Omg best pod ever that story about Jordans godfather was amazing. Also sun drenched dread sounds so good mislav, thought it sounded like nirvana vocals
meow meow
2023-09-07 08:36:48 +0000 UTC
this is wild. you boys are young as fuck, you're only 33?!
I've just turned 31, & have been elected construction union delegate for rail projects in victoria. i feel like it's a huge responsibility for someone as young me. May be the arts industry you boys are in?
Mick Ricardo
2023-07-24 06:12:59 +0000 UTC
So much for not a deep episode...existential dread is real with these two...
The fuckin Petterson impersonation kills me 🤣
Darien M
2023-06-22 06:08:25 +0000 UTC
I know this is probably a bit late, but I guess it is really interesting listening to that last part on what we want to give back. I am still young, but I know I want to write / direct stories (film, games, TV etc). But I just struggle the most with exactly what I want to tell / share. I guess for me it's Christianity, because as you say that is really what saves me from myself for lack of a better term. So being able to tell that personal story of how Christianity and God can effect us on an interpersonal and interior level is I guess my very vague want to share with people.
Lachlan Hall
2023-06-22 00:33:25 +0000 UTC
Fantastically said :)
Pierre Lucrierre
2023-06-21 11:44:02 +0000 UTC
Alright, I just finished this episode. In response to Mislav's last question and some of his fears of growing old. Probs more of a concern, but here's my 2 cents.
Firstly. What on earth makes you think 33 is old? Yes, your 20's does feel like the world is your oyster BUT you don't have the life experience or skills to see that through. 30+ is your oyster.
By this time you have seen how the world works and what you want from it. You don't need to fall into traditional western norms because you have confidence to change.
Our parents lived very different lives with extremely different expectations.
There is still time. I changed careers after 24 years.
Look it's easy for me to say don't get bogged down in the pit of time running out because at your age I did feel the same. I think we all do.
My ex had left me after 7 years in epic fashion (the world's #1 ghosting expert) and I thought it was over. It's not. I loved turning 30 because for once it was about me being in my own skin and not worrying about whether I'm in a picket fence house with 2.5 kids and a relationship with someone that is purely held together by others expectations.
I thought at 16, turning 20 would be the death of me. Now I am happy with my age and the confidence it has given me to change paths.
You'll listen to this in your 40's and have a proper good laff.
Be kind to yourself. It's not a race xxx
Megan Elphinstone
2023-06-18 00:55:16 +0000 UTC
Bout fuckin time
Lucas Sherriff
2023-06-17 17:34:05 +0000 UTC
You're old 🤣
We had to TYPE ringtones into our Nokia 5110 🤯
HAHAHAHAHA ALSO - James Kerley accepted my LINKEDIN invitation 🤣🤣🤣
Now I am getting more real estate agents adding me lolll
Megan Elphinstone
2023-06-17 07:18:28 +0000 UTC
At 30 I’m happier with my direction in life than I ever was at 18 or 20. I’ve changed jobs a bunch but I’ve learned something from every job I’ve had that I can use in the future. I also realised life’s too short to work a shitty job that makes you unhappy so I left that one and figured out what I really want, which I’m now working towards and have no regrets!
Also, there’s definitely a unique pressure that creative types feel to follow their passion, while also needing to get a job to get money to then be able to follow those passions. But often it leads to burnout from the job and then no energy to be creative and then we feel miserable and like we’re wasting our life. Finding that balance of doing something creatively satisfying and also making enough money to live off is hard.
Something I started doing recently that has helped is to set aside a few evenings a week to just be creative. Could be music, writing, editing, and I don’t worry about any other jobs etc. I just give myself that time to work on whatever I’m feeling. Sometimes nothing much comes from it but at least I’m giving myself that space to connect with my creativity, and often it’s here that I get more ideas for projects that I wouldn’t have had otherwise.
Grace Frick
2023-06-17 03:55:50 +0000 UTC
My life changed for the better after greatly reducing my caffeine consumption. You don't need to drop it completely. There's still lots of positives from it. But keep it to the morning, preferably at least an hour after you wake to avoid afternoon crashes. And reduce the amount you consume in that window.
Do it over 2-4 weeks and it'll be smooth sailing
Minh
2023-06-17 00:26:27 +0000 UTC
Boys - I'm about to turn 50 (September) & I can't really get my head around it because I don't feel 50. I don't even feel 40. In some ways, I have returned to a kind of 'the world is my oyster' mindset because I longer give a shit what people think of me. I no longer care about being a part of a group. I have, in the past 5 years, developed a voracious curiosity about different topics and subjects. I'm reading more now than I ever have and I'm tackling subjects that I never would have give any thought to 30 years ago. I'm wrestling with ideas about religion and theology I would have been too embarrassed to admit to exploring when I was younger. Part of that I can credit to the emergence of Jordan Peterson. Part of it, I can credit to you guys.
Jordan, you are one of the most deep thinkers I have ever encountered and you fascinate me with the profundity of your intellect.
Mislav, believe it or not, have a wisdom far beyond your years and you do actually have a positive mindset that you give out to the world. You're dedicated musically and you're fucking loyal to Jordan and his enterprise. You deserve all the good things.
Ali, you are also a deep thinker, a worldy intellect from whom I can learn so much about the world and human nature and the political animal.
Boys, believe it or not, you have a lot to look forward to. I think you will arrive at a state of grace sometime in the near future and you will thrive because of it.
All I can say is thank you.
Dean from Adelaide.
Dean
2023-06-16 22:38:15 +0000 UTC
Great pod!
Lachlan Alexander
2023-06-16 14:53:17 +0000 UTC
Boys what a poignant yet beautiful pod. I just turned 20 and feel so grateful to hear this advice now, especially mislavs sentiment of be proud of your failures.
wolf
2023-06-16 13:22:11 +0000 UTC
woof
loomhigh
2023-06-16 12:57:14 +0000 UTC
I think its something Jordan said many Shanks videos ago where you need to pick and choose how much Western Self Help and How much Eastern Self Help to internalize at any given time. There are moments in your life where you need to harvest contentment with how things are in order to succeed in a given period, and there are moments where you need to capitalize on your internal discontent to push yourself out of a situation and towards another one.
For example if you are far from home and unable to work on your special interests you need to make use of being okay with that until that period passes, because if you are too caught up in chasing the sun you will break down.
On the other hand if you are too comfortable, you are living in consumption and hubris you need to harvest that never ending sense of urgency in achievement to push you out of the perilous rut.
TLDR: Its a matter of consciously choosing whether to be happy or unhappy when it serves your greater purpose.
loomhigh
2023-06-16 12:57:08 +0000 UTC
What are the odds the older gay man was trying to root Jordan?
Liam
2023-06-16 12:30:12 +0000 UTC
im nearly 30 recently finished uni and my body feels like its failing. partied too hard, didnt pull my shit together and didnt travel and experience enough really made me develop some kind of hypochondriac (a form of anxiety). so eveytime i have a hiccup i think im gonna die or have some chronic illness
Burcey B
2023-06-16 11:51:01 +0000 UTC
In five years, I hope to be in a better financial position by way of a job that allows me to be fluid with what needs to be done, home life doesn't need to change much besides supporting my kids needs and growth. It's harder to think about myself when there's a whole family to support.
Alex Isaac
2023-06-16 10:28:53 +0000 UTC
Nice pod. Mis’ mention of “follow your passion” is what I needed to hear
nhpK
2023-06-16 10:03:40 +0000 UTC
This is a very relatable pod. It is like another chapter, I have grey hair now, work does feel like you're near the top and to go further means a change. It's not bad, just different.