204.5 More on The Thomas Crown Affair
Added 2024-12-17 08:00:06 +0000 UTCOn this episode of the Aftershow, Gala brings you even more content from last week's episode. Join her as the guys discuss Steve McQueen's appeal to men, the on-screen relationship between Colleen Dewhurst and Tom Skerritt, and a little bit more about Marlowe.
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Watched Santa Claus is Coming To Town with the kids, expected it to be passably entertaining but we ended up being completely enthralled. They don’t make them like they used to. Santa Begins!
Jonny Blaze
2024-12-19 18:15:40 +0000 UTCA new Blu of LIFEGUARD is up for pre-order from Fun City Editions!
Marc Heuck
2024-12-18 23:43:54 +0000 UTCMy absolute favorite “semi-auto” work by a director is A BORROWED LIFE by Wu Nien-jen. https://boxd.it/54XA Pretty hard to track down, but I understand there’s an HD restoration floating out there now…but I think it may lack English subtitles. What to say about this one. Well, it’s pretty dense, but never boring. It’s slow, but always involving. My family is from Taiwan, and having a deeper understanding of the complexities of Taiwan’s history really helps to get into the film. Perhaps the most notable thing about it from an American perspective is that it was in Scorsese’s top 10 of the 1990s when he did that episode with Ebert way back when. That’s how I first heard about it. A friend of mine, a wonderful filmmaker named Patrick Wang, turned me onto it. He described it as one of those movies where you can remember every single frame, and he wasn’t kidding. There’s so much to get into about this one. But in short, it most provokes me as a portrait of how difficult it is to really know someone, especially a parent, and how challenging it is to navigate generation gaps. I’ll leave two additional reading links below for the initiated. https://watch.grasshopperfilm.com/transmissions/single-take-patrick-wang-on-a-borrowed-life https://www.filmlinc.org/films/a-borrowed-life/ This final sentence from Andrew‘s capsule description/review still devastates me. “Few films have so vividly re-created the sensation of having known another human being for one’s entire life, while simultaneously evoking the suspicion that all along one has loved a stranger.” —Andrew Chan, Film Comment (Nov/Dec 2012)
David Chien
2024-12-18 19:53:11 +0000 UTCBill Conti’s theme for the 1999 version of THOMAS CROWN slapped then and it slaps now. Unusually playful and complex for this kind of a studio release, but then again I guess we really didn’t know how good we had it in 1999. It’s an interesting compliment to the Legrand score of the original, and it really puts McTiernan‘s film into this Sydney Pollack arena of witty, intelligent adult fair. I may be mistaken, but I recall McTiernan referring to this film as his favorite work. Listen to Conti cooking: https://youtu.be/CpoHPiET2LQ?feature=shared
David Chien
2024-12-18 19:42:56 +0000 UTCFinally saw Lifeguard tonight. A Roger fave. Would make a cool episode.
Paul Rowlands
2024-12-18 14:24:10 +0000 UTCA late associate of mine (sadly passed in her 20s) went to school with Shia LeBeouf and claimed he could not read nor write. I couldn't help but think of that personal anecdote when the McQueen literacy theory was brought up!
David Chien
2024-12-18 06:14:02 +0000 UTCThe way Steve and Sharon hug and peck when they meet outside the Playboy Mansion says a lot about their attraction to one another but not many women are turning down 1969 Steve McQueen so props to Sharon! Maybe she heard about how he walks out on pool games when losing! Everyone knows Rick won that third game!
The Lake Show
2024-12-18 03:12:59 +0000 UTCWell, from the perspective of a womanin her mid 20s...McQueen was already married, known to be sleeping around, and pushing 40. Maybe it just wasn't her bag.
Mark Ibarra
2024-12-18 01:40:00 +0000 UTCI have no problem with remaking Dune, but where David Lynch's flawed but ambitious version diverged significantly from the original text (out of necessity and studio mandate,) Villanueve's version promised to hew closer and more reverential to the original book. I can see how someone might consider that reductive and superfluous.
Mark Ibarra
2024-12-18 01:26:08 +0000 UTCFosse, Chayefsky, and also playwright Herb Gardner were best friends! In the FX series FOSSE/VERDON they replace Herb with Neil Simon which I think is BS.
The Lake Show
2024-12-17 21:33:54 +0000 UTCAlso regarding SHAMPOO - was Warren Beatty’s character more like Jay Sebring or Jon Peters? Even if that role is autobiographical, those two hollywood hairdressers must have been an inspiration.
The Lake Show
2024-12-17 20:22:12 +0000 UTCConnie Stevens: Sharon (Tate) absolutely has a type. Cute, short, talented guys who look like 12 year old boys. Steve McQueen: Yeah… I never stood a chance. We all what film this is from. In my opinion, Sharon’s “type” was developed out of rebellion from her father Colonel Paul Tate’s strict military upbringing. If your choices are Steve McQueen, Jay Sebring, or Roman Polanski, you have to think just about every woman and their fathers are choosing Steve McQueen. That must have been some great acid!
The Lake Show
2024-12-17 20:16:51 +0000 UTCI love All That Jazz and the conversation about it here so much. I think Quentin’s on to something that a hallucinated TV special is the ideal way to go out, though a LOST-finale style reunion with everyone I knew would be a close second. -JR
Josh Richmond
2024-12-17 18:49:02 +0000 UTCThat was before he watched the original.
David Rozycki
2024-12-17 18:20:57 +0000 UTCYeah it’s for sure the Christmas tree
Chris Bumbray
2024-12-17 18:01:16 +0000 UTCLoved the discussion, especially the part around All That Jazz. Fosse is such a fascinating character. So crazy that Ann Reinking was actually playing herself. And she had to audition for the role! I thought she was spectacular. There is a wonderful book, Fosse, that digs deep Into his life and the making of this, and his back and forth about how nice or mean or just how much like himself he should make the character of Joe in All That Jazz. Seems like he truly didn’t want to hurt anyone but had interesting ideas about how that intent should be borne out. I love that he was best friends with Paddy Chayefsky.
Meghann Salus
2024-12-17 16:44:02 +0000 UTCThe Christmas Tree was mentioned before too
Jeremy Mullins
2024-12-17 14:21:21 +0000 UTCHuman beings are wonderful bunches of contradictions.
Jeremy Mullins
2024-12-17 14:19:38 +0000 UTCBrilliant stuff once again!!!
Orson Wellies
2024-12-17 13:45:36 +0000 UTCAnother fine After Show! Especially enjoyed the convo that sprung out of the submitted question. Movies concerning obsessions could easily be its own dedicated episode. Here's the Letterboxd list for all the movies mentioned in this installment! Enjoy. https://letterboxd.com/vidiot1987/list/after-show-26-more-on-the-thomas-crown-affair/
Mike Kenny
2024-12-17 13:33:23 +0000 UTCWhat I find interesting about the remaking of the Thomas crown affair is it follows John Huston’s logic. If you are going to remake a movie remake a bad one. Just look at how many times Maltese falcon was remake until John Huston get it “right” in 1941 with bogart.
John Imperio
2024-12-17 12:50:44 +0000 UTCYou’re right! He did! Not sure if it’s fair to say he doesn’t like something because it’s popular, but it seems a little strange.
James
2024-12-17 11:18:18 +0000 UTCAlso didn’t Quentin say he watched the remake of the Thomas crown affair (1999) starring Pierce Bronsnan and liked it?
John Imperio
2024-12-17 10:53:08 +0000 UTCAwesome After show! And I agree with everyone on those guesses! Those have to be right! I remember watching Santa Claus is Coming To Town on TV as a kid.
Darren Franz
2024-12-17 10:05:41 +0000 UTCIt’s interesting that Tarantino has mentioned not wanting to watch the recent Dune and Shogun adaptations because he has already seen that story, yet they are covering the Big Sleep. There’s even a mention of his reasoning in that it’s a retelling of the book by Raymond Chandler, which is the same reason Dennis Villenueve gave as a retort to Tarantino.
James
2024-12-17 09:40:25 +0000 UTCThose are my guesses
Jono
2024-12-17 09:10:22 +0000 UTCHey Gala, is stop motion considered animated? And is 50 minutes considered a "feature"?
Jono
2024-12-17 09:06:30 +0000 UTCGala, are the films The Christmas Tree and the 1970 Santa Claus is Coming to Town tv special?
Paul Rowlands
2024-12-17 09:01:33 +0000 UTCExactly.
Paul Rowlands
2024-12-17 09:00:52 +0000 UTCYep, has to be. William Holden was in Casino Royale. And the Christmas theme has to be a dead giveaway.
Jono
2024-12-17 08:59:51 +0000 UTCIs the first film The Christmas Tree by Terence Young?
Paul Rowlands
2024-12-17 08:47:47 +0000 UTCGreat chat. Loved that final question!
Paul Rowlands
2024-12-17 08:45:52 +0000 UTC
