Little Update + Vlad's Introduction

YES, YES YES YES YES YES YES YES.....YEEES

FurryestX

I understand why you guys are restarting, but with all of the progress and time spent with the old one it does indeed hurt a bit to know its just going to stop and feel like a waste of money

xiBlueJayix

As long as we still get thicc krystal.

Hanako

reboot and no cheeks? Fug it I'm out fam

Leon Belmont

We don't really have anything ready yet beyond some squares interacting with squares. Combat will be a long way off. The tech demo which will be... soon-ish, will mostly just show off some of the new animation/art quality, as well as some platforming,

VladimirRomanov

can you make mind control like krystal vG? when she drank juice

victordragon

Heya Vlad, I don't think I say this for myself but I think we are all wondering when can we expect an update of the game? I know that this is a big step for you guys but I think it would be nice to know if you have a sort of a base game out already, even if it doesn't show much, we as patrons can understand better of what you are trying to produce. I used to be a $10 patron myself during the early stages of the game but after many delays, I started to be more skeptical about the game and stopped continuing my support for it. After your introduction, I could sense that you guys are beginning to have more of a direction and the development of the game, as you have explained, sounds very interesting! I know you guys have done streams of animations and such, especially the gif that you posted looks quite wonderful but all this still does not really show what you are trying to show in terms of the game. Character models and animations are awesome in showing progress but gameplay by the bloodbounds or so forth would be nice to give us patrons a clearer picture. I am looking forward to supporting you guys again! The new direction of the game sounds awesome but it would be nice to see what we are exactly supporting for. Hopefully, you will reply to this message, it would be great! :3 :D

when will the new stream be ???

Martin

shame the whole thing had to be restarted but this looks good hopefully you guys can make some significant progress to show soon what can be done on the new stuff

Ulthar

The game was **always** intended to be playable without any NSFW content, to avoid all of it if you so choose, and to have fun content/combat. This was intended since the day the project started. The idea that we're some how sacrificing NSFW content to make the game fun is nonsensical. You can have porn, AND a fun game. Regarding the poll, we listen to everyone. Patrons or not. However Patrons have the benefit of having first access to everything. If you simply want more rewards for helping us develop a game, then we have considered having unique ones for loyal patrons. The game is not being restructured, it is being organized in a way that allows for far more content and higher quality of content. Simple as that.

VladimirRomanov

I see a lot of improvements on the model from the original art! I'm happy with the edits you've done. I'd like a little more back on the default Krystal and maybe a less bushy tail but, still... this looks damn well done! Grats.

Valaska

To be honest, I'm not interested in "new" projects. I just have to wait and see.In fact, for many artists, a complete work seems to be more important, if you are going to start again, I suggest you wait until you have the first safe and stable experience version to discuss more convincing.

THE_VEZ

I think the decision to restart the game makes a lot of sense. The original wasn't worth the effort of saving, especially with the new "staff(?)" My concern is that you'll become too ambitious and slowly work on 30 different parts of the game rather than finishing a few at a time. This is particularly relevant to open world games, where building a large, empty world and filling all of it in very slowly rather than focusing on areas (and maybe expanding the game by sections) can spread the effort you put into it out and make the game's expansion seem slower (losing you backers). I'm not about to tell you how to do something you have far more experience in than I, but I've seen that happen before to Something Unlimited and other projects. People get bored with progress spread over the whole game, regardless of how much effort you actually put in. I hope you can pull through and I'll definitely consider raising my backing when finances allow. Please plan the game very carefully. The next few updates will either win you back fans or lose the hesitant backing most of the people here have expressed.

Waldo

So I want to make a second post because after checking the discord more carefully (there are no less than 27 channels, many of which have nondescript titles, some of which are clearly relevant and others with staff posts that are easily overlooked). I was reading it before this, but due to the bloat I didn't consider it worth my time to dig through all the user comments and try to stay up to date. To all the users telling those of us with other things to do to obsessively check the discord sorry, but your argument has no merit. After reading the FAQ and digging through these comments my mind isn't really changed. The FAQ describes the toggle options but doesn't go into detail. This post makes it clear that the game is being structured with more SFW content in mind, whether this be combat, puzzles, platforming, or whatever. But I honestly don't want any of that, and I don't think most of the original backers were asking for it either. We wanted sex with a side of game, not the reverse. Maybe this is a miscommunication on the part of Vlad or a misinterpretation on my part, but I will let him clarify it himself. I have no reason to trust the words of a someone who isn't developing the game based off hearsay. I also noticed a few other details that bothered me. There has been a lot of hubbub about the change in appearance. Personally, I'm pretty flexible on this front (though I agree the new model seriously needs an update to the junk in her trunk). However, I noticed the polls to gather feedback on appearance were all posted in the public section of the forum. I'm sorry, but this is really disrespectful to the patrons throwing money at the game. I'm been a $5 backer since the project launched so I have a say in the game's direction, however insignificant, so this feels like a slap in the face. I was able to vote in the polls when they cropped up, but it was only through sheer luck that I found them since there was never even an announcement made. The people paying your bill need to come first no matter how little they directly engage with the project. Please fix this going forward, it's not a good look. I know this is coming off as really negative, but I've been generally positive about all the changes until now. I've been sold on the game since its inception despite the original sluggish pace thanks to the cobbled together coding. But a lot of what's now being said sounds like a change to game's structure, and not one for the better in my mind. I'd rather make a fuss in hopes that this reaches someone's ears rather than just pull my funding in silence.

TCoffin

Wow, that’s awesome, thanks for that introduction Vlad! The game direction sounds very interesting and am looking forward to become a Patreon again next month. Hope to see the latest update soon!

She got no ass :(

Deathshadow

First of all : welcome Vladimir! Obviously the final game can't be only a bigger version of the first one, and I am quite enthusiast when I read such new. Although I came (no pun) here for the NSFW, the already existent SFW part make sense. I believe strongly that SFW can include hot stuff that can greatly rise the tension to a NSFW scene. Whatever, I pledge for the team artistic point of view, I want to be surprised :)

Alex

looks like a lot of work, time and money was wasted when you want to make different model and the game, i see it as step back if not starting from a scratch, how much time will u need to catch up to today state of the game? also i think sfw is pretty much pointless if i want some sfw i can already buy some solid adventure type furry games like "foxtail" what insurance patrons have that you after few months wont start from scratch again if something go wrong? would preferred you using same content and just change engine if that would help fixing all bugs

Polandball

Do you plan to translate the game into other languages?

I like them both. The new one is a little closer to Dr.Comet's K, which is the perfect K.

HobbyBill

The problem is that because of patreons guidelines, they can't post a lot of stuff here (nudity, mentions of bestiality, rape, etc) so discord is way better to show and discuss freely

Mad_Shell

It is nice to hear again from you Vlad, and what you write sounds really good... well it sounds. I honestly want to become a patron again, because its Krystal in a new game. But i wont do that until i see something, sorry. There where many promises, many obstacles that are privat life (which i understand to some degree) and a lack of communication which is getting a little bit better lately. And no, i dont go to discord because i have this site. As Asion said, there are more to be found on discord; but why should i have to use a different place than the website where i pledge to get a sign of life or news, when the obviously important thing, money, is on patreon. This may sound arrogant, but why is it wrong to expect news here? Anyway, i can ensure you that you have my full pledge again if you deliver in the next to updates, but as for now, im still suspiscious, and maybe butt hurt. And believe me, i really hope that you guys will be succesful with the game, your lifes, everything, because you bring joy like Santa, but (spoiler) you are real!

Indiana Keks

Honestly you do what you want on the discord server. You can either just watch the updates and infos given by the devs, or you can also participate and discuss, with the community and even directly with the devs. Vlad is very available and you can even give suggestions for the game. Almost everybody is quite friendly, so don't hesitate to join the server :)

Mad_Shell

thank you for the explanation that part with the nsfw/sfw wasn't made entirely clear and probably should be to avoid many more flames from starting maybe rephrase it a bit. And honestly i feel most don't use discord because they don't want more bloatware or something idk. I myself find it difficult especially around thees kinda of games to join a new server i feel they invoke a certain kinda pack mentality with everyone being in a tight-knit group of people witch makes it almost inpossable to get to know anybody or have a meaningful conversation but that's just me! anyhow thanks for the clarification my guy.

Ktmax

First of all. The toggles are not gonna be so simple as sfw or nsfw. There would be that kind of toggle to of course, mostly for people who want to upload it to youtube or stream it if they want to do that, but there would be several other toggles for example extreme, hard and some more. Going on. The character's going to be heavily customizable in the future, like fur colorations, skins (musculature/textured), hairstyles, breast sizes, and tail styles will be customizable. And they are just what initially has been planted. So the butt optimization is a possibility for the future to. Thirdly, if any of you ever checked the old trello, which has been taken down for the sole purpose of reworking it for the new build and so that it could be more user friendly to. All thing like platformeing and combat and stuff WAS planned for a long time now. Even before the restart of the game. It was just that it never was mentioned in the previous build because the game was clearly no at the stage where it could include those stuff in itself. Lastly. I advise everyone to COME TO THE DISCORD. For god sake. They never gonna pay that much attention to patreon as to discord because it is not for the sake of communication with the community but to share information regarding the project. Thank you all.

As it was said a lot of times already, the game won't have SFW parts and NSFW parts separated, there will be plenty of porn, BUT if you want to hide the sex scenes you can toggle it, so no there won't be "SFW updates".

Mad_Shell

Going SFW is a risky move since most if not ALL of us are here for the NSFW stuff what happens when the sfw stuff is the main focus of an update? that's a whole update that most wont touch let alone give feed back on. Not saying it cant work but I've seen many projects crash and burn trying to juggle catering to both sides its not fun to watch .

Ktmax

Sorry, my father did not teach me gentleness in communication but taught me to speak face to face without hypocrisy but, I agree with you, I needed to be softer))

Albatros

Agree, Kinda kitten and not like the old fox warrior style....

i know im not an active patron but i dont care if the gameplay for a porn game is "fun" it can be rpg maker for all i care as long as the porn game is focused on porn,also the new model is nice but definitely preferred the old model

Gizmo

I've been monitoring your progress and I'm glad to say that you've earned my support back

MrBigglesworthz

Too bad, I liked how LOK looked before. Krystal was much prettier before.this new project seems to be a mix of things when she should focus on porn.

RagDoll

Apparently they made the new model based on the average tastes of the supporters. It seems most of us wanted a flat ass. Weird, right? My suspicion is that big butts are harder to animate.

HobbyBill

You spin me right round baby right round.... Also what happened to her ass? She's not as stacked as before. shame...

Icarus Media

How about this. Make another patreon that in order to access you must support both. This product would be a simple flash game with the current K model. For a few bucks a month you have access to a handful of scenes of K getting drilled by a lizard. Instant gratification for those of us (I have to assume most) who originally supported the project for the porn and don't want to do chores for lizards in between the action. I would pay for that. I am sure many more would as well.

HobbyBill

I was sort of thinking something similar in regards to the platforming. I would be like "oh, look. She's up there now. That's cool. *zips back up*."

HobbyBill

While I'm behind the project reboot this focus on making it into a hybrid SFW game is a massive put-off. I was attracted to the project as a porn game, and knowing resources are now being funneled into a part of the game I have no interest in is discouraging. This is even worse since it sounds like it'll be a platformer. Have you tried to jack off while playing Mario? It doesn't work, you can focus on one or the other, not both. If you won't be able to play the game one handed, don't bother. The thing is, this happened before with Breeding Season. The original concept was flawed and unfeasible, so it collapsed, but we got it reincarnated as Cloud Meadow. The developer could have done the sensible thing and create a similar game with a more reasonable scope and better management. Unfortunately, the game the emerged has the focus split between being a farm sim, a dungeon crawling RPG, and the game I actually want to play. I quickly grew disinterested and dropped my backing. Thing was, because of the level at which I backed Breeding Season the developer had offered to give it out to backers of the old project for free, but I would rather pay money to support a project I care about than waste my time playing a mess of a project that's trying to be a million things at once, even if that mess is free. There's been a lot of mixed reactions to the reboot, many of which I feel are unwarranted or which don't seem to grasp the reality of game design. However, this is a core shift in the product being developed. If this starts to turn into another Cloud Meadow I'm out.

TCoffin

I think this game was good because the story is built around the NSFW Content . if you toggle the NSFW then the story is not make any sense. But if the story is not refere to the NSFW content then why would you put it in the game ? I not saw any game that was good in this conception. I think what you want is a censor switch , like hide the nipples and other NSFW parts with some funny picture or blur it ......

hubartenoz

Absolutely baffled by the claim of an SFW version. Why? So we can boot it up at our desks at work during a break? Or maybe play it in the livingroom with our families who will be none the wiser? Let me.get out my megaphone so maybe they can hear us better. "Ahem. It's porn. None of us stumbled across this project by accident and said to ourselves 'what an intriguing looking action adventure game with great gameplay mechanics'. It is porn. We like the blue fox. We support the project to see the blue fox get it on with lizards. Start churning out the porn or risk losing supporters."

HobbyBill

Don't worry about kinks: from the faq on discord Q: What kind of fetishes can I expect? A: A lot. Standard sex which includes vaginal, oral, anal, handjobs, titjobs, etc. With nonstandard sex including lesbian, sexual acts with the various creatures of the world, nonconsensual upon losing battles, exhibitionism, humiliation, bdsm, tentacles, foot jobs, cum play, and much much more. If you can imagine it, it will likely be in, though we will **NOT** be adding scat, watersports, or guro.

Mad_Shell

exactly i liked this project because of the nsfw and couldnt care less about the sfw stuff(most likely because the gameplay is pretty boring) also heres hoping all the promised nsfw stuff will still be in the game(like breast sizes)

Gizmo

Also given that the team is restarting the project and creating design docs. Could we get a road map to get a general idea of what new content is planned? Something that will help at least give backers some visual idea on how you plan to proceed. Remember we are investors and as investors we do need to see more than just some art. With no working new demo, a road map would be a great way to showcase some upcoming features without outright spoiling or compromising elements you want to keep a surprise.

Draconis88

Never forgot Agony where the dev compromised and ruined the original priomise in order to sell on consoles. They betrayed their backers. They hyped the game as having no boundaries and on release we had a flawed game with censors all over. Not the same case here but just an example where attempting to cater to elements like sfw can lead to hurting the original. I found personally the original worked fine as was. I didn't play tje game for the thrilling pot quest or stick quest, i played it to see how many tasks i could have K fail and pay the price.

Draconis88

While I think Albatross could be a little less abrasive in his wording, I must admit I do share his worries a little bit. I have found that most NSFW games do tend to have either ‘the game’ bit or ‘the porn’ bit feel tacked on to the other. Some of these have definitely been good, eushully is a great example of a dev that does this kind of game, but the porn doesn’t really feel like it fits in to the gameplay loop. Anyways hope you guys make me eat my words.

Nification

I have a slight concern that it won't be as kinky as the original project. Some of my favorite factors wasn't that it was just a porn game that it was going to be a porn game that catered to many more rough kinks. The planned slave route, the conflict with Kantir or the desolation of K's self worth with the old hag failing to clean the pot. Are these more intense kinks still going to be provided in the new remake? I also loved tje the theme of sexual corruption and slutification and i hope in an effort to make things more sfw you won't compromise those nsfw factors. Please let me know and thanks! I was a blood hound in the past and i am hoping to support the project once more.

Draconis88

Absolutely Beautiful

StairCat

Looks good, glad you went with plantigrade in the end.

On the contrary, I don't believe that the market is saturated with good games. I think it is saturated with bad games. (We're also not selling it, so that is a moot point) I also fail to see your reasoning behind thinking we're some how ignoring our loyal fans. We're not removing anything that was ever planned. It's going to be a porn game with the ability to play without the porn. What is so complicated about that?

VladimirRomanov

P.S. - Old art is better.

Albatros

Another thing, do you think - how many people, besides users of NSFW sites, will need your game ??? 50 - 60 people ?? On the SFW niche, almost no one needs your game because the market is oversaturated. Who is more important - loyal fans or a few random onlookers ???

Albatros

It is an NSFW game with good game play and the ability to not see NSFW content via toggles. Future Fragments, for instance, is a game with porn, but also a fun game. They are not mutually exclusive.

VladimirRomanov

"Another thing we plan for the game is to have it be equal parts SFW and NSFW, with toggles that will allow you to have absolutely no NSFW content at all if you so choose. In order for this to work, we need to think very carefully about how we build the game, and we need to ensure that the game is FUN above all else." .........Do svidania. This is the first sign that the game will be "normal." This is no longer an NSFW game, even if there will be corresponding scenes in it, it is just a game with NSFW scenes. Different things.

Albatros