Broken Silicon 215 (Video): Nvidia Lovelace Wasted Ampere’s Success: Prices back to Normal?
Added 2023-07-24 19:04:43 +0000 UTCAn former GPU Source of MLID joins to look back at the rise and fall of GPU Pricing!
0:00 What “Fake MSRP” Actually Means
9:20 Ways Nvidia actually frustrates AIBs, and what their 2023 Strategy is…
25:15 What makes a GPU Successful? Can AMD take 50% GPU Market Share?
33:45 Do we have an RX 480 replacement by now?
44:54 Are Prices GOOD when you factor in CPU, SSD, and DRAM?
52:30 Introducing our Semi-Anonymous Guest and discussing Zen 4c
1:04:12 How Good were things before Ampere / RDNA 2 Launched?
1:14:02 GPU Return Rates and Nvidia's Ultimate Play w/ Ampere
1:31:51 What truly makes an MSRP “Fake”? Did Retailers milk consumers?
1:48:13 Should AMD have lied about MSRP w/ RDNA 2?
2:01:45 When was it clear shortages ended? Has the industry changed?
2:18:36 Is the current market actually better than it was even in 2018?
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https://www.techspot.com/review/2305-amd-radeon-rx-6600-xt/
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https://www.techpowerup.com/review/evga-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-xc-ultra/
Comments
That is a good point, which I also agree with. The market is certainly not brutalizing the consumer in any way; like it was in 2021. There is a lot of complaining going on, no doubt. Most of it not justified. As you and Dan discussed, most other major PC components (including DDR5) are quite down in price now. I would think the savvy shopper can make a good system now; as long as they are okay with going used on the GPU, or going with an RDNA 2 AMD GPU, instead of only considering Nvidia. You know for me, it doesn't bother me. Most of my Steam library is 2010-2019 games, and the latest newer release I have is Far Cry 6. With a Comet Lake i7, 2070 Super, 1TB PCIe 3.0 NVME and 32GB of DDR4, I can't really complain for what I do. I would never expect it to dominate newer titles. If I want to play higher end stuff, I think I need to plan for it and build up a better system. It is ridiculous when you see comments of people that have 5 year old CPU's getting pissed off about the new GPU's, and yet, they can't even recognize that upgrading some components outside the GPU is the logical thing to do. Either way, good stuff as always.
M.T.
2023-07-26 19:26:36 +0000 UTCAbsolutely - that is likely half of what's going on right now. But then I have to say - "Can people just admit buying a GPU isn't worth it RIGHT NOW for THEM?" Enough of the complaining - the market hasn't been this cheap for 5+ years, but that doesn't mean YOU have to buy into it. But I don't think we are being abused almost at all anymore...
Moore's Law Is Dead
2023-07-26 19:16:40 +0000 UTCI thought you had a fantastic guest Tom. It was a very fascinating discussion as well. I do wonder if we are not in a "chicken/egg" situation? Many people are so squeezed for money right now that buying a new GPU is a luxury. So, the supply is up, but given the demand, you would think prices would be even lower; at least, in my opinion. I completely agree that it is far better than 2021. Unfortunately, Nvidia is trying as hard as they can to make this inelastic, but the GPU market clearly is very elastic right now. AMD has some moves it can make; whether it makes them is anybody's guess. Thanks for the great content!
M.T.
2023-07-26 17:25:48 +0000 UTC
