Jumpgate #24 - Points of Departure

Whoa! I never noticed that! That's super clever of JMS.

Conrad

I was taking a myth class and reading a translated version so I might have been primed to notice when during Endgame that the ships on Clarke's side were all Trojan or gods on the Trojan side and reverse for B5 and their alliance as Greek including the Agamemnon.

Julian

Haha, she will soon I'm sure haha

Jessie Earl

Its a joy to make too

Jessie Earl

<3

Jessie Earl

Fair

Jessie Earl

Haha, I liked Sheridan, but mostly off of Bruce B's performance

Jessie Earl

Yeah... he exists

Jessie Earl

Keffer was a thing

Jessie Earl

haha that makes me feel a lot better haha

Jessie Earl

Haha, I didn't mean to say that if I did

Jessie Earl

Ohhhh no I didn't remember that!

Jessie Earl

I’m surprised that Vera hasn’t called Sheridan a dork yet. I was looking forward to adding to my list of “things I’ve heard early season 2 Sheridan described as”. The list currently includes “Golden Retriever” (Claudia Christian), Twink (Bruce B, don’t make me spell his last name, and “youth pastor” (my mom).

I love this podcast I'm always waiting for the next episode

I think you're unfairly lumping him and I encourage you to give him a chance. It could be the second season would have gotten that much better without him. But he seems to have brought something to the show that was missing in the first season. From my personal experience having watched the series before.

Julian

AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! THAT IS SO AWESOME!!! Cannot wait to watch when I get home <3

Jessica Luchesi

Apparently, Ol' Brucey-B is one of my girlfriend's dad's buddies. He's in his phone as "Bruce Nukem" which is pretty cool.

Andrew Michael

It doesn't strike me as odd that Dr. Franklin knows Garibaldi was agnostic. I've always assumed that everyone's religion, or lack thereof, was in their file.

Becky Sparks

I'm looking forward to possibly being convinced of Sheridan's okayness, because I didn't like him from minute one, and I have not really warmed to him on rewatch. I don't HATE him, I just have a low-level side-eye sort-of dislike of him. I can't tell if I'm unfairly maligning him because of my knee-jerk distaste for mediocre straight white dudes being in charge and cast as heroic (not saying he's necessarily mediocre... I think? ... but that I worry I'm unfairly lumping him in that category), and I hope this podcast will give me some insight on why he might be more okay than I currently feel he is. (Seconding that the best ship names are in Iain Banks's Culture novels, I was typing this out even as that part of the conversation unfolded.)

Ghosts And You Might Die

Ah, Keffer. Allegedly the actor was such a prick that JMS decided to just off the character. XD

North

I‘m starting another rewatch now that you guys have reached season 2. I can‘t wait to hear how Vera reacts to it all. As for Keffer, I keep forgetting that he was even in the show 🤣, can‘t say he left much of an impression.

DP_Dwarf

Don't worry about getting the name wrong, Jessie. There is a blooper of Bruce Boxleitner getting it wrong (saying Sinclair instead of Sheridan) - in a complex scene with a ton of cast members and extras :)

Lofwyr

Right?! It's not a recent thing, either. We hated him IN the 90s.

Becky Sparks

You're brilliant, but why in Valen's name did you tell Vera the fans love Keffer?? We all HATE the silly bitch. 😆😆 Even JMS hates him 'cos the character was a network demand.

Lucy Ritchie

Are you going to give Vera a heads up for the Iliad Easter egg in season 4 in regards to the ship names?

Julian