Got a question about Edd Straw's Brazil F1 driver rankings?
Added 2024-11-04 16:06:36 +0000 UTCNew feature time! This week we're letting you put your questions, comments (and conspiracy theories π) to Edd Straw about his Brazilian GP F1 driver rankings.
As those of you who visit our F1 podcast community group here on Patreon will have seen, Edd is going to go through your comments (post them below!) in a video that we will release exclusively on this platform.
So head to our website to check out his full rankings from Interlagos, then drop anything you want to put to Edd about his list as a comment on this post.
You can find the full article here: https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/edd-straw-2024-f1-brazilian-grand-prix-driver-rankings/
Comments
Edd, in the current rankings format what has been the largest discrepancy between ranking position and finishing position that you have awarded? Do you stand by that ranking looking back on it?
Chris Parrott
2024-11-05 11:25:59 +0000 UTCHi Edd, this season specifically seems harder than ever to know what the baseline of competition truly is. Even the teams themselves are not always sure why they're faster or slower from one weekend to the next, and any predictability is often short lived. Given that part of the rankings is based on how much a driver extracted out of their machinery, have you found this year especially difficult to write the rankings for?
Steve D
2024-11-05 10:38:23 +0000 UTCAlternatively: depending on how experience in f1 factors into the rankings - how did experience play into Stroll and Colapinto's ratings (given their outcomes in the GP).
Stranded_Colourwork
2024-11-05 10:18:07 +0000 UTCReally Looking forward to this podcast series, thank you for trying it out! I hope it's okay if I start it off with a longer comment, if it turns out you are as overwhelmed with questions for this as you usually are for the Post-Race pods, then I'll promise to keep it much shorter next time ;) I know it's tough to put in numbers but broadly speaking, how do you weigh race-performances compared to the rest of the weekend? How far do crucial race mistakes drop a driver who had an otherwise very good weekend and how much can a great race make up for bad qualifying sessions or FP-mistakes? How much do you factor in expectations and/or experience? Especially in a race like the one we just had, shouldn't the bar be higher for the likes of Perez, Sainz or Bottas than it is for Lawson, Bearman or Colapinto? This is something that sometimes bothers me a bit in the more conventional races. Experienced drivers in good machinery who finish at the low end of what their car is capable of often still get pretty decent rankings compared to drivers in weaker machineries who had anonymous races in the midfield. Shouldn't we expect more from the proven drivers in better cars, or is it a concious decision not to look at it that way? Ans lastly, about the rankings themselves: As a fellow German, I probably have a bit of a pro-HΓΌlkenberg bias, but I actually think you rated him a bit too generously in this one. This could have been a huge opportunity for the Haas-team, but he had such a messy weekend overall and didn't capitalize on any of the opportunities, which might prove very costly in the Standings. As one of the most experienced drivers on the grid he deserves more criticism for that than Bearman or some of the other young drivers, even if he didn't bin it spectacularly as some others did. I also think Perez is too high, I guess we have all gotten kinda used to his poor performances by now, but that shouldn't give him a pass in the rankings. He somehow finished right around where Bearman did, despite the latter being a rookie, with a worse car, who had a super messy and mistake-ridden race. Perez also finished behind Hamilton, who absoluted hated this weekend.
David Trippler
2024-11-04 23:14:55 +0000 UTCHow much do you grade on a curve based on experience? Given poor races from experienced drivers like Perez and Hsmilton outscored Bearman and Colapinto who havent driven in the wet in F1, I assume this has no impact.
Adam Barton
2024-11-04 22:28:05 +0000 UTCSimilar question to Simon ... Where do you start? Do you pick who you think is the worse (or best) driver, and use that as the baseline? I also imagine you would have several iterations of the list. Do you ever find significant changes between the initial draft and the final selection? If so, can you think of an example?
Michael Holden
2024-11-04 20:40:49 +0000 UTCEdd going forward are you required to handicap all British drivers with a minus score before the weekend to ensure your subconscious British bias doesn't hamper Verstappens final scoring, irrespective of how he performed?
Ben K
2024-11-04 19:26:45 +0000 UTCAre the rankings done in isolation or do you compare to what driver's team mates managed in the same/similar machinery. Feel Perez's weekend is lucky to be 12th or was Max going to make anyone look average? After binning it in qualfying, his mechanics fix the car just for a dozy drive in to the gravel, Stroll feels too high at even 19
Thomas Knights
2024-11-04 17:59:41 +0000 UTCHow do you compare Zhou to those that finished ahead of him? I know Bearman had a scrappy race, but he still managed to bring it home in 12th. For this reason I find it hard to put Zhou ahead of him, who was last of the finishers.
Michael Grayless
2024-11-04 17:27:49 +0000 UTCHow do you actually do a driver rankings - is it start somewhere and work out who's better or worse until you're happy? Or something more esoteric?
Simon Emms
2024-11-04 17:02:48 +0000 UTCCame here to say this
Gavin Cameron @ the_loft_workshop
2024-11-04 17:01:57 +0000 UTCHow was navigating Alonso's power ranking, given his radio message about the mechanics?
Stranded_Colourwork
2024-11-04 16:50:29 +0000 UTCIs it possible to give Stroll a negative ranking? Because going off is one thing, but driving straight into the gravel...
Mies
2024-11-04 16:11:52 +0000 UTCHaha - Edd apologised a few times for how long it was taking him to file it, and we kept telling him we understood why!
The Race
2024-11-04 16:11:16 +0000 UTCThis weekend must have been such a mammoth task i thought the rankings article might be in two installments!
OC
2024-11-04 16:09:41 +0000 UTC
