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BLACK WIDOW

Hey Rangers, were back on the MCU movie train with *Black Widow* hope you guys enjoy our reaction!

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Qui Gon's death was actual plot. Without this one incident, Anakin does not become Vader. Dooku lost his... cool, stormtroopers lost their... helmets to Yoda, A stab and pull is fine because the wound doesn't cauterize, it melts and leaves a hole, not a scar.

GQubed

Palpatine killed Master Kolar with a stab to the gut in ROTS too tho, I honestly have no problem with the surviving it, it’s the moving around the next day like it was nothing that’s crazy to me

TC24

Qui Gon's death is the opposite of plot armor. He needed to die because we had to find a way to kill him and also have a emotional scene. Can't do this if he is beheaded or cut in half.

baiovarii

“Flourishing” got me crying😂…if only Qui Gon got that Filoni treatment

TC24

Even a hint of common sense goes a long way for me in these movies. Next thing they will have people getting stabbed by lightsabers and flourishing.

GQubed

The surgery is ok but he should be dead in the hummer that was transfered into a sieve from bottom to the roof and also when he fell from the sky in his Mark 1. Just to be clear here the scene is stupid but I stopped to apply biology / physics from the real world in superhero,action or horror movies a long time ago.

baiovarii

At least Tony had surgery done on him. Widow fell off a building, bent in half when she hit a ledge and then landed on her feet... nah she's fine. Soon as that happened I just lost interest and Nat is an awesome character.

GQubed

If we are honest the MCU should have ended after the first 45-50 minutes of Ironman. Tony should have been dead twice before he returned home.

baiovarii

The problem wasn't Disney in this case, the problem was Ike Perlmutter. He didn't think that movies with female or black leads would make money. Look at how she was potrait in her first appearances until Civil War (Winter Soldier was an exception because the Russo's knew how to write her character). After Feige took over in 2015 this changed but there wasn't any timeslot for a Black Widow movie without disturbing the road to Endgame. They started planning for the last two movies in 2014 so the road was (unfortunately) set after that date.

baiovarii

I would just watch no way home then go to Hawkeye.

Hood44

I just wish they stuck with like maybe 4 or 5 different series and waited to finish fhem before moving on.

ParsivalXP

True, atleast they stuck with the marvel movies and the monster verse movies lol

ParsivalXP

Gotta win a poll (that’s why I always warn people when they vote for a movie that’s part of a franchise). Chances of that sequel being watched are slim.

imperial

You are definitely not in the minority when it comes to the What If series. Some of those episodes deserve Emmy nominations in my opinion.

imperial

lol I’m definitely with you on the training dragons series. Narnia not so much.

imperial

Exactly. Disney really missed a great opportunity overall with Black Widow. She could've had a 3 movie scenario between the events of Winter soldier and Civil War with her and Hawkeye teaming up. Couldve also had other Avengers making appearances. Too bad Disney didnt think it would be successful.

SavageDiplomat

I agree! Since the timeline takes place right after the Civil War. It should have been released after the Civil War. I had no idea that she helped Cap break the guys out of prison after the Civil War until I saw this.

Traneisha

This movie would actually be good with one minor change... Widow needs the super soldier serum, otherwise she is dead 4 or 5 times in this one at least.

GQubed

I did really enjoy this film but I do also think it missed a couple of tricks. Personally I think they should have gone all in on the darkness of the back story. Also, while I appreciate the more Cap2 & 3 style of action I'm not convinced it 100% lived up to it. However it was great seeing Johansson one last time and Pugh was brilliant as Yelena.

Hamza Darby

CANNOT WAIT for Hawkeye! youre going to LOVE it!!!

Monique Drewett

Happy you guys enjoyed it! Ive never understood why this movie gets so much hate. Its not the best movie, but I think its really enjoyable.

Daniel

Great reaction guys. I think Marvel screwed up with this movies release. There was no reason to have this movie released after Endgame. That end credit scene isnt justification to me. Black Widow shouldve had a movie right after Cap Civil War or even after Cap Winter Soldier when Hydra fell. Watching it after Endgame feels hollow since we know she died.

SavageDiplomat

You want good trilogies. Definitely check out How To Train Your Dragon and The Chronicles of Narnia!!!!

Christian

Some of the action scenes are a bit much, but it's a comic book movie so you have to roll with that stuff. Some of that stuff bothered me during my initial viewing, but not so much this time. I may be in the minority, but I thought the What If...? series was one of the strongest entries in Phase Four so I'm interested to see your reaction to it.

Mitchell Smilie

Can you guys finish the kingsman movies?

ParsivalXP

Great reaction guys, you can watch “what if” if you want but you can watch the next two films shang chi and eternals

Andres Avendaño

"It looks like a dance" It was only hinted at in age of ultron when scarlet witch hit black widow with the nightmares but the black widows were trained as ballerinas first then assassins. Makes them better able to do things like land on their feet from high up and fight. Also dracovs daughter was mentioned in avengers when loki was trying to get in her head from the cage to prove her ledger is gushing red and saving Barton won't save her

Rigs216

Would it be cool if at the end of every movie y’all watch the trailer for next(mcu) movie it’ll give y’all an extra excitement & get us hyped for it! Just a suggestion.

Prince Zay

Take out She hulk i am groot n werewolf by night n da christmas special n we good

John smith

Definitely not supposed to be watched yet. They have yet to watch quite a bit. Here's Marvel Phase Four (in order of Release) WandaVision (Disney Plus series, 2021) Falcon and the Winter Soldier (Disney Plus series, 2021) Loki season 1 (Disney Plus series) Black Widow (2021) What If...? (Disney Plus series, 2021) Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (2021) Eternals (2021) Hawkeye (Disney Plus series, 2021) Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021) Moon Knight (Disney Plus series, 2022) Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness (2022) Ms. Marvel (Disney Plus series, 2022) Thor: Love and Thunder (2022) I Am Groot (Disney Plus series, 2022) She-Hulk (Disney Plus series, 2022) Werewolf By Night (Disney Plus special, 2022) Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (2022) Guardians of the Galaxy Christmas Special (Disney Plus special, 2022)

Kevin

Have you watched no way home? I believe that was supposed to be watched already

APOCOLYP_3 3

True... but there was also things to dislike about it as well.

Justin Cross

Yes Vince that is the dad from Incredible Hulk, he was also in civil war and endgame maybe some other ones too

Simon

They continue it through Hawkeye

Hood44

Hawkeye now!!!!

Hood44

Just a random off topic thing but ive noticed the last few films yall have watched godzilla v kong, It, and now black widow all contained an actor from stranger things

Jacob Alley

@Vince, Yes the old man in the beginning that is after Natasha is General Thunderbolt Ross, and yes he was involved with Tony during Captain America Civil War, as well as the General in The Incredible Hulk as well... In the comics he also happens to eventually become "The Red Hulk".

Justin Cross

That vest Yelena gave her is the same one she had in infinity war when she showed up with cap and falcon to save Wanda and Vision

Arnold

Can't wait for you guys to see Hawkeye! Love your reactions as always! I personally loved this movie. I think they did Black Widow justice especially after what she did in Infinity War and Endgame.

Keane

Hey man I never said anything about mishandling the character I was talking about people complaining that it was a woman u can't sit here and act like that wasn't the talk.

Rashad Walker

I get we're all excited for Spider-Man, but there are some great projects between like Shang Chi and What If

Cardboard

"It's disingenuous to focus only on the opinions of those who were upset about the gender swap while ignoring how they've legitimately mishandled the character."

Piss On Your Grave

Hell ya gonna save this for when I clock in today

Simon

The gender swap did matter otherwise people wouldn't of wined and moaned about it

Rashad Walker

lol the gender swap hardly matters; they turned Taskmaster into a mindless robot. It's disingenuous to focus only on the opinions of those who were upset about the gender swap while ignoring how they've legitimately mishandled the character.

Piss On Your Grave

So after watching a 2nd time with you guys, I liked it a little more than I originally thought. I like the opening scene a lot. But then the movie drags on for a bit, and Taskmaster was underwhelming. I do like the family aspect. The “parents” were the best part for me and had some good laughs. I actually like that final free-falling sequence with all the debris even though it’s unrealistic lol. I think a 6 rating is fair.

imperial

It has some really great episodes tho. I would hope they watch it

Cardboard

You don’t need to watch what if? just wasting your time

Louis Okundaye

It explain about the multiverse and talks on what if tony stark never became Iron man or What if Thanos wasn’t a genocide maniac

Jarick Richardson

@Fujipredator I’m surprised you haven’t watched What If. It can definitely be skipped since it’s telling “what if” stories from other universes and timelines. But I thought the stories were incredible, and better than most of the movies. And the animation was fantastic. Some of the stories were so good that I wanted 2 hour movies of them. Especially the Doctor Strange episode. Now I just want MORE animated Marvel projects.

imperial

I thought the movie was fine ..lot of comic folks didn't like the gender swap of taskmaster which is one of the reasons people trashed it....only thing that took me out a bit was the unrealistic action scenes at times. Natasha falling from high spaces without getting hurt and like Shoshanna said about nobody getting hit with the debris as their falling but otherwise a solid 6 outta 10

Rashad Walker

Uh no it's not lol

Rashad Walker

Nah it was mostly due to them nerfing taskmaster. They didn't show him to be the character we know he is. He/she should've been a way more bigger threat than it was portrayed in this movie.

Anthony Garcia

No it's a good thing u didn't listen to people saying watch this early becuase Natasha dying would of spoiled it in the post credits

Rashad Walker

Taskmaster is able to mimic everyone's fighting style except Deadpool mainly cause he doesn't have a style lol

Anthony Garcia

I never watched what if. Is it really that important to the MCU? Cause I feel they could just skip it especially since it’s animated

David

I agree I also enjoyed it a lot. Cast was great. I think people were upset it was done after endgame because they already knew Natasha died.

Kevin Matthew

Potential how?

Anthony Garcia

The daughter is know as taskmaster and he is a male in the comic books and he’s Spider-Man’s nemesis and he has the ability to Mimic the Avengers

Jarick Richardson

I liked this movie a lot more than most, but, as others have said, it coming out post-Endgame definitely hurt its presentation. When I first joined this channel, I tried to get this watch to happen after Homecoming, which it ends up being a much stronger film, but I absolutely understand the reasons to go in release order. But, yeah, much better film than people give it credit for. The action scenes are solid, the new characters (Yelena, Red Guardian) are great, and I really wasn't put off by the change they made to Taskmaster...I really think there's potential there.

Holly R

I was never a huge fan of this movie. Making it a prequel, it didn't feel like it mattered too much. The villian was a bit too goofy for my taste (the smelly superpower), and the story overall was just meh. With that being said, Yelena is easily the highlight of the movie for me and I can't wait for you guys to see more of her in the future!

Cardboard

The only thing this movie did was introduce Yelena for future movies and shows. Can't wait to keep moving on in the MCu

Zac Cochrane

Next show is What if, next movie is Shang-Shi and the 10 Rings

Thunter

Spider-Mans next

Tommy

Was not a huge fan of this one. It was supposed to come out years before it did. Coming out after End Game with Black Widow dead already, it just didn’t feel like it mattered much. And it felt pretty generic. But it will be enjoyable to watch for a 2nd time with you guys.

imperial

No What if comes next check in the release order

Jarick Richardson

False, spider man

Darragh O’Reilly

Next is What If

Jarick Richardson

There’s definitely things to like in this movie, but it just came out at the wrong time. This was the first MCU movie to come out post lockdown, and a LOT of fans felt it didn’t live up to the anticipation of having to wait nearly two years. It’s of course set between Civil War and Infinity War, and should’ve come out during that time in real life.

Nicholas Obici


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