Let's Discuss Hunter Schafer's Transmedicalism

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Jessie Earl

Should be good now

Jessie Earl

Strange, should be good now

Jessie Earl

This is just one study. There are many many that look at many different genes in different ways. All of them find genetic, and neurological differences between transgender people and cisgender people. Also they do tend to sort based on age, sexual orientation, geographic location etc. For many reasons. Mainly to control for confounding variables. This one study found that at least some transgender people are genetically different from most cisgender people. Clear as the Earth being round.

Hontas Farmer

I think one of the main take aways is the cis gatekeepers of the system being the problem. The very foundation of how we think about transness is backwards from the outset because of the culture at large which has been influeced because of the theology that has influenced it. It's almost like trying to make progress, within that deeper paradigm that ultimately only benefits the keepers, as a lost cause. It's time I think to process our expression as a species through much wider eyes. Eyes that we no doubt had access to in much earlier times.

Did Youtube slap you for this video? It says I can't watch it because it's private. You've angered the video gods again, haven't you, Jessie?

Alathe

Is this post generally private? I can't watch the video because it says so. :(

Iooked at Fernandez et al 2018, and it's quite interesting. I'd caution against two possible interpretations that don't follow (1) that all trans people have these genetic variations (first they did not look at femme attracted mtf or masc attracted ftm, or at later transitioners, second I have to read more carefully, but while the differences seemed highly significant statisticaly, there was variation within the groups (some trans ppl didn't have the genes and some cis ppl did). (2) that people without these gene variants cannot be trans. (this follows from the fact that some mtf did not have the interaction gene variants of ER and AR, and some mtf didn't have the variants associated with trans people.

Hope Jasentuliyana

I must take exception. The belief that the cause of being transgender is rooted in some neuropsychological phenomenon is not merely a point of view. There are peer reviewed, published science studies, including DNA studies that show that transgender people are genetically distinct from cisgender people. Rather than flood this comment with the links I gathered a bunch of them together "Genetic Causation of Transgender Neruobiological Identity, An Annotated Bibliography. . Authorea. January 24, 2022. DOI: 10.22541/au.164303998.80261664/v1 https://doi.org/10.22541/au.164303998.80261664/v1 " Here's a good one. Fernández, Rosa ; Guillamon, Antonio et al Molecular basis of Gender Dysphoria: androgen and estrogen receptor interaction2018 Psychoneuroendocrinology , Vol. 98 p. 161-167 https://doi.org/10.1038/s41598-019-53500-y (Fernández 2018) https://doi.org/10.1038/s41598-019-53500-y Results: Our data show that specific allele and genotype combinations of ERβ, ERα and AR are implicated in the genetic basis of transsexualism, and that MtF gender development requires AR, which must be accompanied by ERβ . An inverse allele interaction between ERβ and AR is characteristic of the MtF population: when either of these polymorphisms is short, the other is long. ERβ and ERα are also associated with transsexualism in the FtM population although there was no interaction between the polymorphisms. Our data show that ERβ plays a key role in the typical brain differentiation of humans. There are numerous studies like this.

Hontas Farmer

As one who has been called a transmed by people who only knew I was a medically transitioned and binary transwoman (now at least I ID'd as Enby for a time). I think it can come from the shitty ideas quite a few Enby's have. Not all by any means.

Hontas Farmer

I don't normally lean into conspiracy theories, especially when the easy answer is much more likely... and I definitely know that people sometimes have shitty takes all on their own. ALL THAT SAID, I can definitely see GC types buttering her up with the "oh you're one of 'the good ones'" shit - after all, she's passing, pretty, and popular (especially among younger people) and I can definitely imagine them thinking (and apparently succeeding 🤔) it would be easier to turn her to their side than to turn cis fans against her. Of course the "pick me" stuff never turns out to your advantage, just ask Niemoller. In the end, it's probably not a conspiracy, she just has some really shitty ideas.

Vince Whitacre