the ledge... You know what, I think I know what this guy is going for... but am now just trying to work out how to help him put it into words which make sense. Cause, arguments and opinions are valid... but now he needs to put them together coherently.

Yes, if both Jim Sterling and Digital Homicide bake a cake, they're both "baking a cake", but the fact that Jim uses milk and eggs as opposed to DH crapping and pissing in the bowl makes just a smidge of difference. Do you see that, Digital Homicide? It took less than 100 words to derail an argument you spent half an hour trying to stutter out.

Chris

I gathered from the tone Robert gave me, he truly believes he won.

Jim Sterling

Insults, rhetoric, and Leech definitions abound!

Admonished

This reminds me shockingly of the Podtoid inverterview between Robert Summa and Anthony Burch. Minus all the pedophile jokes though.

Beeray Echo

Oh my god, this is so epic! The obvious way in which he tries to lure you into admitting stuff...priceless!

I listened to several snippets throughout that interview. I'll be honest I found it uncomfortable listening. I don't take much pleasure in listening to someone verbally bash their head against an anvil in the firm belief that it will eventually crack. It's somewhat tragic that someone making video games, someone working in a creative industry, where having a finger on the pulse is so important. has less ability to see beyond themselves and perceived injustices against them. They cannot see just how awful the trash they produce is (either that or they are massively in denial) My 10 year old nephew could argue with more perception than this self obsessed numpty. Honestly I'm amazed they sent you the recording. They must have had some perception that they came out of that shambles quite well.

James Flinders

Sorry for the nitpick, but don't you mean irresistible force there Jim?

Jonathan Tanner

"But my games have gotten better!!!!"...except that doesn't justify charging for them in the first place given their current quality.

Wain

This is going to be amazing!

Beeray Echo