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Episode #708 - Blade Runner (The Final Cut, W❤️M)

“He looks like a 1980’s standup comedian!” - Andrew on Deckard’s clothing

On this week’s episode, W❤️M month takes us to 2019 Los Angeles to chat about Royal Rid’s magnificent science fiction classic, Blade Runner! How stunning is the confidence of this film? Was Rutger Hauer ever better in a role? Is there a weirder coat in cinema than the one James Hong sports in this? How creepy are William Sanderson’s eerie toy “friends”? Who would’t want to administer the Voight-Kampff Test on someone? And should George Lucas take a look at this Final Cut to see how you can actually make a decent “special edition” of your movie? PLUS: M. Emmet Walsh’s character Bryant turns out to be a porno parody enthusiast!

Blade Runner stars Harrison Ford, Rutger Hauer, Sean Young, Edward James Olmos, M. Emmet Walsh, Daryl Hannah, William Sanderson, Joe Turkel, Joanna Cassidy, James Hong, and Brion James as Leon; directed by Ridley Scott.

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Episode #708 - Blade Runner (The Final Cut, W❤️M)

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Snow Village is what you’re describing at the beginning of the episode :) There’s also Dickens Village but that’s a separate collection (same idea though)

Erin Fitterer

I had only seen theatrical and director's cut before and I just watched the Final Cut last week. I have to respectfully disagree on the narration. I was kinda lukewarm on this movie over the years. But, having been really blown away by how much the movie just asks you to sit and be with what it's showing you in the Final Cut, I feel like that narration is total trash. And the omission of the unicorn in the theatrical you saw makes the ending origami just flat-out not make sense at all. IMO the theatrical version completely subverts what the film is trying to do. The director's cut ending is better, but it's not really there yet either

Smaug

Yeah, I know, right? She was just on a Netflix special doing standup.

Catboyslim

I don’t mind the voice over, I saw it as a little kid and was expecting something Star Wars like because HF was starring. I needed the explanation, or I would of been totally lost. Critics canned this movie when it first came out. I couldn’t forget the movie’s haunting beauty and would rent it over and over later as a teenager when ever I’d have the use of a VCR. Later I saw a link between the replicants and gay culture during the AIDS crisis. Young people dying in their prime, being treated less then human, as if soulless. You can’t find any Neo-Noir better than this. City speak is the language Gaff is speaking, a mix of German, Spanish, and Chinese.

Catboyslim

There's so much classic Hollywood noir in this. Not only does Sean Young look like Mary Astor from The Maltese Falcon, Tyrell's office is decorated with bird statues and an artificial owl. And Ford's nerd voice has got to be a nod to Bogart's bookstore ruse in The Big Sleep.

CJ SWANSON

Joe Turkel is also an MST3K alum. He was the beatnik boat captain who tries to blackmail Tom Stewart in Tormented.

CJ SWANSON

Perfect timing considering the news today of the release of the "Blade Runner" from prison. Wait, this isn't a true crime pod and this is actually about a movie?

Ray

M. Emmett Walsh would reprise his role as "killer pervert (??)" 2 years later in Blood Simple.

Tim O'Connor

This is one of those movies that actually got my Dad trying to discuss film with me from time to time, not that I knew dick about film in my teens (or now.) Thoughtful sci-fi was his jam, though you wouldn't know it on a normal day.

MarkNM

I HATE the notion that Deckard is a replicant. It completely undermines the ending where an artificial human has more humanity than an actual human. Also, all the human characters are referred to by their last name and Replicants by their first. P.s Replicants are NOT robots. They’re bioengineered humanoids.

Ben Rama

All these years listening to WHM and I'm still not tired of you guys. 😂 Thanks for the laughs

Clever Girl

Marsha Warfield is not dead.

Clever Girl

Kneel for wlm, stand for whm

Tru$tn01

I just watched the original Battle Star Galactica pilot/movie and in a scene the Cylons are described something like cyborgs that slowly removed any trace of appearing human and became full on immortal robots. Also the scared the Hell out of me as a kid.

Aaron

This was released the same day as John Carpenter's The Thing, and it's always fascinating to compare where Scott and Carpenter went after two big commercial disappointments. Carpenter kept churning out work that bolstered his standing as one of the great American directors, but Scott veered sharper into more commercial, studio-approved territory, and while he had his share of success, his stature among cinephiles is a lot dimmer due to a lot of his post Blade Runner work being mediocre-to-bad. I would love to see Scott take on something riskier or even create something as lively as Alien or Blade Runner because if Carpenter could make magic with small budgets, there's no reason Scott can't at this point in his career. Even something as idiosyncratic as The Counselor would make me happy.

Z

Omg thank you for ranting about people FaceTiming in public. ESPECIALLY while walking down the street. Wtf is that

Albert C

Loved this. Although i prefer the other version where Deckard isnt a replicant (not the theatrical one). I just liked the concept that the replicants are more human and behave more human than then the person sent to gun them down without mercy.

Matthew Lloyd

The MST3K story could’ve been me, I recorded them onto vhs from the sci fi channel, then carefully transferred them to dvd when I got a dvd burner, painstakingly labeled them. I did buy the ones I could but I still have a lot of my burned ones - my favorite is Horror of Party Beach!!

Jaime Lee Ezell

Absolutely! It's so beautiful and so powerful. I could be wrong, but I believe it was improvised, or at least the "like tears in rain" line?

Zora McBride

Yees! One of my favorite movies done by my favorite (along with TJ Hooker of course) podcast! I can't wait to hear y'all have fun with this but also offer your interpretations. My girlfriend and I will be giving this a listen shortly! Happy genocide-remembrance day and don't forget to wear the blue!

Zora McBride

facetime/newer gen being addicted to phones is all facts. I'm seeing it with my nephews....I've never liked FT/video calls, or being on my phone in general. I'm good for checking a couple texts and not buried in the screen...but I'm also part of the gang's gen where we didn't have cell phones for a good portion of life

Frank Grimes

It would be a W ❤️ M for sure. - Andrew

We Hate Movies

The big missing MST3K episodes, for me at least, are the Godzilla episodes. Those are great and they briefly had the DVD right but then lost them. Also “Reese’s pieces muncher” sounds like a secret slur for someone your drunk uncle tells you about at Thanksgiving

Dan sulin

I was lucky enough to see the final cut theatrically at the Cinerama in Seattle when it was first released. Easily one of the best film experiences of my life 🦄

TDB

Love this movie so much. I’m old enough that I saw the theatrical cut in a cinema several times and I watched it so many times it doesn’t matter which cut I watch I still hear the voiceover

Justin Shaw

Hey gang, is there a chance that you would do Blade Runner 2049 at some point, and if so, would be it WHM or WLM? My unsolicited opinion is that it should be WLM, but I'm more interested in what others think.

Dominic Kovell

Hauer's final monologue is still, for my money, one of cinema's finest moments. It's just barely 50 seconds flat from beginning to end, but the way he delivers it makes it feel like an eternity.

John Edwards

Ah yes, Regarding Henry, written by a young J.J. Abrams. Talk about a guy who would fail the Voight-Kampff Test,,,,,

CharlesGrodin'sToupee

Every time the guys said Deckert, all I could see in my head is Decker: Port of Call Hawaii.

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