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PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): Women should communicate specifics

Just letting everyone know, Christine Grace Smith will be joining us in the format on Patreon for the whole month of July. Hope you enjoy this monthly special!

PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): Women should communicate specifics

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@Joseph Could be that she is more laid-back in these reaction videos. I think that is part of it personally - and I think she might be wearing less make-up as well. Just more exposure has helped too no doubt. I don’t an issue with the size of her nose so much as the shape.

RhodiumMaiden

@RhodiumMaiden - Strange. She is still doing the very same "reaction videos", but just in Alexander's territory and with his explicit blessing. And ... her nose is still the same size ... 😉

Joseph Omega

@RhodiumMaiden - Well, an EXAGGERATION at any rate. ☺️

Joseph Omega

@E C - You don't like to open up to men because they refuse to be "mindlessly kind" to you when you relentlessly complain about the "nail in your forehead"? Or was that just a rhetorical question? As I said, there appears to be a VAST array of things right now to which women suffer "discomfort", and to which traditionally men have had to "walk it off". You KNOW this, as you have called it "stoic strength", and you have previously admitted to be INTRINSICALLY attracted to it. We also had a deal for you, in turn, to be "adorable" (as opposed to just "bratty" or petulant). I THINK you appreciate my honesty and directness. PS. And I read all YOUR messages as well, and refuse (for your sake) to relinquish my commitment to challenge each and every one of them, because you CLAIM to be here to learn. You're welcome. 🙏 PPS. You didn't have to ASK for "special treatment", as you have long traditionally been GIVEN it without even having to THINK about it. Rather than continuing to pretend it does not exist, nor gaslighting that it does not matter, women should just get over their inherent unearned privilege that men have FREELY granted them -- men long have.

Joseph Omega

@E C - You are on a journey to "decentralize men"? What does that mean? Doesn't sound too friendly, nor too noble. As I implied before, the terms "abuse" and "toxic" have largely been bastardized as a direct result of the (perhaps understandably) overly sensitive Matriarchal and Misandric Feminist movement. I get the impression that keeping the meanings deliberately ambiguous and conflated between the physical and the mental, women appear to hope to gaslight their way into perpetuating victimhood and legitimizing a lack of accountability and responsibility. The final three sentences of your last post seems illustrative of this (possibly unconscious) technique.

Joseph Omega

@E C - I believe I asked this elsewhere, but what exactly constitutes the "abuse" so commonly used these days? Raising his voice to you? Bringing up past mistakes? Is "call me out of my name" a typo? "Many" women have WHICH of these stories? Are you specifically referring to "paying for him" or "giving him money"? I've never before heard about the "4B movement": Sounds like an Incel or MGTOW for women, or the more Misandrous wing of mainstream Feminism? Supporting that movement makes your offhand comment that "women are toxic too" sound very tongue-in-cheek. How are women "toxic" (again a much overused and under-explained expression). Then "we were both abusive" throws another wrench in my understanding. He showed you the real meaning of WHOSE hate, HIS or YOURS? Unfortunately the natural stoic and skeptic in me needs to acknowledge that distortions, exaggerations, selective storytelling and gaslighting are well known traits evolutionarily well honed by the more physically dependent (yet ostensibly more emotionally and socially adept) sex.

Joseph Omega

@E C - I've often heard this term "toxic" in relation to men (the "they" who do that?). Can you elaborate on the meaning such that it does not apply just as easily to women?

Joseph Omega

I wasn’t replying to you, but I am very glad to hear that! Though my perception of your current relationship has always been that it seems quite healthy, just so you know.

RhodiumMaiden

My mom did the same - it sucks! Congrats on self development.

RhodiumMaiden

Never is a big exaggeration.

RhodiumMaiden

Or we just want validation + empathy/sympathy. That’s what I like when I’m upset. I don’t want flattery.

RhodiumMaiden

@Joseph I find her much more tolerable here vs in her YT vids.

RhodiumMaiden

I absolutely find men to be better communicators in general! I only had issues with a partner who refused to talk about anything that upset him, & a guy I dated who gaslighted me so that never went anywhere.

RhodiumMaiden

@Eric Linden - Certainly holds true for the GYNOCENTRIC parts of the culture, but they are not known for their commitment to honor or reality.

Joseph Omega

I had a wildly emotional mother who did a lot of the things mentioned in the video. "I feel like you're doing x" - " What do you mean what did I do?" "Well you're just always x" " ok, if I always do it can you name an example?" No, there is no example, she just feels like I do it, I didn't actually do it. I decided well clearly emotions are just vaporware, don't really exist. My only defense was logic and reality. But as such I also repressed my own emotions , which caused me a lot of issues. Like you can't will yourself to sleep, you can only go to sleep if you feel like it. So I couldn't sleep. Which caused me health issues. I've had to relearn a lot of things babies can do from day 1. Basically the opposite of the adults in the video who behaved like toddlers. The ideal state of being is an awareness and mastery of your emotions.

castirondude

@Matt Scoggins - It certainly is tempting to think so, but because the contention may be SOOO ubiquitous in my opinion, such pre-screening may return very few viable candidates. Seems best to first see if they are self-aware suifficient to consider their own implied Misandry suggested by this perception.

Joseph Omega

IMO if they react that way = low quality and not worth the relationship.

Matt Scoggins

@Matt Scoggins - I've observed that this may often be too simplistic a solution, as it may be in a woman's interest and temperament to believe that you should somehow already KNOW which approach she requires, or that asking such a "stupid" (or insulting) question just reinforces her opinion of you (and men) as "emotionally unintelligent".

Joseph Omega

I've heard that before too and have used it. It was appreciated.

David Anon

I saw a great piece of advice for men once, where to facilitate good communication, if a partner is telling you a problematic story, ask her if she wants solutions or wants to vent. Provide solutions if she says that's what she wants, or listen if she's just venting.

Matt Scoggins

Women will never communicate specifics unless it is a very unusual circumstance. It goes against their biology, unfortunately.

Kent Johnson

I agree 💯

Joseph Omega

@Eric Linden - Agree 💯

Joseph Omega

@Mark Bryski - I perfectly agree: Most women tend to complain about men's "inferior communication skills" as part of a general GASLIGHTING of men that seems QUITE common to their gender -- if she keeps him offbalance with such (often relentless) pre-emtive accusations, the hope is that he would be too busy defending himself to recognize the Projection, Displacement and Deflection. I believe this is all part of the arsenal of evolved "Neotenic" strategies designed to counter the physical power imbalance between the sexes -- young children (of either gender) also practice this strategy for the very same reason. As such, I would not really call it a "low quality characteristic", unless no effort whatsoever is made by the woman to recognize and mitigate against it. I also agree with your implied observation that men possess superior "Emotional Intelligence" skills, insofar as "self-awareness" and "self-regulation" is concerned. This time, it is the (Feminist influenced) CULTURE itself that is gaslighting males in general, by making them believe that women's probable superior "Interpersonal Intelligence" skills extends inwards to themselves: The totality of "Emotional Intelligence" involves not only recognizing and influencing the emotions of OTHERS, but understanding and regulating one's OWN emotions. It is the former part that aligns with the core of "Interpersonal Intelligence". Finally, your "Circle of Security Parenting" attributes capture the essence of "being with your child", and may help explain why single fathers have better child-rearing outcomes than single mothers. "Wait till your father gets home" highlights women's innate knowledge of the effectiveness of paternal intervention, and is normally unavailable to single mothers.

Joseph Omega

@Eric Linden - Your wife may be unique, but ironically, women, more often than not, just COMPLAIN about their advice not being taken -- yet another "nail in the head" for which no actual "solution" is required: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4EDhdAHrOg (reposted for anyone here still unfamiliar with this clever vignette).

Joseph Omega

Your approach to children works for young children, but will fail when they become teenagers. Men approach raising children more hands off, women more (too much in my opinion) hands on. Children need more hands on when young, more hands off when older. One thing where women really suck as parents is knowing when to sparingly reapply the hands on to teenagers. Men get this wrong sometimes, but get it right more often than not. Teenagers really need that male role model.

Eric Linden

Women have the same problem with other women. My wife is always telling me her female friends won’t listen to her solutions or take her advice.

Eric Linden

First of all, any complaint about “men’s” communication skills is simply a shaming tactic and a low quality characteristic. In my opinion, women rely heavily on men’s communication skills and emotional intelligence. In order to elaborate, allow me to share from Circle of Security Parenting. Circle of Security Parenting is about providing your child a Safe Haven when they arrive to you and a Secure Base when they go out to explore. To accomplish this, a parent will: 1.Welcome “my coming to you” 2.Protect 3.Comfort 4.Delight in the child 5.Organize feelings 6.Support exploration 7.Watch over 8.Help 9.Enjoy with All of these functions are considered to be “being with” the child. When helping a child deal with trauma, a parent needs to “be with” the child at least 30% of the time and perform at least 1,000 “being with” connections. These are insane numbers and children can appear insatiable when helping them deal with their trauma debt. I believe many women rely on men to help them through their trauma debt. For some, their trauma debt is so severe, they are demanding, insatiable, and irrational when it comes to seeking support from their partner. When they are disappointed about how their high needs are not being met, it is easier and less painful to point the finger at their partner’s communication skills as the reason for their dysfunction than acknowledge their high needs are the source of their dysfunction. One final note. When helping a child deal with dysregulation because they have not resolved past trauma, the child needs you to help them organize their feelings. Consequences doesn’t do a fucking a thing for the child in these moments. All it does is make the parent believe they are doing something about the problem.

Mark Bryski

I had always wondered why simply talking about problems without seeking out a solution is therapeutic for women. I've since reckoned that it's not so much women want to communicate or solve problems as they want validation for their emotions and circumstances. Their aim is, of course, to appear ultimately as the "brave and stunning" heroine of their story. This is accomplished through the much embellished and reproduced narration of their personal account, all prosecuted under the guise of "communication." The validation they seek comes in the form of "atta girl!", "you are so right to feel this way" and/or "they are so wrong." Anything else would be viewed with disdain and contempt, or in the case of the above clip, met with a tantrum.

Hyperion

That women are great communicators is a fallacy. Emoting per se is but one out of many means of communication; the fact that men have more control of their emotions while communicating does not make men inferior communicators, but, I dare say, better and more effective. The best communicators -- orators, debaters, pundits, academics, comedians -- are overwhelmingly men. The single biggest problem with communication is the illusion that it has taken place.

Hyperion

I hope she soon grows sufficient to outgrow Pearl.

Joseph Omega

CGS for a whole month, eh? I see CGS as the baby red pill, and AG as the grown up red pill. She mostly agrees with other red pillers, including AG, and voices a lot of red pill truths most of us agree with. AG does that, but he also gives us some of the Why and some solutions. And occasionally he strongly disagrees with some red pill orthodoxy. CGS is new, and her channel has grown quickly in subscribers due in part to her association with Pearl and her network. She mostly does reaction videos; but AG started out only doing college girl interviews, so I see her potential. Let’s see how I feel after a month.

Eric Linden

"Establish if there is a self awareness" - absolute gold. Absolute fudging gold.

Anthony White

I currently have a boss that is a good communicator. But it seems in general that male bosses are better communicators than female bosses. And that affects everyone at a workplace.

Eric Linden

It strikes me as PROFOUND naiveté to think that "Neoteny" in human females does not extend to the PSYCHOLOGICAL as much as it does the PHYSICAL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoteny_in_humans

Joseph Omega

I view most women, despite their credentials or careers, to be like children looking for a daddy to provide and protect. So, they behave like children.

Roger Hayden

Once again, the culture gets it wrong. If the culture says it’s bad, it’s good. If the culture says it’s good, it’s bad.

Eric Linden


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