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Pretty Little Liars | 1x3

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You mean like how I responded to your last comment …. 🤔🤔🤔🤔 I really don’t understand what your deal is. Lol

Travis Manning

The problem there isn't the actors portraying them being adults the problem is that the story is about all these adults having relationships with children. That has nothing to do with the actors. You're making it sound like the actors are out here doing anything wrong or creepy by portraying the characters that they were hired to portray. Its the story that's the issue not the fact that adults portrayed adults and a child portrayed a child. Let's not lose the plot please.

Lina D

What are you actually on about? Genuinely.

Lina D

I doubt he'd respond. He doesn't seem to respond to comments pointing this out. Maybe he just doesn't feel like he needs to justify himself, or maybe its something else. Either way, yeah. I'd also like to hear his thoughts on this. I'd be very interested to know why he keeps on romanticising the inappropriate/creepy relationships even though it's already been pointed out several times that it's wrong because they're minors.

kalindiinga28

Idk, I'd have to disagree. Sure, the actors weren't attracted to Sasha, but still. The fact that they had to *act* attracted to a literal child is still icky, because Sasha herself was a child and they were adults. Just imagine that. Imagine being an adult actor and having to act out being attracted to a minor character who is actually a minor actor IRL. Or imagine being Sasha and having adult actors having to act like they're attracted to you, a minor IRL, playing a minor character. It's icky.

kalindiinga28

She looks like she could be Denise Richard's daughter or sister, 100%. I was literally about to pause the video and make that comment when you started to say "she looks like..." so I waited to see what you would say first. 🙃 p.s. Denise Richards and Charlie Sheen brought their black lab into the Veterinary Specialty Hospital I worked at in Ventura California back in 2000; it was for a broken leg. (Holy shit, time flies!)

JennaB

The problem is not that adult actors portray them (the actors aren't the ones attracted to Alison and nobody was out there on set attracted to Sasha Pieterse), the problem is that the CHARACTERS are adults while Alison is a child. Who they're being played by has pretty much nothing to do with it.

Lina D

LOVE HIM (Mike not Predatezra)

Lina D

Mike's Mic made that exact point a while back. I agree, they could have just shifted them into college. Then it would be more believable and less creepy, but alas...here we are.

Lina D

Yep it’s on her Instagram. And she talked about living in michigan and never wanting to leave here on a podcast.

Nikki S

Seriously?!

Dustee Lodholtz

I see. How does this sponsor thing work? Do I ask about that on Discord? Nvm I'm slowly getting the hang of this Discord thing 😆

Heida

Whaaat

Travis Manning

No one has sponsored it yet so it’s not that surprising given that those take priority 😬

Travis Manning

To both of you, I'm so sorry that happened to you 💔❤

Heida

Yeah I'm surprised since he only has one season left of TVD and timeline wise TO starts at the end of S4/beginning of S5.

Heida

I don't think Travis has started The Originals yet, but I can't wait for that show as I like it more than TVD.

Mariah

Not sure if someone else mentioned it but the actress who plays Melissa lives on a farm here in Michigan now and just got married the other day❤️❤️

Nikki S

This show really boxed themselves in, in my opinion, with sticking to the book material by having the main female characters be in high school rather than college. When we’re reading the books, all you have is the description of them as young girls and can easily remember that these relationships with grown mean are so illegal and inappropriate. However, on screen, all of the girls besides the actress for Allison are played by actresses in their 20s. So, when we see relationships between Ezra and Aria, Spencer and Wren, etc., on screen as opposed to reading about it, it doesn’t look quite as bad we can easily forget that the girls are indeed minors because it’s like “oh yeah they look the same age as the guys so it’s fine”. Then you remember all of the girls are meant to be in high school 🤢 I’m interested to hear your perspective on this

megan ♡

in the wise words of Mike’s Mic on YouTube “Ezra Flops. Felon. Crustlord of the century”

megan ♡

So, in three episodes we’ve had two adult men being inappropriate with teenage girls and one instance of SA … the stuff that was allowed to air on tv in 2010 is wild

Flo

Theres so much of that inappropriate adult on minor relationshipping or kissing in this show that it honestly is just impractical to mention it every time. You kinda just gotta be like..."okay every man in this show is gross and weird. I do not condone their behavior" and then just power the hell through without thinking about it too much or too deeply

Lina D

Thank you, you deserved better too! I'm from Germany so I think it's not very likely we had the same one, right?

Noa (they_them)

Bruh the way I just spat my coffee

Lina D

Yeah...If I werent pretty much 100% sure youre not from my town I'd ask if we had the same english teacher. Sorry that happened to you. You deserved better than to have that happening

Lina D

This is my first time watching this show and the more I see the clearer it gets why this was the favourite show of my english teacher back when I was ~15 y.o. and why she thought it was a good idea to text me stuff like "I saw you in the hall today and wanted to hug you so badly" or repeatedly tried to convince me to stay the night at her place...

Noa (they_them)

We shall

Kristina Fagan

Toby is one of my favorite characters. I’m so glad u like PLL

mari johnston

Agree with other commenters about Hanna and Sean. And, again, Spencer is a minor while Wren is an adult. I feel bad for Melissa but she's also kind of a bitch so... Toby appeared in the pilot at the funeral but it was a different actor, James Neate. He was replaced by Keegan Allen, who originally auditioned for Wren. He's got a special look but they tried to make him extra creepy in the show. Fun fact: When Spencer is copying Melissa's essay from her computer, you can see a picture of Torrey DeVitto (Melissa) and Jessie Baylin (the blonde), who is a singer and wife of Nathan Followill from Kings of Leon. Btw, have you not started watching The Originals? I can't find it in the archive or on your page anywhere. The only reason I'm asking is because the actor who plays Ben is in it and you don't seem to recognise him. He and Candice Accola (Caroline in TVD) are dating and have been since Dec 2023.

Heida

Oh Ben is 100% an a$$hole. I'm just saying, if it had been Sean pushing Hanna, people would feel differently, and we shouldn't. He has a right to choose when and if he has sex. Hanna should respect that. I would say the difference between her and Ben is that she was hurt by the rejection and Ben just wouldn't take no for an answer. But both Ben and Hanna continued to push their partners after being told no, and that's not ok.

MamaSeesa

I meeean yes and no. Of course she shouldn’t be pressuring him and he has every right to not want to for any reason. But that scene of Ben physically overpowering Emily in the girl’s locker room definitely hits different than Hanna cowering away and feeling sorry for herself. Ben is a grade A douche.

scarr

The friend group (‘the liars’) are all 16, and the flashbacks are from when they were 13-15. These men that are pursuing them or whatever are all in their 20s, at least. It’s creepy, and the girls aren’t to blame. I know we are used to adults playing high schoolers in tv shows (especially back then), so sometimes the age gaps and inappropriate relationships are not fully noticed because the actors look similar in age, but for some perspective, Alison’s actress in season 1 is 13 years old.

Cole

The way you're rolling your eyes at Aria and Ezra in this ep 😂Me too, Travis...Me too..🙄

Gehazi Whitehurst

It's so funny, I haven't seen the beginning of this show in years. And now to see someone else experience the show for the first time through fresh eyes...I'm like damn why was I watching this at 13 years old😂

Gehazi Whitehurst

the start of the A outros!!!

Jaylen A

Watching this when I was younger, I was the biggest Ezria shipper. Now I obviously see how problematic that relationship is, that said, I find it more enjoyable to ignore how gross it is, and just go with it lmao (with the caveat that this is a fictional show, irl I would not ignore it)

Calla Johnston

i was gonna say hanna eats but that's probably not appropriate so i will say hanna slays

Cassandra Ryan

Just straight trolling them girls , nasty work 😂

Pearltheodora Rose

23 years old , I think that’s the one thing about this show that gets me , the blame games the characters play .

Pearltheodora Rose

yeah he's in med school so he's like 22 at the youngest, maybe even older

Gracie

Yeah, nah. There's no situation where Spencer should just say 'f** it' and get with Wren. She's a minor and he's a grown adult. It's kind of concerning how easily that's forgotten. They're all minors. Allison specifically - her actress (Sasha Pieterse) was 12 when the pilot was filmed, and 13 during s1. So any kind of attraction between her and the male characters is beyond messed up, considering they're all played by adult actors.

kalindiinga28

At the end of the day Spencer’s is a minor , so wren is definitely the nasty one, this is getting so good, season 1 is definitely bringing back so many memories for me !!! TOBY !!! 👀 I forgot this episode was his introduction

Pearltheodora Rose

Lol the rational part of me knows that he's spoiling us, but I REALLY need the next ep 5 min after the last one. I'm due for a rewatch of PLL, and doing with Travis is awesome!

MamaSeesa

Yeah I'm 100% on Sean's side. If he doesn't want to, whatever the reason, Hanna should've respected that. If we're upset about Ben pushing Emily to get frisky when she clearly doesn't want to, we need to be upset with Hanna for pushing Sean. Different reasons for Emily and Sean not wanting it, sure, but they're both allowed the choice.

MamaSeesa

You’re spoiling us with this upload speed 😭🥰

CharlieE

“heads up bffs it’s open season on liars and i’m hunting”!!??😭 A is so nasty with it lmaoo

Alicia Cue

period coming back when i have food

Azaria


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